Conroe Glitching

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BobAndy

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My setup:
Conroe E6400
MSI 975X Platnium Powerup
2GB OCZ Gold PC6400-DDR2-800
EVGA Geforce 7900 GT
OCZ Gamestream 600W
120 GB PATA Samsung Spinpoint
200 GB PATA Samsung Spinpoint
200 GB SATA Maxtor DMAX 10
Samsung DVD Burner
Sony CD burner
Windows XP Professional (I should specify legit...just to be sure. All updates to...this afternoon)
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You'd think that this would be a dream system... It's sound technically and from a general point.

WRONG.

I have never been so frustrated in my life. First: Ram does not recognize past 667. And just to kick me in the seat of the pants, it's hit and miss at that. Normally recognizes at 533. Second: Trying to burn anything, or install anything (from an optical drive, I'm pretty sure that's what the problem is) results in times that are excessive and slow. Like 25 minutes to install "The Sims 2" slow. Copying an AMV ~1.6 gigs was 20% completed at ~ 20 minutes. Normally it would take 4 to burn it completely. At a slow speed. You're supposed to be able to "burn a CD and watch a movie"...good luck on that. I cant get a song to play faster than half time... complete with glitching.

The only highlight is the video card works flawlessly.
(yay)

The whole point of this post...
Anybody got suggestions for fixing my glitching?
What should I do now... I've tried all the sane things I can think of, and all I find online are "Conroe overclocks YAY high." --Which to me, mean jack didley. I just want a computer to work.

What I've tried:

I have the 7.11 bios from MSI
Tried switching the third party controller and the native one for drive control (ROM drives on third party allows the system to work, putting the HDD's on it gives a no boot error)
Windows is up to date completely
Newest possible intel chipset drivers
Timings for ram and ram voltage are set correctly
...

The point: Can anyone here think of anything else I can do to make this sucker work correctly?

And if I DO have to RMA the board, (and/or memory), my next choice for composition is the ASUS P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe-Will my current ram work with that AT it's RATED speed, or am I SOL with OCZ ram... if I'm SOL, what would be a good substitute in a somewhat similar price range... I can afford a little more but I don't want to get too crazy.

That's all, I'll be actively trying stuff all day so anything is appreciated.

 
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DaveSimmons

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I'm waiting for the edge to stop bleeding before doing anything with core 2, but:

- is it a voltage problem on the memory? I've seen a bunch of posts about motherboards only wanting to supply 1.8v to RAM while the RAM needing 1.9v or more to run reliably

- have you tried relaxing the timings on the RAM, say if it's "supposed to" do 4-4-4 at 800 according to the SPD trying 5-5-5 instead?
 
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Bobthelost

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I'm waiting for the edge to stop bleeding before doing anything with core 2, but:

- is it a voltage problem on the memory? I've seen a bunch of posts about motherboards only wanting to supply 1.8v to RAM while the RAM needing 1.9v or more to run reliably

- have you tried relaxing the timings on the RAM, say if it's "supposed to" do 4-4-4 at 800 according to the SPD trying 5-5-5 instead?
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Sounds like the first thing to check to me. You do need to up the voltage for the shiny stuff are you 100% sure you're using the right voltage?

Your DVD drive taking so long to work sounds like it might be PIO related. Make sure it's in DMA mode.

Remember, the vast majority of computer problems are due to the user. Just because you know more than most about your computer does not change this fact ;)
 
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BobAndy

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Sep 3, 2006
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Yes, I've established the "PIO" "problem" and changing that to DMA unfortunately had no effect.

As for usage, it only sucks the fat one when using an optimal drive. Other dual-core related activities function normally and perfectly fine.

My voltages are set properly, as are my timings. I've even allowed everything to "set itself" and makes no difference.

I think it's the Jmicron IDE channel that is pooched... but we'll see on tuesday when I PHONE tech support, because I dont work well on email anymore :p
 
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Slammy1

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I warned many people not to build conroe until after theu worked out the bugs. The problem with these sorts of "revolutionary" changes is that drivers were tested against older hardware, and even buying latest/greatest will not guarantee fault-free operation. With my HT setup, I didn't get a truly stable system until earlier this year with one of the newer catalyst drivers. From 5/03 until then I had a buggy system. It was a hard lesson, so now that I'm becoming obsoleted my system's stable.
 
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Bobthelost

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Originally posted by: BobAndy
Yes, I've established the "PIO" "problem" and changing that to DMA unfortunately had no effect.

As for usage, it only sucks the fat one when using an optimal drive. Other dual-core related activities function normally and perfectly fine.

My voltages are set properly, as are my timings. I've even allowed everything to "set itself" and makes no difference.

I think it's the Jmicron IDE channel that is pooched... but we'll see on tuesday when I PHONE tech support, because I dont work well on email anymore :p
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If you had it under PIO and changed it you should see a hell of a difference when using the optical drive. Make sure it hasn't switched back again.

The RAM is covered by warranty up to 2.1V, while it's advertised on the OCZ site as 2.0V RAM and on newegg as 1.9V. Which one are you using?
 
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BobAndy

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Sep 3, 2006
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My volts are @ 2.

It appears to have switch back. Yar. I shall try to change it again (P.O.S.)
 
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Freze

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Is it me or are the 2 instances of this problem (this one and the one n7 linked to) both using the same motherboard. MSI 975X Platnium Powerup.

Maybe that is the problem?

It could also be the OS so try something like, if you have to opticals, using a linux live CD. Did it take longer than usual to instal Windows, that could explain if it is a hardware or software issue. I have never expirienced this problem, (and home never to need to expirience it,) but it probibly isn't that nice of a first impression about your new PC.
 
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