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quikah

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It means Wireless networks.

There is nothing for them to share when it comes to cabled networks.

How the "Sharing" is done would be nice to know!

They have this on Windowsphone 8.1. I am not sure if it is the same or not, https://www.windowsphone.com/en-in/how-to/wp8/connectivity/wi-fi-sense-faq

They describe it:

Your contacts don't see your WiFi network password. For networks you choose to share access to, the password is sent over an encrypted connection and stored in an encrypted file on a Microsoft server, then sent over a secure connection to your contacts' phone if they use WiFi Sense and they're in range of the WiFi network you've shared. Your contacts can't see your password, and you can't see theirs.

If it bothers you turn it off.
 

smakme7757

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They have this on Windowsphone 8.1. I am not sure if it is the same or not, https://www.windowsphone.com/en-in/how-to/wp8/connectivity/wi-fi-sense-faq

They describe it:

If it bothers you turn it off.
I'm not bothered by stuff like this. But knowing what it does is still interesting. I don't use an internet account with my Windows 8 machines, so most of this "Cloud", "Modern" stuff doesn't apply to me.

But I see the general way Windows is moving, revenue through selling users information. I'm fine with that on a social networks, but as a core part of my OS, not so much.
 

RampantAndroid

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I stopped reading right there. No reputable member of the infosec community writes that junk and expects others to take them seriously.

This is a tinfoil hat nonsense rant.

Add to that...last I knew, the link to use a local account (as in, not hotmail/live) is EASIER to find than in 8.1.
 

lxskllr

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I went through the installer for the 1st time an hour or so ago. Lots of:

"Collect: speech, typing, spelling" ect... But i could opt out from all of it.

I don't especially like opting out of stuff, and I don't like being bombarded by requests on first install/run, with eye-wateringly long TOSs that obfuscate the real ramifications of what you're agreeing to. All the companies do it, and it pisses me off. My policy is reject everything, and see what breaks. So far, with my usage, it's nothing.

I'm fairly technically adept, but a lot of the stuff requires significant thought to determine how a "feature" can negatively affect me. How the hell can "normal" people navigate that minefield?
 

ninaholic37

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I'm fairly technically adept, but a lot of the stuff requires significant thought to determine how a "feature" can negatively affect me. How the hell can "normal" people navigate that minefield?
I think you are quite normal, in the way you approach, react to, and handle this sort of "paperwork" garbage. The only people who enjoy them are probably the guys who write them, even most of them probably hate their jobs and their $$$/salary is only thing stopping them from jumping off a building :D
 

lxskllr

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BTW...

I'll gladly stick with my older, less "secure" spyware-free Micro$haft operating systems, thank you very much.

That's overly optimistic, and patently false, unless he's talking about DOS :^D

Hard to take him seriously when he's only talking about degrees. 20 grams of spyware is totally ok, but 35 grams is beyond the pale! :^D