Containing China

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: K1052
I don't find the information presented in your link distasteful, I find it to be a likely skewed presentation of the facts (hence my caution).

Based on the site that hosts it, right? Facts are just that, facts. They can't be skewed, except by omission. Truth, however, is something very different and very much in the eye of the beholder.

I also shouldn't have to explain the concept of slant it someone as clearly intelligent as you.

You'll find that not everyone is interested in pretending that they don't have a bent. I don't need someone to try and represent a point of view that he/she doesn't agree with, just to prove to me that they're somehow "balanced."

Most of the non MSM stuff I see is actually links from P&N (usually left leaning, though there are a few hardcore righties here).

Some of the information hosted at antiwar.com is from decidedly right sources. Pat Buchanan, Gordon Prather and Paul Craig Roberts being notables. Also antiwar is by no means the only source I have for news and commentary that I find interesting.

I have no link to provide, but when I see a site clearly heavily to one side or the other I think it is important to keep in mind that everything might not be exactly presented in the most objective of ways (even if portions of it are factually correct). More a disagreement with their conclusions drawn from the facts at hand.

I'm more than capable of being objective and drawing my own conclusions based on the data at hand as well as my experiences and "slant."

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Slowly but surely, the grand strategy of the Bush administration is being revealed. It is not aimed primarily at the defeat of global terrorism, the incapacitation of rogue states, or the spread of democracy in the Middle East. These may dominate the rhetorical arena and be the focus of immediate concern, but they do not govern key decisions regarding the allocation of long-term military resources. The truly commanding objective -- the underlying basis for budgets and troop deployments -- is the containment of China.

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Perpetual global dominance by pissing everyone off? :laugh: This sort of hair-brained thinking could only spew from the PNAC\think-tank crowd.

Edit: Link repaired

Absolute BS. The class Bush is in, rich north east capitalists, are toally in bed w/ china and have been since Bush Sr was ambassator- selling out the americas middle class enabling slave labor in china and fat bottom lines to thier portfolios. Same goes for thier immigration stance or anything else that provides cheap labor, disjointed labor and control of it and the means of production Best of both worlds.

If bush wanted to "deal" with china he could send them into stravation by cutting trade off since that's where half thier GDP comes from. Instead he does just the opposite kisses thier ass. MFN, GATT, WTO etc. dispite thier oppressive and murderous regime. Never forget his groveling to get our kidnaped pilots back.

Iraq (and all other deployments in a few other dozen countries ATM) is about one thing, A Eisenhower's Nightmare, military-industrial complex so politically and economically powerful that it has taken on a life of its own and everyone from journalists and especially NE rich capitalists has an investment in keeping the money flowing. What a better way than start a war with a third rate dictarotrship. Hell Clinton had three! War is a racket.

Just think about this if none of what i said makes sense. Has an aggressive posture caused Iran and NK to lay down or beef up? By the same token what do you think China is doing? How can that be good for us?

 

[Chinadefender]

Zebo, a funny guy

I guess that you are below 30 and have not yet started your own career, right?

 

[Zebo]

With a name like china defender I know were your loyalty lies so it will be very difficult to take you seriously. Anything to add to this thread?

 

[Chinadefender]

Nothing special.

God heard your voice.

All Americans go to the congress and ask to cut off trade relations with China.

Just start it today.

 

[Zebo]

Congress? Too much money being made as they cut thier own damn throats. Maybe China will take them once we figure them out. Or maybe they are trying to change us into China (patriot act, taking guns, militaristic police forces etc) so we can't string them up.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Absolute BS.

You may have steel-balls when it comes to overclocking, but when subject is politics, you're lacking.

As I mentioned, this has a lot less to do with Bush than it does with the people he listens to.

 

[piasabird]

The concept of containing China is a bit of a joke at this point.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: piasabird
The concept of containing China is a bit of a joke at this point.

That won't stop the fed from trying, all the while wasting billions of dollars. Our government (republican OR democrat) hasn't indicated that it can be either smart or prudent.

 

[Moonbeam]

If China does to us what we have done to Iraq, where will the injustice lie?

And besides, humanity is deeply infected with self hate and on the road to extinction. Does anybody really care exactly how it plays out?