Rant Conspiracy theories/ Random thoughts -- Post your whackiest beliefs in here that no one agrees with WITHOUT REGRETS!

[Pohemi]

Whoever got him killed is doing worse things than Epstein. He was just a scapegoat and maybe he pissed off one of the shadowy elites. Far, far worse goes on in the world.

If anyone had him killed, IMO it would have been to silence him.

 

[Zorba]

I'm not sure Bibi really cares that much about Israeli people if it means he gets to stay in power longer.


This was my take. Besides keeping his position, it'd entitle him (in his own mind) to level and bulldoze Gaza in order to expand Israel. He'd already been doing it bit by bit, neighborhood by neighborhood...he just got impatient and said bomb it all and drive them out or kill them.

Yup, he wants Lebensraum for Israel.

 

[nakedfrog]

My favorites are Kennedy assassination and moon landing. Oldies but goodies.

Just a point of clarification, that means you're on board with "we didn't actually land on the moon"?

 

[IronWing]

Not sure why people think they need 120/240 FPS when 60 is more than enough.

Given the very low bit rate of the optic nerve, 120/240 is audiophile-esque snake oil. The original IBM CGA graphics card from 1981 had almost twice the data throughput of the human optic nerve.

 

[Muse]

0 - 24 get an education (get charged up)
24 - 64 work 3 jobs trying to chase a dream of getting ahead (discharge)
64 - 74 retire, travel if you can (squeeze out the last bit)
74 - end up in a nursing home or with a home health aide (recycle)

something like this,

Birth, School, Work, Death:

 

[Muse]

Insider trading is a much bigger problem than they make out.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Given the very low bit rate of the optic nerve, 120/240 is audiophile-esque snake oil. The original IBM CGA graphics card from 1981 had almost twice the data throughput of the human optic nerve.

Idk about 240, but I can easily tell the difference between 60 and 120+ at 40yo.

 

[Muse]

Aliens exist...

Aliens are benign and seeded earth with...

Cocoa

Coffee

Sugar cane and beets

Marijuana

Psychedelic mushrooms

etc.

/joking

 

[Muse]

I said the matrix totally rules!

It does NOT rule my world!

 

[Shmee]

Just a point of clarification, that means you're on board with "we didn't actually land on the moon"?

I never said I necessary believed in these, just said they were my favorites.

 

[hal2kilo]

I'm not sure Bibi really cares that much about Israeli people if it means he gets to stay in power longer.


This was my take. Besides keeping his position, it'd entitle him (in his own mind) to level and bulldoze Gaza in order to expand Israel. He'd already been doing it bit by bit, neighborhood by neighborhood...he just got impatient and said bomb it all and drive them out or kill them.

He's barely in charge because he has to cater to the extreme right wing to stay in power. He and Trump are like 2 peas in a pod.

Benjamin Netanyahu is losing control

Benjamin Netanyahu is waging a war while struggling to avoid prison, salvage his legacy and keep his political partners happy.

www.politico.com

Biden better wake up soon.

 

[Muse]

I never said I necessary believed in these, just said they were my favorites.

I have never spent 20 seconds diving into any of the moon landing deniers' claims. What do you find interesting about that?

 

[nakedfrog]

I never said I necessary believed in these, just said they were my favorites.

That's a cagey answer, but that's why I was looking for clarification

 

[Muse]

Flight 93 was shot down. The "Let's roll" story was made up from whole cloth. Cell phones in 2001 didn't work well enough to allow continuous calls from a moving aircraft. Cell tower antennas are designed to cover horizontal ground, not the sky above.

If those calls didn't happen I'd think that would have come out. The dead's surviving families, etc. would have denied they talked to those on the plane. Calls WERE recorded. Do you have any corroborating information?

Cockpit recordings indicate the passengers on United Airlines Flight 93 teamed up to attack their hijackers, forcing down the plane near Shanksville, a township in southwestern Pennsylvania. But conspiracy theorists assert that Flight 93 was destroyed by a heat-seeking missile from an F-16 or a mysterious white plane.

We Debunked the 9/11 Myths About United Flight 93

United 93 crashed on September 11, 2001. Here, we cut through the conspiracy theories to find the truth.

www.popularmechanics.com

Here's a thread that was started at reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/ppkb4l

The USA shot down United 93​

"I don’t believe in too many conspiracy theories, but I believe this one with all my heart. By the time United 93 was hijacked, we already knew an attack was well underway. The story that the passengers overcame the hijackers was just a feel good cover story over the fact we had to shoot the plane down.

Edit: Well, you guys probably talked me out of this belief. I admit, I was under the assumption that the US military had more control of our airspace than they actually do. I’m frankly shocked that we don’t have planes loaded and ready to go at a moment’s notice. Compliancy is the worse enemy."

One of the remarks:

Aircraft shot down do not plow into the ground inverted and nearly nose down (as most witnesses reported} at over 535 MPH. An attack or fighter aircraft would have shot out the engines, preventing it from crashing that fast and literally disintegrating as it did. The hijackers would not have had the engine power for such an event. IIRC, the FDRs showed the throttles were fully forward.

Your belief is simply not true.

 

[Brainonska511]

If those calls didn't happen I'd think that would have come out. The dead's surviving families, etc. would have denied they talked to those on the plane. Do you have any corroborating information?

Cockpit recordings indicate the passengers on United Airlines Flight 93 teamed up to attack their hijackers, forcing down the plane near Shanksville, a township in southwestern Pennsylvania. But conspiracy theorists assert that Flight 93 was destroyed by a heat-seeking missile from an F-16 or a mysterious white plane.

We Debunked the 9/11 Myths About United Flight 93

United 93 crashed on September 11, 2001. Here, we cut through the conspiracy theories to find the truth.

www.popularmechanics.com

If I recall, most of the calls were actually made with airphones, not cell phones.

 

[woolfe9998]

I've looked closely at the evidence for a lot of conspiracy theories. Not as much today, but between 2000-2010 roughly I spent loads of time considering various theories. All came up lacking. One of the basic problems with any conspiracy theory, let alone the grand conspiracy theories many people attest to, is that it never really would make sense from a risk-benefit standpoint to undertake the conspiracy. It's not that people are incapable of engaging in grand deception (Trump!) or doing terribly violent things (9/11), it's that there's too much risk of being caught, particularly given that the larger the conspiracy, the more people must be involved and must keep quiet about it forever.

I mean, does anyone really think that Bush would plan 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq? All they had to do was lie about WMD's. They didn't need 9/11. But even if they did, any supposed benefit of such an invasion could never have been worth the risk.

Once an alleged conspiracy must necessarily involve people outside a small, core group of conspirators, like journalists, police or bystander eyewitnesses, the theory becomes markedly less plausible. That in fact is why these are extraordinary claims which require more than ordinary proof. Yet I've never seen one which offered even that.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I mean, does anyone really think that Bush would plan 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq? All they had to do was lie about WMD's. They didn't need 9/11. But even if they did, any supposed benefit of such an invasion could never have been worth the risk.

To add to this, historically terrorist false flag attacks serve the purpose of consolidating power, not projecting power.

 

[herm0016]

i believe that no single corner of our government is well organized, smart, or disciplined enough to cover up anything significant. a disappointing and concerning conspiracy theory that our government really is as dumb as it looks.

 

[brycejones]

pcgeek11 doesn't really fuck goats, he is a sheep man instead

 

[VRAMdemon]

Taylor Swift is a Pentagon asset ....

Taylor Swift targeted by Fox News in bizarre conspiracy t...

The news anchor shared footage from a 2019 cyber security conference to try and prove his theory was true.

www.newsweek.com

As revealed by this leaked weapons training video:

Hey Jesse Watters is just asking questions ...

The context here is that with Swift coming from pseudo-country roots and her keeping quiet about politics until 2018, the Trumpnutters had a fantasy that maybe she was their secret MAGA princess. Their hopes were dashed when it turned out she’s a decent human being who doesn’t approve of misogyny and LGBT rights being trampled. Hell hath no fury like a mediocre white man scorned by a successful woman.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

i believe that no single corner of our government is well organized, smart, or disciplined enough to cover up anything significant. a disappointing and concerning conspiracy theory that our government really is as dumb as it looks.

Now this is something we'll disagree on. I know that there are many, many deep, dark corners of the government that are exceedingly well organized and actively cover up a great many things. They aren't things that virtually anyone ever knows about though. These are things that individuals numbering in the dozens at most are aware of.

Many of the non-insane conspiracy theories (at home and abroad) are covers for these events, and nobody will ever know more than that.

 

[pmv]

I disagree with the idea that there's some clear distinction between the 'legitimate power' of experts and technocrats and 'illegitimate power' of despots and aristocrats. Both forms of power are equally prone to be abused. You can never fully trust the professional managerial class.

 

[IronWing]

i believe that no single corner of our government is well organized, smart, or disciplined enough to cover up anything significant. a disappointing and concerning conspiracy theory that our government really is as dumb as it looks.

Don't knock it. As one sage put it so eloquently, "Bureaucratic incompetence is the last bastion of freedom."

 

[pmv]

I have never spent 20 seconds diving into any of the moon landing deniers' claims. What do you find interesting about that?

I don't doubt the reality of the moon landings. But I remain suspicious about England's world cup victory three years earlier. I strongly suspect that famous footage was faked. It certainly seems far less plausible than people walking on the moon. I've seen England play.

 

[Indus]

Might not be a bad prediction that the US judicial system will let Trump off. He then wins the election plunging the US and the world into absolute chaos.

His bedrock of Evangelical scum support will want more steps back in time legislation.