Constitutional? Louisiana about to pass law requiring 10 Commandments be displayed in public schools

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kage69

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Millions of tax payer dollars will be wasted fighting this. How stupid.


That's what all this nonsense amounts to: holy rollers burning tax payer money for public virtue signalling, grabbing that limelight for future election cycles. Politicians and judges alike are doing it now.

It's stunning how much contempt these people have for freedom and liberty. Christofascists demanding other Americans submit to their government approved religion, exactly the kind of European bullshit the founders of this county explicitly rejected. If this was the 18th century we'd have magats dangling from gallows.
 
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kage69

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The Goatherders Guide to The Galaxy


You win the internet today! 🏆

Thanks, but I can't take credit for it. Forget where I saw it, reddit or twitter I'm thinking, but yeah, one of those 'oh that's perfect ' terms for sure.
 
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Moonbeam

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Look on the bright side. Imagine what will happen to the Louisiana Republican Party if the children there were somehow persuaded by the Ten Commandments to become real Christians.
 
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Moonbeam

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He really nails it in this video, IMO.
What it tells me with his suspicion that it’s man that creates many Gods into whose mouths we place word that are projections of our inner moral state is that in the time since the original Ten Commandments were set in stone, God has undergone a profound and positive evolution.
 

trenchfoot

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Look on the bright side. Imagine what will happen to the Louisiana Republican Party if the children there were somehow persuaded by the Ten Commandments to become real Christians.

Given how racism and bigotry seems to be hard baked into the culture of that so-called "conservative" party of theirs, having religion mixed into the aforementioned anti-Christian anti-10 Commandments behavior of theirs is truly making a mockery of the religion they profess to live their lives by. It seems being a fascist racist Christian is not a conflict of beliefs in some parts of the country, yet this is the actual cloistered culture that gets passed down to the children in parts of that state, thus perpetuating this myth of white superiority above all others. Some folks need to cling to that ages old contrived fairy tale out of fear of the unknown, the unfamiliar and the changes that are inescapably occurring around the world and that's partly due to those folks isolating themselves for the false sense of security it brings. The more things change around them the more they want to hide from it all.

This is where the defensive barrier of "traditions" rears its ugly head in opposition to change that can be essential for the survival of our nation. It seems that conservative values are inextricably joined at the hip with having an anachronistic state of mind, where many values and traditions of the past are incompatibly insoluble with the present, therefore the whole nation needs to be dragged back and kept in the distant past to satisfy and allay the fears of these "traditionalist isolationists" who demand and engineer their desires into law, especially now with a conservative supermajority in the SCOTUS that are favorable to such beliefs of which they will gladly legislate from the bench into the laws of the land.
 
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Moonbeam

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Given how racism and bigotry seems to be hard baked into the culture of that so-called "conservative" party of theirs, having religion mixed into the aforementioned anti-Christian anti-10 Commandments behavior of theirs is truly making a mockery of the religion they profess to live their lives by. It seems being a fascist racist Christian is not a conflict of beliefs in some parts of the country, yet this is the actual cloistered culture that gets passed down to the children in parts of that state, thus perpetuating this myth of white superiority above all others. Some folks need to cling to that ages old contrived fairy tale out of fear of the unknown, the unfamiliar and the changes that are inescapably occurring around the world and that's partly due to those folks isolating themselves for the false sense of security it brings. The more things change around them the more they want to hide from it all.

This is where the defensive barrier of "traditions" rears its ugly head in opposition to change that can be essential for the survival of our nation. It seems that conservative values are inextricably joined at the hip with having an anachronistic state of mind, where many values and traditions of the past are incompatibly insoluble with the present, therefore the whole nation needs to be dragged back and kept in the distant past to satisfy and allay the fears of these "traditionalist isolationists" who demand and engineer their desires into law, especially now with a conservative supermajority in the SCOTUS that are favorable to such beliefs of which they will gladly legislate from the bench into the laws of the land.
That’s it in the nut shell. I would only add that in my opinion the reason conservatives fear change is because their innate curiosity and love for the development of capacity was destroyed by pressure to be normal, not stand out, and conform. Self haters do what they can to keep everybody down so they 'themselves' don’t stand out as failures? And of course manipulative people love stupid marks.

Edit: added 'themselves'
 
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ch33zw1z

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What it tells me with his suspicion that it’s man that creates many Gods into whose mouths we place word that are projections of our inner moral state is that in the time since the original Ten Commandments were set in stone, God has undergone a profound and positive evolution.

I guess, except God(s) would actually have to exist for that to happen. I think what you’re trying to say here is that humanity has progressed and perceived the physical world around us differently, and in turn our reliance on stories made up thousands of years ago has diminished. In this, I can agree
 

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I guess, except God(s) would actually have to exist for that to happen. I think what you’re trying to say here is that humanity has progressed and perceived the physical world around us differently, and in turn our reliance on stories made up thousands of years ago has diminished. In this, I can agree
Pretty much. What I am saying on the question of gods is that if we created them or they created us is not a real issue. What matters I think is that consciousness is a mirror state like saying you are what you eat. The question then becomes, is there a state of conscious awareness in which the experience of a perceiver and the perceived dissolve.
 

Maxima1

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Sympathy to Islam? Do you remember the bullshit panic over Sharia Law?

I have no idea what that Maxima1 guy is on about. I certainly must have missed Trump's attempt to ban immigration from Christian countries. The US is not Iran or Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia, Muslims have negligible power in the country.

It was just a little aside on how liberals view both religions and sure a big part of it is about who has power/influence. Though one obvious thing is it's easier for Christians and Jews to ignore the bad parts, while it's harder for Muslims to do so with the Quran and hadith.
 

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It was just a little aside on how liberals view both religions and sure a big part of it is about who has power/influence. Though one obvious thing is it's easier for Christians and Jews to ignore the bad parts, while it's harder for Muslims to do so with the Quran and hadith.

Not sure I care that much how liberals view religions.

They seem to me to be divided on the issue, on the one hand there are the bourgeois atheists like Hitchens and Dawkins plus many of the libertarian variety of liberal, who seem to be obsessively, even mono-maniacally, hostile to all religions (and, in particular, seem to view religious belief or the lack of it as a matter of IQ, i.e. that atheists like themselves are just smarter than the believers, which seems a very apolitical and sociologically-illiterate attitude), and then there are the type who are quite pro-religion, albeit in a wishy-washy and inconsistent way, as part of their general fixation with 'diversity' and identity. I don't think I particularly agree with either type.
 
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How on Earth can these people be getting a public paycheck?

Louisiana AG asks court to dismiss lawsuit against new Ten Commandments law

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Louisiana's attorney general has announced that she is asking a federal court to dismiss a lawsuit that seeks to overturn the state's new law requiring the Ten Commandments to be displayed in every public school classroom by Jan.
 

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When asked what he would say to parents who are upset about the Ten Commandments being displayed in their child's classroom, the governor replied: “If those posters are in school and they (parents) find them so vulgar, just tell the child not to look at it.”
So now the solution for something "so vulgar" is to just tell the child not to look at it?