conroe, E6300/6400 vs E6600/6700

[confused1234]

hey i was trying to find benchmarks for the conroe which i found BUT they only tested the E6700. now i really dont have the money to buy that thing but does anyone have/know of the performance of the E6300/6400 and the overclockability of them? i know one difference between the 6300/6400 and 6600/6700 is that one has only 2mb of l2cache and the other has 4 mb of l2cache. will the lower end conroes make a big leap over my x2 4400+?

 

[Duvie]

Well most of the samples that are currently out there are ES (engineering samples) so they are basically every chip with a quick change of the multiplier.....I think some ppl may have tested lower speeds but I can't say that I remember where....

If anything they likely scale pretty well at this point....so E6700 is 2.66ghz and E6300 is 1.86ghz...you do the math....Bottom lne is a E6300 at 2.16ghz should be as fast at an FX60-62...E6600 and 2.4ghz will beat anything AMD has out currently...E6700 is just piling on the gravyu....


As for overclockability?? Only time will tell since these ES chips are likely cherry picked....Usually in the past even lower speed chips can hit the same ocing ceiling as the much more expensive chips....Obvious the market for E6700's will be smaller then E6400-6600...Intel will need less of them and if their procss is refined and they receive good yields then every chip is very likely capable of same clock speed of the highest speed produced chip...That being said remember the lower multiplier of the E6400-E6600 may limit OCs compare to high multi chips like E6700 and EE chips because they will require boards to run higher FSB, possibly need higher grade memory for this, or use dividers....


From what I hear is we should expect most decent ocing boards after a few bios upgrades to do 400fsb ....MOst of this hand picked ES chips have been doing 3.5-3.9ghz on air alone so that range with a 400fsb says the best chips to get top speed swill be the E6600 to E6700...

 

[theteamaqua]

965 cant pass 400fsb ... GA 965 DS3 can barely boot at 358 fsb. E6600 can only do 350 mhz pi 32m stalbe on that board.

so if u want to oc 975 or nforce500, rd600 are the ones u want. this is a nice strategy from intel , cuz if peo-ple want to oc, they have to get high end stuff ... i doubt we will ever see 965 oc as well as 975. hicookie in xs did show a pic of X6800 at 400fsb on GA 965 DQ6, but at only 8x multi ....

so if u get 965 boards . mutlipliers r crucial . i doubt there will be idiots out there who pair 965 with X6800 (exclude idiots who buy dell and run at stock speed)

one main attraction of conroe is its OC ability. Intel's 65nm's OC ability is incredible. At stock speed its not taht much faster than AMD X2s. so if u have X2s and dont like to OC, dont get conroe asa performance gain is not that significance.

 

[Just4Ever]

Can anyone tell me what theteamaqua means when he's talking about X6800? What about rd600? Thanks.

 

[theteamaqua]

i meant its a waste if u pair up X6800 with 965 mobos (although u can change the multiplier to 13 and acheieve 4GHz by 13x308fsb, but the again why would u do that?? if u r willing to shell out $1000 for a cpu, why not pay $100 more for a much better board) ok i meant its a waste to pair up a good CPU with a board that can OC well. Also runnoing conroe at stock speed is a waste , too.

heres what i think about each chipset:
RD600: best from what i heard. although it will be a while (1 to 2 months?) b4 u can buy it on newegg. (dont have to worry about fsbram ratio? <-- not sure)
975: best boards u can buy NOW. Intel 975XBX, Asus P5W DH, DFI infinity 975 (MSI 975 not for sell anywhere but taiwan) 975 bad axe is prolly the best all the world record r done on bad axe
965: wont oc as well as 975 . whats the point of buying 975 if 965 can oc as well besides crossfire??

 

[Ragnarok2]

http://www.behardware.com/articles/623-15/intel-core-2-duo-test.html

They make a huge leap over the FX-62's too

 

[confused1234]

thanks ragnarok, that finally made up my mind. come christmas im selling this 4400+, dfi nf4 ultra-d, 1 gig ram, and x850pro and building a conroe rig. its going to have rd600, E6400, obviously ddr-2 ram, and probably an x1900xt. hehe intel has converted an amd fanboy^_^

 

[NoStateofMind]

965: wont oc as well as 975 . whats the point of buying 975 if 965 can oc as well besides crossfire??

I beg to differ....enter exibit A:

Gigabyte Quad 6 OC'ing review

There are going to be some really good 965 OC'ing Mobo's

IIRC the only thing that the 975X has on the 965 is Crossfire/SLI support, not totally sure that all though.

 

[theteamaqua]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

965: wont oc as well as 975 . whats the point of buying 975 if 965 can oc as well besides crossfire??

I beg to differ....enter exibit A:

Gigabyte Quad 6 OC'ing review

There are going to be some really good 965 OC'ing Mobo's

IIRC the only thing that the 975X has on the 965 is Crossfire/SLI support, not totally sure that all though.

Thus, this 360MHz FSB overclock is certainly within reach of many as long you have the right components to pull it off.

thats why .. if u want 400fsb on conroe