I'd say that another thing that would make me approve of Bush more is if he said something like 'All Liberals are Morons' or something to that effect. It's certainly not something that I would agree with, but I believe that the fallout of that statement on this forum will lead to months of hilarity from some of the sheep on 'my' side.
Hayabusa Rider
Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
- Jan 26, 2000
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He can become something he is not. Since that is impossible, then there is nothing he can do, because it is beyond his nature.
In essence, he has demonstrated to my satisfaction that there is nothing within his character that would allow him to do what he should have to begin with. Professionally, he is beyond redemption.
In essence, he has demonstrated to my satisfaction that there is nothing within his character that would allow him to do what he should have to begin with. Professionally, he is beyond redemption.
I don't know how much of this is true but if you ask me the local government is what filed katrina.
"Shedding a little light on the situation in Louisiana"
"On Friday night, August 26, 2005 before the Hurricane hit, Max Mayfield of
the National Hurricane Center took the unprecedented action of calling
Mayor
Nagin of New Orleans and Louisiana Governor Blanco personally to plead with
them to begin MANDATORY evacuation of New Orleans and they said they'd take
it under consideration. This was after the NOAA buoy 240 miles south had
recorded 68' waves before it was destroyed.
President Bush spent Friday afternoon and evening in meetings with his
advisors and administrators drafting all of the paperwork required for a
state to request federal assistance (and not be in violation of the Posse
Comitatus Act or having to enact the Insurgency Act).
Just before midnight Friday evening the President called Governor Blanco
and pleaded with her to sign the request papers so the federal government
and the military could legally begin mobilization and call up. He was told
that they didn't think it necessary for the federal government to be
involved yet.
After the President's final call to the governor she held meetings with
her
staff to discuss the political ramifications of bringing federal forces. It
was decided that if they allowed federal assistance it would make it look
as
if they had failed so it was agreed upon that the feds would not be invited
in.
Saturday, August 27, before the Hurricane hit, the President again called
Blanco and Nagin requesting they please sign the papers requesting federal
assistance, that they declare the state an emergency area, and begin
mandatory evacuation.
After a personal plea from the President, Mayor Nagin agreed to order an
evacuation, but it would not be a full mandatory evacuation, and the
governor still refused to sign the papers requesting and authorizing
federal
action. In frustration the President declared the area a national disaster
area before the state of Louisiana did so he could legally begin some
advanced preparations.
Rumor has it that the President's legal advisers were looking into the
ramifications of using the Insurgency Act to bypass the Constitutional
requirement that a state request federal aid before the federal government
can move into state with troops - but that had not been done since 1906 and
the Constitutionality of it was called into question to use before the
disaster.
Throw in that over half the federal aid of the past decade to New Orleans
for levee construction, maintenance, and repair was diverted to fund a
marina and support the gambling ships. Toss in the investigation that will
look into why the emergency preparedness plan submitted to the federal
government for funding and published on the city's website was never
implemented and in fact may have been bogus for the purpose of gaining
additional federal funding. As we now learn that the organizations
identified in the plan were never contacted or coordinating into any
planning, though the document implies that they were.
The suffering people of New Orleans need to be asking some hard questions
as do we all, but they better start with why Governor Blanco refused to
even
sign the multi-state mutual aid pack activation documents until Wednesday,
August 31, which further delayed the legal deployment of National Guard
from
adjoining states. Or maybe ask why Mayor Nagin keeps harping that the
President should have commandeered 500 Greyhound buses to help him when
according to his own emergency plan and documents he claimed to have over
500 busses at his disposal to use between the local school buses and the
city transportation buses - but he never raised a finger to prepare them or
activate them.
This is a sad time for all of us to see that a major city has all but been
destroyed and thousands of people have died with hundreds of thousands more
suffering, but it's certainly not a time for people to be pointing fingers
and trying to find a bigger dog to blame for local corruption and
incompetence. Pray to God for the survivors that they can start their lives
anew as fast as possible and we learn from all the mistakes to avoid them
in
the future."
umbrella39
Lifer
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1. Push for an uber aggressive training of Iraq's police, their training thus far from all accounts is sorely lacking
2. Withdrawn a large portion of our troops
3. Stop with the tax cuts already
4. Divert the money earmarked for Iraq to homeland security and first responders
5. Give up on personal savings accounts, there is not nearly enough support for it so quit wasting our time and money trying
Just to name a few things
2. Withdrawn a large portion of our troops
3. Stop with the tax cuts already
4. Divert the money earmarked for Iraq to homeland security and first responders
5. Give up on personal savings accounts, there is not nearly enough support for it so quit wasting our time and money trying
Just to name a few things
Pliablemoose
Lifer
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1 Secure the borders, I'm having a hard time believing the sheer numbers of illegals in Texas alone.
2 Honestly, Iraq & Afghanistan are going as well as can be expected, it's going to take a long time for them to turn around.
3 I really would like to see him back away form the religeous right, yeah they elected him, but he needs to grow the fvck up & kick them to the street
4 I'd like to see private savings accounts, funny how when Clinton suggested it, everyone was supportive of it, now that the Republicans are behind it, it's evil & unworkable.
5 Raise taxes, do away with the Dept of Education, start an agressive program of policing Medicaid/Medicare abuse by patients, if I see another dumbass abusing the ER because they can't be bothered to find a physician it's too soon (yeah that's a personal one)...
2 Honestly, Iraq & Afghanistan are going as well as can be expected, it's going to take a long time for them to turn around.
3 I really would like to see him back away form the religeous right, yeah they elected him, but he needs to grow the fvck up & kick them to the street
4 I'd like to see private savings accounts, funny how when Clinton suggested it, everyone was supportive of it, now that the Republicans are behind it, it's evil & unworkable.
5 Raise taxes, do away with the Dept of Education, start an agressive program of policing Medicaid/Medicare abuse by patients, if I see another dumbass abusing the ER because they can't be bothered to find a physician it's too soon (yeah that's a personal one)...
GroundedSailor
Platinum Member
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Serving Osama Bin-Laden's head to the American people in the traditioanl manner; On a Silver plater.
Cerb
Elite Member
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1. Get a real plan to get out of Iraq.
2. Admit it was deception to get there in the first place.
3. At least attempt some kind of cleanup.
4. Admit that the War on Terror and all the extra Homeland security crap added was useless, and get rid of it.
5. Push for the repeal of the Patriot Act.
6. Remove defense offer to Taiwan.
7. Get talks going with China about the future use of energy.
8. Renounce his God, because it's obviously not one anyone with half a mind wants to deal with.
...or just wait a few years, because none of it will happen.
to Condor.
2. Admit it was deception to get there in the first place.
3. At least attempt some kind of cleanup.
4. Admit that the War on Terror and all the extra Homeland security crap added was useless, and get rid of it.
5. Push for the repeal of the Patriot Act.
6. Remove defense offer to Taiwan.
7. Get talks going with China about the future use of energy.
8. Renounce his God, because it's obviously not one anyone with half a mind wants to deal with.
...or just wait a few years, because none of it will happen.
to Condor.
Distance himself from the religious right.
Support the Constitution, and its original intent.
Cease American imperialism.
Support anyone other than corporations or the rich.
Distance himself from PNAC.
Learn proper use of the language (I'm not joking or insulting, his abhorrent linguistic endeavors are a shame upon this nation).
Quit lying to the people.
Become fiscally responsible.
Apologize to the world for completely disregarding everyone except his own little clique.
Support the Constitution, and its original intent.
Cease American imperialism.
Support anyone other than corporations or the rich.
Distance himself from PNAC.
Learn proper use of the language (I'm not joking or insulting, his abhorrent linguistic endeavors are a shame upon this nation).
Quit lying to the people.
Become fiscally responsible.
Apologize to the world for completely disregarding everyone except his own little clique.
- Sep 21, 2001
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Huh. For those of you who said take a little responsibility - Bush Takes Responsibility for Blunders (Katrina news)
My respect for him went up some after that, although it wasn't the strongest statement of taking responsibility I've ever heard, from him it's earth shattering
Withholding judgment based on his qualified statement and the fact the WH staff are pointing fingers at state/local, thereby lessening that "responsibility" of the feds
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