Conservatives call on Federal Reserve to take down gay pride flag

[wuliheron]

Did they fly a confederate flag during confederate heritage month?

The South lost the war. Get over it. Homosexuals are winning their fight. Get over it.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by ProfJohn
Did they fly a confederate flag during confederate heritage month?

Homosexuals are winning their fight.

Get over it.

Hey hey hey, they haven't converted PJ yet so a ways to go.

 

[zsdersw]

Their web address is federalreserve.gov so while they are not a full fledged government agency neither are they a private corporation. They have no more business taking political stances with a flag than would the USPS which is another quasi government operation.

They're a private organization in the ways that are relevant to this issue.

Federal Reserve Employees are not part of the US Civil Service System and are not covered by government employees’ health insurance or pension programs. Except for the highly publicized Chairman and 7 member Washington Board, hiring and firing is a matter that's in private, unelected hands. Federal Reserve Banks are not listed as government organizations by the telephone companies, as well.

FYI... the USPS's website is .com, so I'm not at all sure that the FR's website being .gov is terribly relevant.

 

[zsdersw]

BTW do they fly the Cuban flag during Latin American history month?

It's all about who asks for a flag to be shown and who doesn't ask.

 

[wuliheron]

It's laughable that VA's law regards homosexual acts as a felony. I wonder how many people have been arrested and convicted of this felony in VA (or any other state that has similar laws). Why do they have a law on the books that's not being enforced? As a libertarian, I believe laws that are not enforced should be eliminated. I also highly doubt that a sodomy law would be upheld if put to the people by referendum.

As for the flag, I think it's great that idiotic conservatives make their idiocy more well-known than it perhaps would have otherwise been.

Hypocrisy in politics is not new, something you can just wish away, or something to be merely ignored or laughed at. It is the disease of democracy where effective communication is all important.

 

[actuarial]

And more to the point:
gay pride is a contentious issue just as confederate heritage is a contentious issue so why is right to fly one flag but not the other?

Did anyone suggest it wasn't right to fly a confederate flag, or are you just building a straw man?

 

[fskimospy]

You have a northern view of the civil war and should spend some time in the south and learn the southern view of the war.

They actually do believe that the war was about states rights and the right of them to determine their own course etc etc.

I went to school up north and then spent a couple years of the south and the way they look at the war IS very different than what you were taught. We even had to do profiles on each confederate state. Not because we were a bunch of racists who wanted to return to slavery, but because that is part of the history of the south.


BTW do they fly the Cuban flag during Latin American history month?

That's because Southerners are trying to whitewash history, because the truth is too ugly.

If you want to see that the Confederacy was made to protect slavery you need look no further than the ordinances of secession as passed by the states themselves. They EXPLICITLY state it.

 

[Craig234]

The rationale is simple: Since there is no way to satisfy all groups, then there should be no overt support/advertising for any.

'Since no leader who was OPPOSED to the civil rights movement gets a national holiday, Martin Luther King, Jr. shouldn't either. We have to be fair to bigotry AND equality.'

 

[Thump553]

Yet again conservatives try to force their belief systems upon everyone, as if freedom and other's beliefs are irrelevant. And probably their next breath is a rant against "political correctness."

 

[actuarial]

At the risk of getting flamed: If a government agency cannot display things such as a Cross, or a Star of David, or a Confederate Flag, then it also stands to reason they equally should not display emblems associated with however many other secular and non~secular groups.

Basically: US Flag/Emblem, State Flag/Emblem, Local Flag/Emblem, Agency Emblem and nothing else.

The rationale is simple: Since there is no way to satisfy all groups, then there should be no overt support/advertising for any.

The reason they can't display a cross or star of David is because of first amendment issues. I don't see how a rainbow flag, or emblems of any other groups, has to deal with the establishment of a state religion.

Satisfying all groups has never been the issue.

 

[Genx87]

Yet again conservatives try to force their belief systems upon everyone, as if freedom and other's beliefs are irrelevant. And probably their next breath is a rant against "political correctness."

Everybody tries to force their beliefs on everybody else. What else is new?

 

[actuarial]

I want the flag of Mexico flown in support of our Hispanic brothers and sisters in this country. I want the POW/MIA flag flown. I want the LGBT flag flown. I want the Black Panther flag flown. I want that fucking flagpole filled from top to bottom. Everyone must be pleased. This is America goddammit!

So get a job there, find enough people that agree with you, start a group, and petition management to fly one of those flags.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Yet again conservatives try to force their belief systems upon everyone, as if freedom and other's beliefs are irrelevant. And probably their next breath is a rant against "political correctness."

You must be a conservative then....was the lobotomy painful?

 

[Lemon law]

Maybe the problem, a flag is a piece of cloth and nothing more. So we attack a symbol, and not even anything related to the symptoms of the problem.

Why should not gay pride be as American as apple pie, its not like it comes from foreigners. We get the problem from our very own children. Most are born "straight",
but what do we do with the small percentage born Gay and Lesbian. Don't they too deserve equal rights as Americans?

 

[sMiLeYz]

He wrote that homosexuality “adds significantly to illness, increases health costs, promotes venereal diseases, and worsens the population imbalance relating to the number of workers supporting the beneficiaries of America’s Social Security and Medicare programs.”

lol wtf is wrong these people?

For the record, I couldn't care less if the Federal Reserve fly the Confederate flag, gay pride flag or the goatse flag. I think theres better things to bitch about.

 

[cubby1223]

The Fed probably shouldn't be flying any flags other than the national and state flags.

Pretty much what I was thinking.

 

[ShawnD1]

The more conservatives shout anti-gay rhetoric, the more quickly LGBT rights are likely to recognized. So I say, good.

What? No. Gays will finally have rights when conservatives go fuck themselves.

lol wtf is wrong these people?

Technically he's right. Gay people men do have a disproportional rate of HIV infection. That's all part of the bumming lifestyle; anal sex has a lot of risks involved. The line "worsens the population imbalance relating to the number of workers supporting the beneficiaries of America’s Social Security and Medicare programs" relates to the way SS and Medicare are set up like pyramid schemes. Instead of being like a normal insurance policy where most people will never collect (ie your house usually doesn't burn to the ground), SS and Medicare are things most people do collect, and they collect a lot more than they put in. The only way to balance the system is to have exponential population growth, which gay people don't contribute to because gay people usually don't have fuckloads of accidental children.

New rule: you can't collect Social Security or Medicare unless you qualify for disability benefits and have a doctor sign a piece of paper saying you physically cannot work. That way it wouldn't be set up like a pyramid scheme and gay people would not be blamed.

 

[PokerGuy]

The conservatives are right, the fed reserve bank shouldn't be flying any such flag. I still think there are other more pressing issues to deal with, but they are right on this issue.

 

[jackstar7]

The conservatives are right, the fed reserve bank shouldn't be flying any such flag. I still think there are other more pressing issues to deal with, but they are right on this issue.

Show your work.

 

[cubby1223]

Don't they too deserve equal rights as Americans?

Show me a straight pride flag flying at the Federal Reserve, then I will consider it "equal rights" for a gay pride flag to fly there.

 

[HomerJS]

You have a northern view of the civil war and should spend some time in the south and learn the southern view of the war.

They actually do believe that the war was about states rights and the right of them to determine their own course etc etc.

I went to school up north and then spent a couple years of the south and the way they look at the war IS very different than what you were taught. We even had to do profiles on each confederate state. Not because we were a bunch of racists who wanted to return to slavery, but because that is part of the history of the south.


BTW do they fly the Cuban flag during Latin American history month?

At one time the Nazi flag merely represented the National Socialist Party of Germany. Not too many people eager to fly it these days.

 

[Linflas]

Show your work.

How about a Gadsden flag? Should they be flying one of those? Or an Democratic party flag? Republican party flag? The point is the Federal Reserve System is supposed to be non-partisan and apolitical and therefore should not be flying any flags other than the US Flag, the state flag where they are located, and perhaps a city flag if there is one.

 

[Craig234]

Show me a straight pride flag flying at the Federal Reserve, then I will consider it "equal rights" for a gay pride flag to fly there.

Show me where the US history has the same discrimination against the minority group of straight people that it has for gays, and I'll say you have a point.

 

[davmat787]

How about a Gadsden flag? Should they be flying one of those? Or an Democratic party flag? Republican party flag? The point is the Federal Reserve System is supposed to be non-partisan and apolitical and therefore should not be flying any flags other than the US Flag, the state flag where they are located, and perhaps a city flag if there is one.

Agreed. Also, being against this does not make you anti gay by any means. I would feel the same way if they were to fly any flag other than country, state, or agency.

 

[Perknose]

You have a northern view of the civil war and should spend some time in the south and learn the southern view of the war.

They actually do believe that the war was about states rights and the right of them to determine their own course etc etc.

North Koreans have a different view of the Korean war as well. Your "point" has no applicable validity.