Console gaming really is a race to the bottom! Death to Consoles!

[mindcycle]

Here's the kicker...while those PC gamers are spending $1000 or so every other year to upgrade their machines to be able to push the state of the art, console gamers pay somewhere between $300-$600 every, oh, 4-8 years on a new console.

I haven't upgraded my PC in 5 years (besides adding a 8800GT maybe 3 years ago) and I can play all of the latest PC games, err.. console ports, no problem.

BTW, I own both a 360 and PS3, so not knocking console gaming here.. just pointing out that you don't need a state of the art machine to run most PC games nowadays. That includes most AAA PC titles (which are mostly console ports anyway).

 

[Deeko]

I haven't upgraded my PC in 5 years (besides adding a 8800GT maybe 3 years ago) and I can play all of the latest PC games, err.. console ports, no problem.

BTW, I own both a 360 and PS3, so not knocking console gaming here.. just pointing out that you don't need a state of the art machine to run most PC games nowadays. That includes most AAA PC titles (which are mostly console ports anyway).

1) Of course you can run them - but can you run them better than their console variants?
2) I'm sure when you built the PC 5 years ago you spent more than the cost of an XBox 360
3) You DID upgrade 3 years ago, the most important part for gaming, soo...

 

[pennylane]

Meh. I don't see why there even has to be a debate. Most PC gamers I know also own a console. PC and console gaming can be complementary.

 

[mugs]

You're right, console gaming sucks. And we're all insecure about it, which is why you see us posting troll threads in the PC Gaming forum.

Oh wait.

 

[JoPh]

we fail at life and are all fanbois.

kthxbai

 

[mindcycle]

1) Of course you can run them - but can you run them better than their console variants?

Resolution and effects wise (AA, etc..), yes. I've yet to purchase a game that I heard was poorly optimized for the PC however, so i'm sure there a a few games that would run worse, sure.

2) I'm sure when you built the PC 5 years ago you spent more than the cost of an XBox 360

By about $100 - $150 maybe, given the cost of a 360 at the time.

3) You DID upgrade 3 years ago, the most important part for gaming, soo...

You're right. I was just pointing out that at it's core it's a 5 year old machine based on 5 year old technology, just like the 360.. So the argument that you need to upgrade to latest and greatest to push the state of the art doesn't hold up very well. I can easily run most consoles ports and they look as good or better than they do on a console and I have far from the latest and greatest.

 

[gorcorps]

Jesus OP... do you jack off to PC specs too? If you don't like consoles then don't play them. Don't play them, get pissed, then blubber on about it here.

 

[bullbert]

However, console gaming provides abilities that aren't capable with the PC such as multiplayer couch gaming. Pick your trade-offs.

PC multiplayer couch gaming has been available since the 1980s.

 

[jman19]

Uh, isn't that article for CoD4?

 

[Thraxen]

PC multiplayer couch gaming has been available since the 1980s.

Sure, it's just not practical for most people. In general, most people have their PCs in an office or on a corner desk somewhere and don't want them in the main entertainment area when people are wanting to do work on them, general web browsing, email, etc... And given that most people have no desire to have two PCs consoles become the obvious choice.

 

[JackBurton]

PC multiplayer couch gaming has been available since the 1980s.

Give me a freakin' break. It's fucking retarded using a keyboard and mouse on a TV tray to play a PC game "on the couch." PC gaming was designed to play on a desk. Can you play it on the couch? Yes. Is that the best place to play it? No. Consoles are designed to be played in a more casual environment, like on a couch.

I gave up PC gaming when the bullshit gaming DRM started infecting my machine that I used to do WAY more productive things than game. I also got tired of playing online with cheating loser hackers. With a console, you can cheat, but it is MUCH harder and the playing field is much more level. And finally, gaming on a PC is a COMPLETE waste of money. I'd rather put that money toward a console and upgrade my home theater components. Not only does upgrading the HT system provide for a better gaming experience, it also provides for a better movie, audio and TV viewing experience.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Holy crap troll much?

 

[Razgriz]

troll troll troll your boat

 

[mmntech]

Want to see why PC gamers are bailing on the platform. Check out the UBIsoft DRM thread on the PC Gaming board.

 

[meltdown75]

i like my PC for my older PC games.

my PS3 is kickin ass at the moment though. i lerbs it

 

[Deeko]

Resolution and effects wise (AA, etc..), yes. I've yet to purchase a game that I heard was poorly optimized for the PC however, so i'm sure there a a few games that would run worse, sure.

By about $100 - $150 maybe, given the cost of a 360 at the time.

You're right. I was just pointing out that at it's core it's a 5 year old machine based on 5 year old technology, just like the 360.. So the argument that you need to upgrade to latest and greatest to push the state of the art doesn't hold up very well. I can easily run most consoles ports and they look as good or better than they do on a console and I have far from the latest and greatest.

So you spent more initially - and you upgraded it - and it looks marginally better than console games? Isn't that just a less extreme example of what I said? How would a $499 PC from 2005 be holding up today gaming-wise? I'm sure it would still run games, but not well.

Obviously my example was more extreme, to keep ahead of the curve (refer to my Crysis/Doom 3 examples - you DO need a bleeding edge PC to play the games that are designed for the PC and push the limits). However, you still pretty much are just proving my point here.

 

[RagingBITCH]

PC gaming had it's time in the sun back before the console companies adopted online gaming as a key part of the gaming experience. Who wants to really game with 1-3 other people on the same TV screen? It's fun but not the optimal experience. Getting consoles online is what put the nail in the coffin.

I love how (as proven by this thread) the PC fanboi's only argument about it's superiority are the graphics.

 

[vi edit]

Another perk for me is rentals. I get free game rentals from blockbuster. I haven't paid for a new release in years.

 

[warcrow]

This thread is really going places!

 

[mindcycle]

So you spent more initially - and you upgraded it - and it looks marginally better than console games?

Not sure where I said it looks marginally better..

Obviously my example was more extreme, to keep ahead of the curve (refer to my Crysis/Doom 3 examples - you DO need a bleeding edge PC to play the games that are designed for the PC and push the limits). However, you still pretty much are just proving my point here.

I can play Crysis just fine on high settings with my machine, and can max out Doom 3 easily, so that reference doesn't really prove anything. Besides, what game besides Crysis has come out in the last few years that has really pushed current gen hardware besides poorly optomized console ports?

The only reason to own a bleeding edge PC nowadays would be if you wanted to run a game at an extremely high resolution, or, as stated above, to max out a poorly optimized port. Other than that you can do just fine with PC technology that is several generations old.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

This thread is hilarious. The OP's incoherent rant is hilarious.

Hey, OP, looking forward to buying Assassin's Creed 2 for the PC? Better hope that you don't have a hitch in your internet connection while playing a single player game, because if you do, AC2 will quit on you mid-game because it can't constantly "re-authenticate" your permissions to play a game you bought.

Is it 2007 again? I remember this hoopla when Halo 3 was discovered to not be "true 1080p". But hey, 5000x4000 is all that matters, amirite?

 

[Deeko]

Not sure where I said it looks marginally better..



I can play Crysis just fine on high settings with my machine, and can max out Doom 3 easily, so that reference doesn't really prove anything. Besides, what game besides Crysis has come out in the last few years that has really pushed current gen hardware besides poorly optomized console ports?

The only reason to own a bleeding edge PC nowadays would be if you wanted to run a game at an extremely high resolution, or, as stated above, to max out a poorly optimized port. Other than that you can do just fine with PC technology that is several generations old.

Of course you can play Doom 3 - the point was when it was RELEASED, it stressed the top machines. And you updated your video card around the time Crysis was released, so I'd hope it would be playable "just fine", but you are lying to yourself if you think it runs it as well as a top end machine would. And even still - your machine both costed more than a console, AND has been upgraded, so its completely besides the point. How's that 2005 $499 PC holding up with Crysis or COD : MW2?

You are missing the point, and arguing with me for the sake of arguing. It is more expensive to maintain a PC gaming machine than a console. Period. There is absolutely no way around that, there is no arguing that, and if you do, you are just trolling.

Hell, I don't have a problem with PC gaming. I'm just pointing out a simple, undeniable fact.

 

[smackababy]

I love how everyone is forgetting that one thing console lovers talk about: the big screen TV. Last time I checked, for the price of a nice 46" LCD, you can build a computer that blows consoles away.

Now, having a nice PC, an Xbox360, and a 46" TV, I can stand firmly in the neutral territory eating my cake.

Maintaining that console my intially be cheap, but once you add in all that makes it the "experience" it costs just as much as a PC.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

I love how everyone is forgetting that one thing console lovers talk about: the big screen TV. Last time I checked, for the price of a nice 46" LCD, you can build a computer that blows consoles away.

Now, having a nice PC, an Xbox360, and a 46" TV, I can stand firmly in the neutral territory eating my cake.

Maintaining that console my intially be cheap, but once you add in all that makes it the "experience" it costs just as much as a PC.

Uh...the "big screen HDTV" is used for more than just gaming. Also, buying the same size monitor for a computer would cost the same price?

Or do you not realize that the TV doesn't run the games? Or do you build a $2,000 gaming rig then buy a 19" $100 monitor? Monitors aren't free you know.

Bad analogy is bad.

 

[vi edit]

While that's true, a TV can also be used for...well watching TV and movies. And I don't know about your household, but my wife would much rather have a nice TV in the house to watch Gray's Anatomy on than a high end 22" monitor and a $500 video card.