connecting two routers

[shantanuparadka]

hiii
m planning to play Counter strike on LAN. we all have laptops on which we are going to play so m going to use router as LAN.
i have Netgear WGR614v9 router. can i connect 6 computers on this router. i heard this router provides internet connection to 4 devices but can it connect 6 computers when internet connection is unplugged??

if it doesn't connect 6 computers can any body tell me how to connect 6 or more computer with two routers (each capable of connecting 4 PC).

 

[Texashiker]

Go to the local wal-mart, best buy or some other electronics store and get a switch or a hub.

When you start connecting routers, things can get a little complicated. Its going to be much easier if you just get a Networking Switch.

Run a cat-5 cable between one of the lan ports of the router to the switch, then plug the other computers into the switch.

My home netgear router has a built in 4 port switch, and then I have another 4 port switch plugged into the router.

 

[shantanuparadka]

thanks for ur reply
is it necessary to put a switch in between?? only a cable connecting two can do the job??
i don't want to purchase anything for one day thats why.....

 

[jlazzaro]

thanks for ur reply
is it necessary to put a switch in between?? only a cable connecting two can do the job??
i don't want to purchase anything for one day thats why.....

you would need to convert one of those routers into a switch. see http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html

essentially, disable DHCP on the second router, assign an unused IP address, and connect the two routers using the LAN (NOT WAN) ports. if these are older routers that do not support Auto MDIX, you will need a Cat5e crossover cable to connect them together.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I hate to be a party pooper, but the WGR614v9 is a WiFi router - you don't need to cable anything, just have all the laptop users connect to WiFi.

 

[jlazzaro]

I hate to be a party pooper, but the WGR614v9 is a WiFi router - you don't need to cable anything, just have all the laptop users connect to WiFi.

for a LAN party, wireless anything is likely going to be poo

 

[dave_the_nerd]

for a LAN party, wireless anything is likely going to be poo

15ms ping instead of 7ms? Humbug.

If you can play it over the internet, you can play it over WiFi. Just make sure you're in the same room as the router and don't run the microwave.

 

[spidey07]

15ms ping instead of 7ms? Humbug.

If you can play it over the internet, you can play it over WiFi. Just make sure you're in the same room as the router and don't run the microwave.

Wireless introduces jitter and only gets worse the more users there are.

Use hard wired.

 

[imagoon]

thanks for ur reply
is it necessary to put a switch in between?? only a cable connecting two can do the job??
i don't want to purchase anything for one day thats why.....

You use the switch with only one router.

 

[shantanuparadka]

15ms ping instead of 7ms? Humbug.

If you can play it over the internet, you can play it over WiFi. Just make sure you're in the same room as the router and don't run the microwave.

i didn't get what u saying. does that mean i can connect 6 computers to my current router (without internet connection)?? and tell me how to disable the running for microwave

to all : my knowledge about computers is not good so plz explain it in detail

thanks all of u for replying

 

[Emulex]

don't use the built in switch on routers. they suck. my hdhomerun can take them out. they are more than switches - they can do alot of tricks IN SOFTWARE - so when you start blasting traffic or care about latency they add latency. cheap gigabit switch does miracles since its sole job is to move data around fast.

 

[bobdole369]

i didn't get what u saying. does that mean i can connect 6 computers to my current router (without internet connection)?? and tell me how to disable the running for microwave

to all : my knowledge about computers is not good so plz explain it in detail

thanks all of u for replying

Whipping you something up here:



WGR614v9 (and goddamn that router is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE) has 4 ports labeled:
LAN 1,2,3,4

Each of those 4 ports can be connected to client computers (LAN party gamer laptops)

It also has a port labeled:
WAN 1

It can only be connected to an internet gateway (cable modem). In "certain" routers you can turn off the gateway function and assign that port to the LAN side. Even if you CAN on this router, don't do that.

Buy a new "switch" from a big box. Don't buy a second router. If you have a second router with ports, you "could" substitute this for a new switch, but don't do that. Do it right and get a new switch, should be 12 ports+ gigabit.

Connect any port on the new switch to any LAN port on the WGR614v9.
Connect all workstations to the new switch.

Or just use wireless.

 

[jlazzaro]

don't use the built in switch on routers. they suck. my hdhomerun can take them out. they are more than switches - they can do alot of tricks IN SOFTWARE - so when you start blasting traffic or care about latency they add latency. cheap gigabit switch does miracles since its sole job is to move data around fast.

i call bullshit, provide specific examples or documentation. what "tricks" is the router doing when the switch is forwarding frames between 2 switchports?

 

[bobdole369]

i call bullshit, provide specific examples or documentation. what "tricks" is the router doing when the switch is forwarding frames between 2 switchports?

Especially considering an ASIC runs the switch. It's just "examine header for MAC" - packet go this way. "examine header for MAC" - packet go that way. No way they waste any precious CPU on that. That being said - poor implementations can easily get overwhelmed. It is after all just an ASIC.

 

[morkman100]

The OP's head just exploded after reading these last posts...

 

[JackMDS]

I like threads like this.

Every one trying to show how smart they are disregarding the apparent knowledge level as coming across by the OP.

It is OK to do this when the OP is Spidey (cause none of us measures to his level of knowledge), but what you guys want from the innocent OP who his Not a "Master Plumber" and want some help.

@shantanuparadka

Wireless Routers have 4 wire ports and Wireless capacity.

The Wire ports can be extended by using an additional switch. Altogether more than hundred computers can be connected to a Wireless Router.

However just like on the road the more the quality of the traffic varies according to the quality of the road and the number of cars using it.

While 6 people can play OK if they are all connected with wire they can not reasonably play if connected Wireless (that is the nature of the Wireless medium).

If the game is based on sever that is on the Internet there is an additional factor of the "Speed" and quality of the Internet connection (I can not comment on yours cause you did not provided any additional info).

 

[Emulex]

Especially considering an ASIC runs the switch. It's just "examine header for MAC" - packet go this way. "examine header for MAC" - packet go that way. No way they waste any precious CPU on that. That being said - poor implementations can easily get overwhelmed. It is after all just an ASIC.

except when the traffic (multicast/broadcast) gets fed into the switch which reboots the router and crashes both (hdhomerun). alot of these switches are fancy - they do vlans (assing wan port to lan to add extra port, QOS by mac priority,etc) you can't tell me the asics are doing all that work.

but yeah some are better than others but the fallacy is the switch isn't a simple no frills gigabit switch that doesn't have any connection to the router so if the router crashes you don't take out switching and vice versa. no vlan's - no qos on mac - just cheap segmentation from the router.

 

[shantanuparadka]

Wireless Routers have 4 wire ports and Wireless capacity.

The Wire ports can be extended by using an additional switch. Altogether more than hundred computers can be connected to a Wireless Router.

However just like on the road the more the quality of the traffic varies according to the quality of the road and the number of cars using it.

While 6 people can play OK if they are all connected with wire they can not reasonably play if connected Wireless (that is the nature of the Wireless medium).

If the game is based on sever that is on the Internet there is an additional factor of the "Speed" and quality of the Internet connection (I can not comment on yours cause you did not provided any additional info).

thanks it was very usefull. m not going to play over internet coz me and my frnd will be seating at my home so its better if we play on lan directly.


now in the same way can u or anybody tell me how to put a switch?? i have another router but don't have switch.

 

[shantanuparadka]

i mean tell me in simple language don't use technical terms coz i don't have knowledge about computers like u guys have.

 

[JackMDS]

If you have another Router you can use it if configured this way.

Using a Wireless Router as a switch with an Access Point - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html

 

[mvbighead]

i mean tell me in simple language don't use technical terms coz i don't have knowledge about computers like u guys have.

To use a switch, you pretty much buy one, and plug it in.

Plug one cable into your router and that will assign addresses for those connected to your network, and then just plug a network cable for each computer into the switch. Done. That easy.

 

[shantanuparadka]

thanks all for help. i sorted out this issue

what i done is that i went to my frnds place who has router with my router and laptop.
i inserted a wire in one of the 4 LAN port of his router and another end of it inserted into my Ethernet plug of router. thats it
we even played few games on it and it was fine in performance. though not as good as when its on only one router but definitely it was playable.

 

[bobdole369]

it was fine in performance. though not as good as when its on only one router but definitely it was playable.

You did not notice any change in performance. Even your PC wouldn't notice that you were using an uplinked switch.