Conservatives take any opportunity to what they think is a time to get back at liberals... Apparently superbowl is not an exception for them.

[MrSquished]

People see you as a Nazi enabler because you literally support Nazis. If you find that repulsive maybe you should stop supporting Nazis.

Just about everyone here sees what that guy is save for a few. A fucking Nazi - he literally voted for them when it was clear what they were, and people here were making logical and nuanced points how that is exactly what they were. It's not like he has the excuse of not having information. @Greenman is literally the worst kind of Nazi supporter - he was informed by very intelligent people over and over and over again and still chose the Nazi way.

Moonbeam wouldn't recognize a Nazi if they sieg heiled right in front of him and then firebombed a synagogue they were standing next to, for example.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Judging others is an absolute necessity in any collection of people. In a forum it's in some ways easier because it's anonymous, people express thoughts and feelings that they would never say to another's face. I find it both repulsive and craven.

Repulsive and craven is what you voted for, so redeeming qualities for you.

 

[Moonbeam]

Judging others is an absolute necessity in any collection of people. In a forum it's in some ways easier because it's anonymous, people express thoughts and feelings that they would never say to another's face. I find it both repulsive and craven.

I don't give a shit what you think about me.

I give a shit about people being ignorant of evil people because they end up helping these evil people do evil. Like in history books and like in the news everyday.

The problem I have is that the way I look at your two points of view, they seem to be the same, judgments about characteristics of people each of you is absolutely convinced are deplorable, a judgement about others about that certainty of which arises not via some scientific evidence you can elucidate, but purely based of ‘feels’, unexamined, unconscious reactions whose negative characteristics arise out of having been personally exposed to shaming, having been put down in the past for exactly what you how despise in others. Your moral standards, no matter how valid as positives we would all live better by if practiced, are not upheld internally by real moral conviction, but by fear that acting out in such negative ways will result in abandonment and exile, the withdrawal of love and support and exposure to ridicule and punishment.

This is why I believe each of you sees the other as, simply put, ‘evil’ and why this is really all about projection, seeing the other as one learned one should never ever be, a side of yourselves you have learned to despise and deny ever having been.

In this way you live in a state of division, intolerant and hostile to how we all once were, self centered and caring only for ourselves and beaten out of such behaviors, at least regarding any conscious awareness of them, long ago as children.

There is nothing wrong with your principles. People without such inner division, people who see past such self contempt and forgive, are not Nazis or screaming brats. We no longer need our parents to survive nor any of the morality they imprisoned us with. We have the option to open the door to acceptance of our true nature, that our birthright is the joy of being.

What we hate and fear, that’s where the light is.

 

[Moonbeam]

Just about everyone here sees what that guy is save for a few. A fucking Nazi - he literally voted for them when it was clear what they were, and people here were making logical and nuanced points how that is exactly what they were. It's not like he has the excuse of not having information. @Greenman is literally the worst kind of Nazi supporter - he was informed by very intelligent people over and over and over again and still chose the Nazi way.

Moonbeam wouldn't recognize a Nazi if they sieg heiled right in front of him and then firebombed a synagogue they were standing next to, for example.

Do you think that if it were absolutely possible for Greenman to firebomb a synagogue and never get caught or punished for it with absolute certainty, he would make the effort to cross a street to do so? A Nazi would. I’d take that bet inside the synagogue.

 

[MrSquished]

Do you think that if it were absolutely possible for Greenman to firebomb a synagogue and never get caught or punished for it with absolute certainty, he would make the effort to cross a street to do so? A Nazi would. I’d take that bet inside the synagogue

Yes moonbeam. The only real Nazis in Germany were the ones that actually went out and killed people and destroyed things. The others were just very fine people I'm sure.

Brother you are ignorant of History. Please for your sake, and for ours, start figuring out basic facts about humanity

 

[Indus]

If you think something is going to happen to MAGA right now you're dreaming.

$14 a dozen eggs isn't enough apparently for people to turn on them.

They're going to have to do somethings 1000x worse than Charlottesville for it to make a dent and even then people will forget about it the following Monday.

 

[HomerJS]

Judging others is an absolute necessity in any collection of people. In a forum it's in some ways easier because it's anonymous, people express thoughts and feelings that they would never say to another's face. I find it both repulsive and craven.

For the record, there isn't anything I've said here I wouldn't say to someone's face. I've told people things I have said here not fearing any recriminations.

I would love to see the reaction in a diverse group someone saying the proliferation of Nazis isn't concerning. I know it would go over pretty well at CPAC.

 

[Moonbeam]

Yes moonbeam. The only real Nazis in Germany were the ones that actually went out and killed people and destroyed things. The others were just very fine people I'm sure.

Brother you are ignorant of History. Please for your sake, and for ours, start figuring out basic facts about humanity

That was not your proposition. You said that I wouldn't recognize Greenman as a Nazi if he firebombed a synagogue in front of my eyes. My reply simply said I would bet my life I would never see such evidence. I made it perfectly clear I don't buy you or his condemnation of others. In my opinion both of you are wrongfully judgmental, not necessarily about the judgments themselves, but on the unconscious nature of their source. There are facts and then there are ways people react to them, rationally or irrationally. You react with contempt of others that is created by contempt for yourself and he reacts to good moral principles for misguided reasons. You both get some things right for the wrong reasons. I offer this as my opinion. Both of you react with a moral certainty based on nothing but feelings. You both live in a world of good and evil that doesn't actually exist. Neither of you can prove a thing. You both believe that what you believe doesn't require it because unconsciously you believe the proof is already in. Define what the good is in a way that is logically irrefutable. All your truths are subjective, based on thinking and imagination, feelings attached to concepts, past experiences and unpleasant memories. You are both programmed.

I am the same with one difference. I have had to confront the fact that I actually know nothing and that opened to door to a different place, timelessness, consciousnesses, awareness, if for a brief second. But it changed everything. My ego is horseshit.

 

[Moonbeam]

For the record, there isn't anything I've said here I wouldn't say to someone's face. I've told people things I have said here not fearing any recriminations.

I would love to see the reaction in a diverse group someone saying the proliferation of Nazis isn't concerning. I know it would go over pretty well at CPAC.

The truth is protected by it's immediate unlikelihood. It is invisible to people. Jesus was a truth teller. He was crucified for it. Having the maturity to hear truth is a long difficult process requiring the loss of all manner of unconsciously held stupidities.

Mulla Nasrudin arrived at a town where the king had proclaimed that liars would be hanged. Where are you going asked the guards. To be hanged, said Nasrudin. You're lying, said the guards. If I'm lying then hang me, said Nasrudin, but that will mean I am telling the truth.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

My reply simply said I would bet my life I would never see such evidence.

That's real easy if you never enter a synagogue.

We will always fail to see what we don't look for, whether it's a burning building we're not in or an unexpected Nazi at the table.

 

[Moonbeam]

That's real easy if you never enter a synagogue.

We will always fail to see what we don't look for, whether it's a burning building we're not in or an unexpected Nazi at the table.

If you are reading while awake what I have said, I made it clear that were I inside of a synagogue with Greenman right outside capable of destroying it without any consequences whatsoever, I would take the bet from MrSquished that my life would be in no danger. I would bet that Greenman is not the Nazi that Mrsquished [predicts him to be.

I believe this to be the case and would be so if the nearest Temple to me were a thousand miles away instead of the one I can walk to in a few minutes time and into which I have been dozens and dozens of times.

I also have the capacity and willingness to kill someone random Nazi trying to blow it up, not if it were empty but if a person or people were actually in it. Squished can't do that. He doesn't believe in armed self defense. He would have to use his teeth or maybe a rock.

In my opinion seeing Greenman as a Nazi is the product of a delusional state. He's has good conservative values but believes in them incorrectly, in my opinion. That lack of understanding does not extend to him being OK with killing Jews. You guys are just nuts, in my opinion. You are also deplorable, of course, for thinking like you do. Not to worry, I trust you almost as much as I trust Greenman. You all know, I hope, that conservatives hold to more real virtues than liberals do, even if their understanding of them is fucked up.

 

[cytg111]

I'm happy that I have no idea what this conglomeration of nonsense is about.

Good to know

 

[cytg111]

Judging others is an absolute necessity in any collection of people. In a forum it's in some ways easier because it's anonymous, people express thoughts and feelings that they would never say to another's face. I find it both repulsive and craven.

Arh pour your heart out wont you.

 

[ivwshane]

Repulsive and craven is what you voted for, so redeeming qualities for you.

It’s already been established that the bar greenman has set for the president is lower than the bar he has set for anonymous people on a forum. He has no problem calling out bad behavior here but in the 25 years he’s been posting here, I don’t think I’ve ever seen him criticize Trump or republicans in general except maybe when comparing two Republican political opponents.

 

[HomerJS]

It’s already been established that the bar greenman has set for the president is lower than the bar he has set for anonymous people on a forum. He has no problem calling out bad behavior here but in the 25 years he’s been posting here, I don’t think I’ve ever seen him criticize Trump or republicans in general except maybe when comparing two Republican political opponents.

Neither @Greenman or @pcgeek11 will confess or know they have two faces. They both downplay the threat of Nazis/white nationalists but let a group of so called black militants march with signs that say “punish whitey” they would be the first to cheer on Trump invoking the insurrection act, having them arrested and sent to the new Gitmo.

The geek even said BLM was as bad as the Klan

 

[WilliamM2]

If you think something is going to happen to MAGA right now you're dreaming.

$14 a dozen eggs isn't enough apparently for people to turn on them.

They're going to have to do somethings 1000x worse than Charlottesville for it to make a dent and even then people will forget about it the following Monday.

You are starting to sound like a maga propagandist. Eggs may be $14 for some organic BS, but they just hit $5 here (highest it's ever been), and it's only that high because of a major bird flu outbreak. They were under $4 a month ago.
And they are now required to only sell cage free eggs in MI, which raised them a buck on Jan. 1st.

 

[brycejones]

You are starting to sound like a maga propagandist. Eggs may be $14 for some organic BS, but they just hit $5 here (highest it's ever been), and it's only that high because of a major bird flu outbreak. They were under $4 a month ago.
And they are now required to only sell cage free eggs in MI, which raised them a buck on Jan. 1st.

Egg producers in Michigan had years to get ready for the cage free requirement. The date of it going into effect just happened to line up with when bird flu hammered flocks here. Egg producers here have blamed bird flu and not the cage free law for price increases.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

You are starting to sound like a maga propagandist. Eggs may be $14 for some organic BS, but they just hit $5 here (highest it's ever been), and it's only that high because of a major bird flu outbreak. They were under $4 a month ago.
And they are now required to only sell cage free eggs in MI, which raised them a buck on Jan. 1st.

Our local place's store brand. Don't ask me why 18ct are more expensive per.

 

[DZero]

If you think something is going to happen to MAGA right now you're dreaming.

$14 a dozen eggs isn't enough apparently for people to turn on them.

They're going to have to do somethings 1000x worse than Charlottesville for it to make a dent and even then people will forget about it the following Monday.

Mmm... that would make think that if a 9-11 happens again, is likely to be forgotten now... this might be the worst time to the humankind since humans are deshumanized.

 

[WilliamM2]

Egg producers in Michigan had years to get ready for the cage free requirement. The date of it going into effect just happened to line up with when bird flu hammered flocks here. Egg producers here have blamed bird flu and not the cage free law for price increases.

I know it's bird flu, I mentioned that I my post. But cage free did raise the price, but it was about $0.50 a dozen, my memory was bad:

Michigan to require cage-free eggs Jan. 1: What it means for you

In 2019, the Legislature passed a law to require cage-free eggs in Michigan starting Jan. 1. Here's what to expect.

www.freep.com

The average price of cage-free eggs is $3.33 per dozen compared to $2.88 for conventionally farmed eggs, according to the US Department of Agriculture.

But that wasn't my point, I was pointing out that his $14 a dozen was BS. I saw the post where he shared a pic of the most expensive organic eggs he could find.

 

[Indus]

You are starting to sound like a maga propagandist. Eggs may be $14 for some organic BS, but they just hit $5 here (highest it's ever been), and it's only that high because of a major bird flu outbreak. They were under $4 a month ago.
And they are now required to only sell cage free eggs in MI, which raised them a buck on Jan. 1st.

Dunno where you live but this is where I am

$14.50 for 18 white large.

 

[WilliamM2]

Dunno where you live but this is where I am

$14 for 18 white large.

I saw the BS post with organic eggs, and using 18 to make it sound even higher. I said I'm in Michigan right in the post, where are you? I'll look myself.

 

[Indus]

I saw the BS post with organic eggs, and using 18 to make it sound even higher. I said I'm in Michigan right in the post, where are you? I'll look myself.

That was 12 eggs!

I'll post the image if you want.. it says DOZEN.

Here you go.. it's not me lying and making it up:





And I'm at Howard Beach, Queens, New York 11414!

A very Trumpy neighborhood!

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

That was 12 eggs!

I'll post the image if you want.. it says DOZEN.

Here you go.. it's not me lying and making it up:

View attachment 117353



And I'm at Howard Beach, Queens, New York 11414!

A very Trumpy neighborhood!

How much are normal, large eggs, not organic jumbos.

 

[Brainonska511]

How much are normal, large eggs, not organic jumbos.

Yeah... Pete and Gerry's and other "organic" eggs tend to be more expensive.
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In MA, I bought a dozen store brand, or store-brand like eggs for $5.50 the other day (and all "cage-free" per MA law).