What's the difference between conroe and merom ?
(I've been searching the net for a while now looking for a plain-english answer but no luck.)
(I've been searching the net for a while now looking for a plain-english answer but no luck.)
conroe "vs" merom in plain english?
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merom goes into laptops.
Conroe goes into desktops.
Conroe consumes >65W of power.Merom consumes <35W of power.
Conroe+Merom=AMD beat down.
Conroe goes into desktops.
Conroe consumes >65W of power.Merom consumes <35W of power.
Conroe+Merom=AMD beat down.
Do all Meroms have lower Hz ratings than all Conroes? I've seen a breakdown of the Conroes Hz-wise, but I can't find anything for the Meroms...but maybe that's because the Meroms haven't been "officially" announced...?
But are their architectural differences between the desktop and laptop chips? Or are they pretty much the same? Does Mermon have optimisations to rteduce power consumption to extend battery life on notebooks? Would it be good to use a Mermon chip in say an HTPC where you want a powerful yet cool and quiet chip for media processing?
pretty much, but there are little difference in architech between them
merom just consume less power
It's like the difference between a P4 and a P4-M.... they are roughly the same thing, but the wattage is dropped on the M, and there are probably chipset (not necessarily processor) enhancements that making it all power-savey
Merom's also top out at lower wattage and lower clock freqneucies, 2.33GHZ for Merom and 2.93GHZ for Conroe XE, as well the FSB is slower on Merom 6677FSB vs 1066FSB. Architecturally they are identical.
Have you ever heard the scream of someone having thier soul ripped from thier body by the devil via the rectum?
Sit and imagine it for a second.
Got it?
Good.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
No. The Pentium M is a completely different design to the Pentium 4 design. The Pentium M is closer to Merom/Conroe in design than it is to the Pentium 4.
Originally posted by: Bobthelost
Have you ever heard the scream of someone having thier soul ripped from thier body by the devil via the rectum?
Sit and imagine it for a second.
Got it?
Good.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
No. The Pentium M is a completely different design to the Pentium 4 design. The Pentium M is closer to Merom/Conroe in design than it is to the Pentium 4.
Your post would be quite amusing if it wasn't so blatantly incorrect. He said P4-M NOT Pentium M. Pentium 4 Ms were just cherry-picked P4s (the last Pentium 4 M was a Northwood).
Originally posted by: Furen
Originally posted by: Bobthelost
Have you ever heard the scream of someone having thier soul ripped from thier body by the devil via the rectum?
Sit and imagine it for a second.
Got it?
Good.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
No. The Pentium M is a completely different design to the Pentium 4 design. The Pentium M is closer to Merom/Conroe in design than it is to the Pentium 4.
Your post would be quite amusing if it wasn't so blatantly incorrect. He said P4-M NOT Pentium M. Pentium 4 Ms were just cherry-picked P4s (the last Pentium 4 M was a Northwood).
*waves fist irritably*
Whoops
(Edit: Never even heard of them, learn a new thing everyday...)
merom are generally clocked lower and have a different implementation of speed step.
Like speedstep will drop the core speed to .8ghz(not sure,please confirm) for merom,yonah etc...Where as it would dropp only to 1.8 ghz on desktop procs(not sure of no again.)
And it would be a good idea to put merom in a HTPC.
Like speedstep will drop the core speed to .8ghz(not sure,please confirm) for merom,yonah etc...Where as it would dropp only to 1.8 ghz on desktop procs(not sure of no again.)
And it would be a good idea to put merom in a HTPC.
On the 667Mhz FSB Meroms (ie the ones coming out in 2 months time) will clock down to 1Ghz (6x166). The Conroes clock down to 1.6Ghz (6x266) except for the E4x00 which clocks down to 1.2Ghz (6x200).
Merom is architectualy the same as conroe (well basically)
Merom is a mobile processor. It uses a different socket compared to the conroe desktops.
Merom has higher multipliers because of the lower FSB.
Merom tops out at 2.33Ghz, Conroe at 2.93Ghz untill Q4 when the EE goes to 3.2Ghz
The T5x00 Meroms have 2MB shared cache, the T7x00 Meroms have 4MB shared cache.
Merom will be Intels first 64bit mobile processor.
Merom is architectualy the same as conroe (well basically)
Merom is a mobile processor. It uses a different socket compared to the conroe desktops.
Merom has higher multipliers because of the lower FSB.
Merom tops out at 2.33Ghz, Conroe at 2.93Ghz untill Q4 when the EE goes to 3.2Ghz
The T5x00 Meroms have 2MB shared cache, the T7x00 Meroms have 4MB shared cache.
Merom will be Intels first 64bit mobile processor.
Keysplayr
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I thought Conroe, Woodcrest, and Merom all had different pin counts and sockets?
Conroe 775
Merom 479
Woodcrest (Xeon, which traditionally has had a different pin count than desktop counterparts.)
Cores may be the same, but obviously there is something different, else they would all be called Conroe. Yes?
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Conroe = desktop Core 2
Woodcrest = server Core 2
Merom = mobile Core 2
The story goes like this: Intel created Netburst to push clockspeeds up through the roof. It was initially supposed to reach 5-6GHz, I think. Obviously, they never got past 4GHz stock. At the same time Intel's Netburst group was doing their thing (summary: the Prescott failure), the research team over in Israel came up with this nifty thing called the Pentium M. It dominated the notebook scene, and for good reason: it offered good performance with good battery life. Intel has basically scrapped their Netburst development, and Pentium M evolved into Yonah (current brand name: Core Duo). Yonah evolved into Conroe/Woodcrest/Merom (Core 2 Duo). So, here we have Conroe and co., which look like they've reclaimed the performance crown from AMD, both in outright performance and in power consumption.
They are all part of the same family, they share the same basic architecture, but there are some slight but significant differences between them. Conroe and Woodcrest are very similar. Woodcrest, being a server processor, is rated more conservatively, so it's more durable and less likely to fail (very important for server/enterprise).
Conroe is the flagship. It's what most of the hype is about.
Merom is the mobile version of Conroe. It uses something like half the power, but that comes at a speed penalty. It also supports much more advanced power-saving techniques (sleep states).
Woodcrest is all about performance-per-watt and reliability (this was previously where the Opteron was king).
Conroe is all about performance (this was previously AMD's territory).
Merom is all about battery life (Intel has always done well here, ever since the Pentium M and Centrino).
Woodcrest = server Core 2
Merom = mobile Core 2
The story goes like this: Intel created Netburst to push clockspeeds up through the roof. It was initially supposed to reach 5-6GHz, I think. Obviously, they never got past 4GHz stock. At the same time Intel's Netburst group was doing their thing (summary: the Prescott failure), the research team over in Israel came up with this nifty thing called the Pentium M. It dominated the notebook scene, and for good reason: it offered good performance with good battery life. Intel has basically scrapped their Netburst development, and Pentium M evolved into Yonah (current brand name: Core Duo). Yonah evolved into Conroe/Woodcrest/Merom (Core 2 Duo). So, here we have Conroe and co., which look like they've reclaimed the performance crown from AMD, both in outright performance and in power consumption.
They are all part of the same family, they share the same basic architecture, but there are some slight but significant differences between them. Conroe and Woodcrest are very similar. Woodcrest, being a server processor, is rated more conservatively, so it's more durable and less likely to fail (very important for server/enterprise).
Conroe is the flagship. It's what most of the hype is about.
Merom is the mobile version of Conroe. It uses something like half the power, but that comes at a speed penalty. It also supports much more advanced power-saving techniques (sleep states).
Woodcrest is all about performance-per-watt and reliability (this was previously where the Opteron was king).
Conroe is all about performance (this was previously AMD's territory).
Merom is all about battery life (Intel has always done well here, ever since the Pentium M and Centrino).
Conroe is the codename for the desktop version of Intel's Core microarchitecture. Merom is the codename for the mobile version. However, they share a brand identity--Core 2 Duo. Conroe also has the brand name Core 2 Extreme, for its high end parts. I have seen C2D referred to as desktop Core 2 Duo and mobile Core 2 Duo to distinguish them, also as Core 2 Duo E series and Core 2 Duo T series. What distinguishes the processors is not so much whether they will go into a desktop or laptop, but rather their TDP (thermal design point), which for the E series is 65W and for the T series 35W. Core 2 Extreme will be part of an X series (& has a TDP of 75W-80W).
I think it's 478 for mobile Core 2, because it's supposed to be pin-compatible with Core Duo.
771 pins, I believe, because of the LGA771.
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