Originally posted by: rjain
LordMagnusKain: So basically, you'd like to force your desires for your ideal society on me?
We all vote for the guy we figure is going to bring us to a more ideal society, i don't want to 'repress' you, but I'm not going to vote for someone that wants the opposite of what i believe is a good idea for the nation.
I definitely wouldn't want a society where it is wrong to provide people with what they are willing to work for and to reward people for being willing to work for what society needs.
I believe the market is the best way to settle these things, but i also think people should be able to rely on food, shelter, clothing, equitable education and medical care no matter how bad off they are.
I wouldn't want a society where I am forced to believe in some arbitrary concepts and any dissent with them is forbidden.
freedom of religion IS a protestant Christian principle.
I have had a better life because I believe that there are no gods because that frees me to be able to learn and understand the universe and how it works. Otherwise, it would be as unknowable as the inner workings of the brain of a Christian fundamentalist.
The light of the lord casts away what isn't good.. i don't see that as ignorant, i see that as wise.
Christianity was basically a rebellion against those who were in authority. The statements quoted simply indicate that they were jealous and angry and wanted to demonize those who didn't work their asses off for the benefit of the lazy.
please, explain this
The one thing that I find strange is that they consider knowledge to be the root of all evil,
no, the choice to go against what you know is wrong is the root of all evil.. not knowledge, action.
I suppose this is in some way consistent because those who gained any little power as a result of this movement didn't want their followers taking that power for themselves.
Odd then this personal relationship with God that requires no church or hierarchy.
Those in power already obviously did not believe that knowledge is evil, so it would have no effect on them and the "insiders" knew better than to believe what they told their followers to believe.
could you exemplify this situation in regards to current political situations?