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IronWing

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Today I learned that the Ice Cube neutrino detector, buried in the Antarctic ice sheet is, in fact, an energy weapon of immense power. An accidental firing of the weapon triggered the 2011 Christchurch earthquake. I learned this while searching for information on my local school board candidates. :p

 

Indus

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Today I learned that the Ice Cube neutrino detector, buried in the Antarctic ice sheet is, in fact, an energy weapon of immense power. An accidental firing of the weapon triggered the 2011 Christchurch earthquake. I learned this while searching for information on my local school board candidates. :p


Is that a bit like that earthquake weapon in Under Siege 2??
 

Paratus

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Today I learned that the Ice Cube neutrino detector, buried in the Antarctic ice sheet is, in fact, an energy weapon of immense power. An accidental firing of the weapon triggered the 2011 Christchurch earthquake. I learned this while searching for information on my local school board candidates. :p

You don’t want to know what happens when Ice Cube gets combined with Ice-T
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Indus

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Snipped from the other thread:

Uh, I was misinformed:

More than 40 trillion gallons of water was dumped on the American Southeast by Hurricane Helene.

Trump is going to have throw out a shit ton of Bounty rolls to get that mopped up.

I've often wondered if the answer to fixing rising sea levels and massive ice melt due to climate change is building huge reservoirs to hold fresh water on land and channel it via aqueducts and canals to states/ places that need it.

Remember states were fighting over water from the Colorado river and generally there's not enough of it to go around.. except Helene dumped a shit ton of it into the wrong place.

What if we could harness it and store it.. massive undertaking but would totally be on the scale of "reusable rockets that land on tripod legs"
 

Muse

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Snipped from the other thread:

I've often wondered if the answer to fixing rising sea levels and massive ice melt due to climate change is building huge reservoirs to hold fresh water on land and channel it via aqueducts and canals to states/ places that need it.

Remember states were fighting over water from the Colorado river and generally there's not enough of it to go around.. except Helene dumped a shit ton of it into the wrong place.

What if we could harness it and store it.. massive undertaking but would totally be on the scale of "reusable rockets that land on tripod legs"
Trust me, aqueduct movement of water on that scale long distances is way unfeasible. If you want to gain insight and erudition on the resource water I refer you to a couple of good books on the subject:

Water 4.0: The Past, Present, and Future of the World's Most Vital Resource

The little-known story of the systems that bring us our drinking water, how they were developed, the problems they are facing, and how they will be reinvented

"Water 4.0" is a delightful, fascinating and ultimately very balanced treatment of humans and water: past, present, and future.


Cadillac Desert: The American West and Its Disappearing Water, Revised Edition

"The definitive work on the West's water crisis." --Newsweek
 
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Indus

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Trust me, aqueduct movement of water on that scale long distances is way unfeasible. If you want to gain insight and erudition on the resource water I refer you to a couple of good books on the subject:

Water 4.0: The Past, Present, and Future of the World's Most Vital Resource

Cadillac Desert: The American West and Its Disappearing Water, Revised Edition


Yeah maybe it's too hard to do but I do know NYC gets its water via aqueduct from the Catskills (125 miles away).

Infact currently the aqueduct is leaking so it's being repaired and we're getting our water from a further away source.

So it is possible on some scale.. maybe just not that big enough.. but hurricanes do hit Texas as well.. so maybe it's not just a pipe dream!
 

Muse

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Yeah maybe it's too hard to do but I do know NYC gets its water via aqueduct from the Catskills (125 miles away).

Infact currently the aqueduct is leaking so it's being repaired and we're getting our water from a further away source.

So it is possible on some scale.. maybe just not that big enough.. but hurricanes do hit Texas as well.. so maybe it's not just a pipe dream!
Well, there are pipes and there are pipes.

The amount of water needed by California is monstrously more than that needed by NYC due to the huge agriculture.
 
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BoomerD

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Yeah maybe it's too hard to do but I do know NYC gets its water via aqueduct from the Catskills (125 miles away).

Infact currently the aqueduct is leaking so it's being repaired and we're getting our water from a further away source.

So it is possible on some scale.. maybe just not that big enough.. but hurricanes do hit Texas as well.. so maybe it's not just a pipe dream!

San Francisco and most of the Bay area get their water from Hetch Hetchy reservoir in the CA foothills and is actually part of Yosemite National Park. The reservoir is about 170 miles east of SF...and is all gravity fed...no pumps.


I agree with Muse that trying to move enough water from the east to the west on a scale that would actually alleviate drought conditions would be nearly impossible.
 

pmv

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I mean, the whole (clearly political) concept of 'neurodivergence' seems ridiculously under-defined.

Who gets to be included in the "social model of disability"? Who gets to demand society accommodates their "difference" vs who is expected to adapt to society? Which conditions does it apply to, and who gets to decide who has those conditions? It's an extremely complex political/scientific question, yet that complexity is never acknowledged in the glib discussions of it I see in the media.

My suspicion is that it just ends up coming down to whether your particular condition happens to be shared by a lot of affluent white people and so has a powerful lobby behind it. E.g. autism - which has, on its team, the likes of Elon Musk, and any number of influential political and media figures who have children with that condition, so clearly autism has a lot of political clout.

Conversely, conditions that affect less powerful demographics, or which are just much, much rarer, don't have the same political power and get treated very differently.

Another question is whether it includes conditions that are dangerous to those with them? e.g. depression and anorexia and dementia? Or to others? e.g. psychopathy? Can the 'social model of disability' ever be applied to those?

Does it only include conditions someone is born with, or does it include conditions acquired from experiences? I see many promoters of 'neurodiversity' try to make that distinction, and hence exclude personality disorders, for example, effectively limiting it to autism and ADHD (with a perfunctory mention of Tourettes and dyslexia), but I don't get the logic behind that _at all_ given that formative childhood experiences are no more under someone's control than are genetics or embryonic development.

Then there are conditions that are so rare and poorly-understood that it seems nobody is entirely sure which symptoms are caused by it vs which are just your 'normal' psychology (which is pretty-much my situation). How do those fit in to the 'neurodivergence' model?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Snipped from the other thread:





I've often wondered if the answer to fixing rising sea levels and massive ice melt due to climate change is building huge reservoirs to hold fresh water on land and channel it via aqueducts and canals to states/ places that need it.

Remember states were fighting over water from the Colorado river and generally there's not enough of it to go around.. except Helene dumped a shit ton of it into the wrong place.

What if we could harness it and store it.. massive undertaking but would totally be on the scale of "reusable rockets that land on tripod legs"
We do that already, they're called lakes. Notoriously hard to refill them when Mother doesn't cooperate though.
 

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When it comes to water management, the Israelis (yeah yeah I know, but this ain't the thread for it) are at the forefront.

Today's CT is that you are witnessing the ultra wealthy and powerful version of accelerationism in action.
 
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Indus

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When it comes to water management, the Israelis (yeah yeah I know, but this ain't the thread for it) are at the forefront.

Today's CT is that you are witnessing the ultra wealthy and powerful version of accelerationism in action.

What's CT?
 

pmv

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Don't know where to post this, but it does involve a conspiracy theory, so maybe here?

Never heard of this guy or his crackpot theories till just now, but he really sounds like an Alex Jones tribute act (and seems to have ended up with much the same legal consequences). What in God's name causes people to start thinking like this?

 

Indus

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I mean, that's an ocean. You can't maintain a volume of water that large in any reasonable way, nor would it be necessary to do so.

If scientists are right.. the entire ice sheet in Antarctica will be sea water..

I know the Obama administration tried to put up sea walls but I think storing fresh water is a better idea.
 

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If scientists are right.. the entire ice sheet in Antarctica will be sea water..

I know the Obama administration tried to put up sea walls but I think storing fresh water is a better idea.
We could reset to a new 47 states - plus a new Great Inland Sea Mon-Dakota dug a few miles down, nothing would be lost. Although that would be quite the engineering project.

Edit: some approximate math - surface area for the 3 states is about 0.25% of the ocean surface area, so need this new sea to be dug ~400 feet deep for every 1 foot of sea-level equivalent water stored away.
 
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IronWing

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We could reset to a new 47 states - plus a new Great Inland Sea Mon-Dakota dug a few miles down, nothing would be lost. Although that would be quite the engineering project.

Edit: some approximate math - surface area for the 3 states is about 0.25% of the ocean surface area, so need this new sea to be dug ~400 feet deep for every 1 foot of sea-level equivalent water stored away.
The carbon emissions of the mining equipment would exacerbate global warming so we would have to dig deeper and faster to keep up with the sea level rise caused by the project.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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If scientists are right.. the entire ice sheet in Antarctica will be sea water..

I know the Obama administration tried to put up sea walls but I think storing fresh water is a better idea.
Technically the antarctic ice sheet is fresh water, 7.2 million cubic miles of it. The entire ocean is around 321M cubic miles total, so it'll increase the volume of the ocean by around 2.2%. Actual level increase will vary based on a lot of factors, but that alone is expected to increase global sea levels by 58 meters. Something around 25% of the global population lives below this level, so real estate is going to get exciting.
 

Indus

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Technically the antarctic ice sheet is fresh water, 7.2 million cubic miles of it. The entire ocean is around 321M cubic miles total, so it'll increase the volume of the ocean by around 2.2%. Actual level increase will vary based on a lot of factors, but that alone is expected to increase global sea levels by 58 meters. Something around 25% of the global population lives below this level, so real estate is going to get exciting.

58 meters???

I live 17 feet above current sea level.

FFS I think most of NYC is 12 feet above sea level.
 
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