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[nakedfrog]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1803235137708048546

Taking away all liberals guns using the FBI.

Oh, hey, it's another one of the Nazi's greatest hits!

 

[igor_kavinski]

So who's gonna be stocking up on guns/ammo now?

 

[darkswordsman17]

And people wonder why I'm a 2A proponent after everything that's happened.

That's certainly an interesting argument to make, when he's literally arguing to use the 2nd Amendment to take away your guns, but...ok...

And that's the problem with the 2nd Amendment (really its our entire government) is its been left open to interpretation and then we did fucking nothing to actually safeguard the stewards that interpret it. We let our systems rot. If you're using your guns, its already too late. But hey, have fun being left alive a bit longer, which is all that guns will do if they really do resort to you needing to use your guns. They won't save you, and it will give them even more reason to justify their actions. You'll be marked as the American Hamas.

 

[cytg111]

And people wonder why I'm a 2A proponent after everything that's happened.

I guess you should acquire them in a fashion that doesnt leave a paper trail though...

 

[cytg111]

That's certainly an interesting argument to make, when he's literally arguing to use the 2nd Amendment to take away your guns, but...ok...

And that's the problem with the 2nd Amendment (really its our entire government) is its been left open to interpretation and then we did fucking nothing to actually safeguard the stewards that interpret it. We let our systems rot. If you're using your guns, its already too late. But hey, have fun being left alive a bit longer, which is all that guns will do if they really do resort to you needing to use your guns. They won't save you, and it will give them even more reason to justify their actions. You'll be marked as the American Hamas.

That is a weird fatalistic nostra dumbass interpretation of all kinds of possibilities. Dont prepare for a potential cw cause you gonna lose anyway. Well fuck.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Dont prepare for a potential cw cause you gonna lose anyway. Well fuck.

If the military sides with Trump, then he's right. Just a matter of time until anyone unwilling to be a sheep ready for rape (financial, ethical, even literal) finds a bullet in their head.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

That's certainly an interesting argument to make, when he's literally arguing to use the 2nd Amendment to take away your guns, but...ok...

And that's the problem with the 2nd Amendment (really its our entire government) is its been left open to interpretation and then we did fucking nothing to actually safeguard the stewards that interpret it. We let our systems rot. If you're using your guns, its already too late. But hey, have fun being left alive a bit longer, which is all that guns will do if they really do resort to you needing to use your guns. They won't save you, and it will give them even more reason to justify their actions. You'll be marked as the American Hamas.

If you look through history, you'll find endless examples of people in power exerting themselves over people without power. Firearms give the individual power, even if it's a small amount. That small amount compounds quickly when they need to work together. Powerless people are still powerless in a group.

 

[cytg111]

If the military sides with Trump, then he's right. Just a matter of time until anyone unwilling to be a sheep ready for rape (financial, ethical, even literal) finds a bullet in their head.

Sure. Keyword here : "if".

I mean if everything gov just folds to Trump then yea, there wont be a cw. It's the situation where some entities fights back right?
I mean the scenario DS describes is basically lone-wolf against the world. And yea, abysmal odds. Agree.
There might be a period with anarchy before shit settles either way. Guns might be nice to have then too, even if you're not outright participating in a militia or whatever.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Maybe someone here has already mentioned this but Trump winning a second time AFTER his insurrection attempt would just show how widespread the mental health problem in the US is.

 

[igor_kavinski]

There might be a period with anarchy before shit settles either way. Guns might be nice to have then too, even if you're not outright participating in a militia or whatever.

Fair point. For self defense and basically trying to survive, yes. For resistance, it might be futile and may lead to nowhere other than a swift end.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Fair point. For self defense and basically trying to survive, yes. For resistance, it might be futile and may lead to nowhere other than a swift end.

Ask Polish and German's Jewish population in the late 30's and early 40's how they would feel about a futile resistance.

 

[igor_kavinski]

how they would feel about a futile resistance.

Had they been able to do much, it would still have been a massacre without external forces joining in the conflict. If Trump goes berserk, who's gonna invade the US to save the population at risk of persecution, especially if they go about the whole thing systematically, making sure that people are not able to launch a united offensive against them and stripping them of any advantage.

 

[iRONic]

So who's gonna be stocking up on guns/ammo now?

We don’t “stock up” on ammunition. Our shotgun & Glock rounds are simply replaced after each range visit. SO stays sharp with her weapons, gives us a reason to clean em, keeps our powder dry (to quote a phrase) and the ammunition supply current.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Had they been able to do much, it would still have been a massacre without external forces joining in the conflict. If Trump goes berserk, who's gonna invade the US to save the population at risk of persecution, especially if they go about the whole thing systematically, making sure that people are not able to launch a united offensive against them and stripping them of any advantage.

Early SA/SS efforts within Germany could have been reduced to something in between a civil war/civil unrest and an insurrection, if it got organized enough, rather than coordinated slaughter. The Einsatzgruppen forces were even smaller, numbering only a few hundred to few thousand at their peak, that small number of men with guns were responsible for upwards of 65,000 civilian deaths. Tell me that would have happened with an armed populace.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Tell me that would have happened with an armed populace.

I'm not sure but if their fighting ability had been anything like the current Israelis, they would've been defeated. They are not warriors, the Jewish people. They are more into cerebral stuff like research and inventions.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I'm not sure but if their fighting ability had been anything like the current Israelis, they would've been defeated. They are not warriors, the Jewish people. They are more into cerebral stuff like research and inventions.

That's pretty generalizing and frankly racist. You threaten the life of people, their families, their children, their pets, they are liable to put you in the ground whether they're an Australian aboriginal, an English gentleman, or an Inuit... If they can.

 

[brycejones]

I'm not sure but if their fighting ability had been anything like the current Israelis, they would've been defeated. They are not warriors, the Jewish people. They are more into cerebral stuff like research and inventions.

WITAF

 

[Indus]

Maybe someone here has already mentioned this but Trump winning a second time AFTER his insurrection attempt would just show how widespread the mental health problem in the US is.

And then there's this:

 

[igor_kavinski]

That's pretty generalizing and frankly racist. You threaten the life of people, their families, their children, their pets, they are liable to put you in the ground whether they're an Australian aboriginal, an English gentleman, or an Inuit... If they can.

You didn't get my point. The current Israeli generation likes to fight when the odds are in their favor (all loaded up with ammo and advanced weaponry). They would rather shoot unarmed people than face the enemy in combat. It remains to be seen how they fare in an actual war, rather than being all comfy while committing genocide. They lost what? 1500 people max? They have killed more than 10 times that and their bloodlust is nowhere near finished. Protecting their families? If they were that devoted to doing that, the Hamas attack would've been prevented instead of their responsible people sleeping on the job.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

You didn't get my point. The current Israeli generation likes to fight when the odds are in their favor (all loaded up with ammo and advanced weaponry). They would rather shoot unarmed people than face the enemy in combat. It remains to be seen how they fare in an actual war, rather than being all comfy while committing genocide. They lost what? 1500 people max? They have killed more than 10 times that and their bloodlust is nowhere near finished. Protecting their families? If they were that devoted to doing that, the Hamas attack would've been prevented instead of their responsible people sleeping on the job.

A blitz attack from an unknown entity that lasts about an hour isn't what I'm referring to. That's a 'good guy with a gun' kind of situation which has always been dumb.

 

[Indus]

If you thought the conservaterrorists deregulating safety regs and causing the huge chem trainfire in the midwest was bad..

Just imagine NASA, Boeing and SpaceX run by them..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1804638579307794441

Spraying entire towns with hydrazine

 

[woolfe9998]

Early SA/SS efforts within Germany could have been reduced to something in between a civil war/civil unrest and an insurrection, if it got organized enough, rather than coordinated slaughter. The Einsatzgruppen forces were even smaller, numbering only a few hundred to few thousand at their peak, that small number of men with guns were responsible for upwards of 65,000 civilian deaths. Tell me that would have happened with an armed populace.

Corrections: the Einsatzgruppen killed at least 1.5 million people. The Jager report tallies 137,000 killings carried out by Einsatzgruppen A alone, just through 12/1/41. Though at times they had help from the Wehrmacht, as well as local auxiliary forces in places like Ukraine and the Baltic states. Mainly for rounding up the victims. They did the shooting themselves.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Corrections: the Einsatzgruppen killed at least 1.5 million people. The Jager report tallies 137,000 killings carried out by Einsatzgruppen A alone, just through 12/1/41. Though at times they had help from the Wehrmacht, as well as local auxiliary forces in places like Ukraine and the Baltic states. Mainly for rounding up the victims. They did the shooting themselves.

My mistake, thank you for the correction. My point still stands though regarding firearm availability reducing or eliminating the effects of this.

 

[igor_kavinski]

My point still stands though regarding firearm availability reducing or eliminating the effects of this.

Wouldn't widespread firearms availability (let's suppose one firearm in every 2nd household) increase the chances of a "shoot first, identify threat later" problem in times of chaos?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Wouldn't widespread firearms availability (let's suppose one firearm in every 2nd household) increase the chances of a "shoot first, identify threat later" problem in times of chaos?

I suppose that brings some bonus questions like 'would you rather be shot, or watch your family ripped apart, get starved for months while having forced labor, before finally being gassed to death before anyone has a chance to rescue you'.

Probably, but I'd take my chances with forming impromptu militias instead, thank you.