Connecting Windows 10 and Windows 7, direct ethernet

[ArisVer]

Trying to "Bridge connections" from my wifi adapter in Windows 10 gives this answer:
"To create a Network Bridge, you must select at least two LAN or High-Speed Internet connections that are not being used by Internet Connection Sharing."

And ICS is turned off.

 

[mxnerd]

Why do you need to bridge your WiFi adapter? Just plug it in and connect it to your WiFi router or Access Point.

Do not bridge your WiFi adapter and ethernet adapter.

 

[ArisVer]

That was per Jacks suggestions.

Anyway, the problem is half solved.
I uninstalled both the ethernet and wifi adapters from the device manager, rebooted both systems, let them auto configure, and after "fix my network connection" in Windows 7, the internet is working in Windows 7, shared by the wifi adapter ICS in Windows 10.

I still don't see the shares of each other. Does it matter that I have the same user name on both computers?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Computers are old, a Core2Duo and a workstation with a Xeon from that era. I have also tested with a straight cable. Both cables get ping answers, but with the crossover cable I can get in from Windows 10 to Windows 7. I can see the W7 shared disk but cannot access it, and I can see the users/public folder.



All I can see is listed above. Windows 7 cannot see anything and Windows 10 can see Windows 7 but cannot access it. Both computers can ping each other.
I used 192.168.1.x for the IPV4 settings of the 2 computers LAN addresses.
My home network (ZTE, Xiaomi, and wireless devices including the Windows 10 WiFi), are on 192.168.10.x addresses.

I think what I have are permissions going wrong.


@ch33zw1z
My apologies if my previous post sounded offensive.
I know i really need to change that repeater to a good 100$ device but now is not the time.

Personally, I don't care. I don't take offense, but thanks for the apology. I was busy for 14 hours yesterday with a couple data center machine down situations, so just making it back now.

My recommendations come straight from experience in 20 years of networking and hardware learning, education, real world experience, and professional support.

If you want something to work, and work well, then what I'm suggesting will be the most likely solution. I, myself, used a similar method to share internet over multiple floors of a house. Back then wireless n was just coming out, but the bridge between floors maintained a healthy 100mbps between devices. I built the network on both sides, and tried to limit heavy usage over the link such as high def streaming or file copies, as pushing that over wireless can make for some slowness progress. The router on one side provided all the DHCP, dns, and layer 3 services. I did not need to create additional lan subnets, which is what ICS is doing, so avoiding additional Nat or multiple port forwards to get in from the WAN.

Whatever you want to do, obviously up to you. If you're serious about it being both functional and useable, then you'll likely end up with 2 solid devices running a bridge between floors.

 

[VirtualLarry]

In my experience, using ICS is such a gross hack. Plus, I've read that with the additional multi-threading LAN driver support added post-XP, that ICS itself, doesn't work properly anymore, due to packets appearing out-of-order. In short, I would avoid ICS altogether, it's a band-aid, and you shouldn't use it. (Unless you're maybe sharing a dial-up modem connection with a LAN - in that case, you should really install a proper RAS server OS / Role, and go from there.)

You can buy wireless bridges, fairly inexpensively, in the USA. ($20-30 USD) I don't know how much they would be in your country. But if you get decent ones, they can be much more dependable than ICS ever will be.

Depending on the speed of your internet connection, you could purchase some routers that are compatible with DD-WRT or Tomato firmware, and use those.

I have a bunch of Netgear WNR2000v2 units, which are draft N300 spec, running DD-WRT.

You can also purchase Asus RT-N12/D1 N300 routers new for $20-30 USD (in USA, at least), and put Shibby Tomato on them, and set them up as wireless bridges.

Higher-end Asus units, like the venerable AC68U-family routers, can also use Asus' new "AiMesh" firmware, which sets up a transparent bridging / mesh environment. If you can afford them (they are $80-100 USD here *refurb*), then you could set up a really great mesh network.

 

[ArisVer]

I've been thinking after this thread started that maybe I have to try and fix the home network as you described, most likely put a wireless bridge (a good one) were the repeater now is. It might even be done next week, but don't take my word for it.

Even if I fix that, I still like to network these two computers, Windows 10 and Windows 7 (W10 & W7). The main reason been that I'd like to backup my W10 machine to a disk in W7 over ethernet.

The problem is, I do not see my disk shares. W7 doesn't see anything in the network, only itself.

From the network in W10, I can see the two shared disks of W7 but cannot really access them. I get:
"Windows cannot access \\CP4\Green1TB
You do not have permission to access \\CP4\Green1TB. Contact your network administrator to request access."
(CP4 is the W7 machine)

From W10 I can also see the \\CP4\Users\Public folder, in which I can write/read files, but I cannot backup the system there. I should have been able to see also the \\CP4\Users\username folder as that disk (W7 OS disk) is also shared.

File sharing is turned on, password protected sharing off, and both computers are without any user passwords.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Did you name both pcs "CP4" ?

 

[ArisVer]

No, the other (W10) is "hp0".

 

[ArisVer]

I have some news.
I had 2 power adapters laying around. I connected one to a LAN slot on my modem-router at ground floor, and the second one to the WAN port of the Tenda router in the room on the second floor (the repeater is still connected as it was on the first floor). Then added the two computers on the LAN ports of the Tenda. I have internet through the power adapters and the computers see each other in the lan.
Then I added different username and passwords on both computers and now I can get in my W10 shares from W7. However from W10 I can only see the public folder in the W7 machine. What am I doing wrong?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Power line adapters - glad they're working. We didn't discuss this, but is some cases work very well. You will want to config the tenda was a WAP., Not using the wan port, so avoiding another layer3 device in the network. You can still use the LAN ports as a switch while it's a WAP.

http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html

Or Google "router as WAP" for countless tutorials.

You need to focus on setting up shares. I would not try to share any of the users specific directories.

I tend to setup target folders for backups. Such as at c:\ create directory like w10_backup, then share that.