Conroe at 5ghz does SuperPi 1m in 10 seconds

[Polish3d]

WOW!!!!

I think that's nearly 3X as fast as my X2 @ 2.7ghz

 

[Firsttime]

Thats 4x as fast as my Sempron 2600+@2.2ghz lol, but its most likely way more then 4x as much.

 

[fredhe12]

Just out of curiosity, and not being well versed in OCing, but what does this translate to in terms of practical performance. Do apps and games run better, faster, etc.? I'm just curious, I really don't have any interest in OCing, but I could be persuaded

 

[n7]

It also cost 3x your setup (for the cooling)

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: fredhe12
Just out of curiosity, and not being well versed in OCing, but what does this translate to in terms of practical performance. Do apps and games run better, faster, etc.? I'm just curious, I really don't have any interest in OCing, but I could be persuaded

I've read in several places that this tremendous SuperPI advantage unfortunately doesn't translate to nearly as much of an advantage in other apps (including games). I think Conroe is a nice step up for Intel but I'm not convinced enough to spend $$$ to buy a slight improvement over my 2.4GHz A64... I generally upgrade once performance is 2x of my current processor for the same price

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: n7
It also cost 3x your setup (for the cooling)

lol probably so, although that would be quite the pricey cooling system

 

[CrystalBay]

Even the stock 2.67 Conroe should do some impressive SPi times...

 

[ncage]

does super pi use both cores?

 

[Polish3d]

I dont think so

 

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: fredhe12
Just out of curiosity, and not being well versed in OCing, but what does this translate to in terms of practical performance. Do apps and games run better, faster, etc.?

Applications are pretty varied, but media encoding applications would be the ones that would likely see the best increases as they are very CPU power dependant (and dual core would be even better than just an overclocked single-core). Other applications such as email, http, and Office likely wouldn't be affected much (i.e. how much faster does a browser window really need to open?). As to exactly how much faster that divx movie would encode for you on an overclocked chip vs a non-overclocked chip... my question would be, how much of a difference would you *want* to notice? If it went from 3 hours down to 2.5 hours, would you care?

Running games faster/better is more directly related to video power rather than CPU power. However, this varies depending on resolution and settings. The mainstay in the past has been to benchmark games at 1024x768 with no graphical eye-candy in order to accentuate the power of one CPU vs another. Recent games have shown that, even at lower resolutions, CPU power (even dual core) doesn't affect performance much. At higher resolutions such as 1600x1200 and above with AA/AF, CPU speed/power plays almost no role in most cases.

Oblivion at 800x600
FEAR at 1024x768
COD2 at 1024x768

Obviously, there are no hard-and-fast rules and there are exceptions. Hexus recently showed Conroe whooping AM2 by 40% in Far Cry at 1024x768... but that gain drops to essentially 0% at 1600x1200 with AA/AF in Quake4.

So, depending on what resolution you play your games at (and what games you're playing), you likely won't see too much of a performance increase from overclocking your CPU. But it is nice to buy a 3000+ for $100 and overclock it to FX-57 speeds for free. It's certainly a much better deal than actually buying the FX-57 itself.

 

[Hakuryu]

Since Far Cry is Direct X and Quake 4 is OpenGL, doesnt that seem to give an advantage to the Conroe over AMD? Most game titles are Direct X based, so running 80% of your games at a 40% increase over AMD, and the other 20% of games at AMD speeds sounds like a benefit to gamers to buy the Conroe over AMD.

I'm not a cpu guru, so forgive me if I missed something obvious.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: Hakuryu
Since Far Cry is Direct X and Quake 4 is OpenGL, doesnt that seem to give an advantage to the Conroe over AMD? Most game titles are Direct X based, so running 80% of your games at a 40% increase over AMD, and the other 20% of games at AMD speeds sounds like a benefit to gamers to buy the Conroe over AMD.

I'm not a cpu guru, so forgive me if I missed something obvious.

I don't know if you've missed something becuase I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

 

[sportzforlife3]

yes^

 

[Chris2wire]

Until you have a gpu to match up, I doubt a 5gh Conroe is going to rock games anymore than cpus today do

 

[Bobthelost]

Originally posted by: Chris2wire
Until you have a gpu to match up, I doubt a 5gh Conroe is going to rock games anymore than cpus today do

But it'd speed up my DVD rips quite happily.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

My personal record is 28 seconds with my 3700+ clocked at 2.8 ghz and ram runnign 2-2-2-5. I only got to 32 secs with my Opteron @ 2.6 ghz...

but DAMNNNN this is insane...

 

[biff 24 2000]

that is one fast time for 1mil

 

[Ika]

haha, my SuperPi time is 1minute, 50 seconds on my P4 1.8. Guessing this would be a good time to upgrade...

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Firsttime
Thats 4x as fast as my Sempron 2600+@2.2ghz lol, but its most likely way more then 4x as much.

I guess that will make it ALOT faster then my Athlon XP M 2600+ @ 2.2GHz.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: Hakuryu
Since Far Cry is Direct X and Quake 4 is OpenGL, doesnt that seem to give an advantage to the Conroe over AMD? Most game titles are Direct X based, so running 80% of your games at a 40% increase over AMD, and the other 20% of games at AMD speeds sounds like a benefit to gamers to buy the Conroe over AMD.

I'm not a cpu guru, so forgive me if I missed something obvious.

Those numbers only work when u have good cards and play at low reso, why get an sli set up if ur gonna play at 1024 * 768 , so that u get 300fps, i mean whats the point. For games conroe offers nothing, as everything will mostly be gpu limited, at cpu tasks it will be quicker, but if u already have any dualcore, the diff is not worth the money u spend upgrading, unless u need absolutely the best, or doing some proffecional stuff, in which case u would probably need a multi cpu workstation.

games i play the x2 overclocked does nothing for performance over my single core 3200+ at stock, exactly the same frames. But with the dually encoding time are more than halved.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

i agree if had cash to spare i would get a conroe as soon as i could cuz i do a lot of media encoding (x264) and my opteron 165 at stock only gives me 5-10 fps on the settings i choose. but for games meh.... my bottleneck is my x800gt so i'd rather spend money on that.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Bobthelost

Originally posted by: Chris2wire
Until you have a gpu to match up, I doubt a 5gh Conroe is going to rock games anymore than cpus today do

But it'd speed up my DVD rips quite happily.

Rips? You mean from the DVD-ROM drive?

 

[rstrohkirch]

Originally posted by: Chris2wire
Until you have a gpu to match up, I doubt a 5gh Conroe is going to rock games anymore than cpus today do

Far superior physics then current gen would be nice

It doesn't even pertain to more on screen geometry...simply far more complicated collision models for all objects resulting in much more life like interaction

 

[Pariah]

Pretty impressive, but not that amazing. From the help file of SuperPi:

"By using single CPU of HITAC S-3800/480 vector supercomputer at the
computer centre, University of Tokyo can generate 1 Million decimal digits of pi within 5 seconds and 33.55 million decimal digits of pi within 4 minutes. How about your personal computer time?"

Now realize that these results are from 1995. So a ridiculously overclocked Conroe is almost within half the speed of the single cpu system this pi program was originally written for more than 10 years after it was built. So when Apple, Nvidia, or anyone else is claiming "recent supercomputer like" performance, the response should be, clearly not when comparing the performance of applications the super computer was designed to run.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: Pariah
Pretty impressive, but not that amazing. From the help file of SuperPi:

"By using single CPU of HITAC S-3800/480 vector supercomputer at the
computer centre, University of Tokyo can generate 1 Million decimal digits of pi within 5 seconds and 33.55 million decimal digits of pi within 4 minutes. How about your personal computer time?"

Now realize that these results are from 1995. So a ridiculously overclocked Conroe is almost within half the speed of the single cpu system this pi program was originally written for more than 10 years after it was built. So when Apple, Nvidia, or anyone else is claiming "recent supercomputer like" performance, the response should be, clearly not when comparing the performance of applications the super computer was designed to run.

:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

Any idea if they will be chucking away any "old" supercomputers, need one of those for my rig :laugh: