Congresswoman to Google CEO: Why when I search ‘idiot’ do I get pictures of Trump? Claims conspiracy.

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It's hilarious that even after it is explained and demonstrated how the search algorithms work, how complex they are, and how no single man or small group can manipulate the results, GOP congresspeople STILL insist it's being done... with zero evidence to support it and the evidence to refute it right in front of them.

Trump shows up when you search "idiot" because out of everyone in the world, more people are calling him an idiot and using i"idiot" tag their pictures of Trump, etc than any other single person on earth. He shows up because hundreds of millions of people are actively calling him an idiot.

You don't need to manipulate shit for that. Popularity and relevance is how the complex algorithms work.

Why is it when reality doesn't jibe with a conservative's worldview, it's suddenly a conspiracy?

Idiots. Smocking idiots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...th5D_oDhsbbUwRDo-ZQ91Q&utm_term=.14b31f303295
 

Jhhnn

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Why does Trump come up so much when I google "idiot"?

Because most people think he's an idiot.

Lofgren teed it up but Pichai declined to smack it down the fairway.

The GOP'ers want to make it into a conspiracy theory, of course.
 

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If it doesn’t make sense to conservatives, just craft a conspiracy theory which will settle their heightened levels of cognitive dissonance, at least until reality slaps them in the face again
 
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cytg111

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Arh, when vermin commits the self 0wnage it is just extra sweet.. mmmmm.. Could he not have baited her further? Have a focus group in the background doing realtime tagging on the session, have her google dimwit before and after and see a picture of herself?
 

Jhhnn

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Arh, when vermin commits the self 0wnage it is just extra sweet.. mmmmm.. Could he not have baited her further? Have a focus group in the background doing realtime tagging on the session, have her google dimwit before and after and see a picture of herself?

Please. She knew what she was doing. She trolled the GOP rather nicely.

"Who, me? I was just asking a question."
 
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How does anyone not know the internet is a negative place? The answer is not even Congress critters are that stupid.
 

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It's hilarious that even after it is explained and demonstrated how the search algorithms work, how complex they are, and how no single man or small group can manipulate the results, GOP congresspeople STILL insist it's being done... with zero evidence to support it and the evidence to refute it right in front of them.

Trump shows up when you search "idiot" because out of everyone in the world, more people are calling him an idiot and using i"idiot" tag their pictures of Trump, etc than any other single person on earth. He shows up because hundreds of millions of people are actively calling him an idiot.

You don't need to manipulate shit for that. Popularity and relevance is how the complex algorithms work.

Why is it when reality doesn't jibe with a conservative's worldview, it's suddenly a conspiracy?

Idiots. Smocking idiots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...th5D_oDhsbbUwRDo-ZQ91Q&utm_term=.14b31f303295
And when Pichai had to dumb it down to explain to these Luddite Repubs, they still didn't believe it.
They still think that wizard is directing the google searches for political gain.

"But Smith did not accept that explanation, telling Pichai: “Let me just say, I disagree. "

"But Chabot wasn’t having it. He told Pichai that conservatives believe Google is “picking winners and losers in political discourse.”
“There’s a lot of people that think what I’m saying here is happening,” Chabot said. “And I think it’s happening.”

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And yes, Zoe Lofgren was trolling the repubs with her "question" in reference to the wizard of oz.
For those that don't know, she's the House Rep for most of Sillicon Valley
 
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Hey, OP, could you change the thread title? The current one makes it sound like the congresswoman was the one claiming conspiracy, when she was more using that just as an example (which, hahahaha) for the Google people to explain how search results work, for the idiot Republicans who were the ones actually claiming conspiracy.
 
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Funny thing is, when I search for 'Trump' I get pictures of an idiot.

Edit - actually, seriously, maybe he's not an idiot. It's hard to resist that way of looking at it, but, as with Dubya (who also didn't appear the sharpest tool in the box) appearances can be deceptive, and dumbness might be another kind of smart. Don't you just have to judge such things by results in the end? None of Reagan, Dubya or Trump come over as intellectuals, but they all were capable of beating supposedly-clever Democrats when it came to it.

It is so tempting though. And it seems obvious that if any of those three had not been white their lack of orthodox articulacy (in Reagan's case more apparent towards the end) would have been interpreted very differently by Republican voters. I have mixed feelings about it.
 
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Jhhnn

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And when Pichai had to dumb it down to explain to these Luddite Repubs, they still didn't believe it.
They still think that wizard is directing the google searches for political gain.

"But Smith did not accept that explanation, telling Pichai: “Let me just say, I disagree. "

"But Chabot wasn’t having it. He told Pichai that conservatives believe Google is “picking winners and losers in political discourse.”
“There’s a lot of people that think what I’m saying here is happening,” Chabot said. “And I think it’s happening.”

They can all snuggle up under the mantle of imagined right wing persecution with the Donald. It's also clear that Pichai just wants to get past their bullshit as smoothly as possible. He could have challenged them with "What would you suggest we do to make it work differently?" just to make 'em sweat. I mean, he knows they think the internet is a connection of tubes.
 

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It's hilarious that even after it is explained and demonstrated how the search algorithms work, how complex they are, and how no single man or small group can manipulate the results, GOP congresspeople STILL insist it's being done... with zero evidence to support it and the evidence to refute it right in front of them.

Trump shows up when you search "idiot" because out of everyone in the world, more people are calling him an idiot and using i"idiot" tag their pictures of Trump, etc than any other single person on earth. He shows up because hundreds of millions of people are actively calling him an idiot.



You don't need to manipulate shit for that. Popularity and relevance is how the complex algorithms work.

Why is it when reality doesn't jibe with a conservative's worldview, it's suddenly a conspiracy?

Idiots. Smocking idiots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...th5D_oDhsbbUwRDo-ZQ91Q&utm_term=.14b31f303295

You should fix your title. The congresswoman was trolling the Rs by asking a mocking, absurdist question and to get the Google CEO into the Congressional record commenting on how his algorithms have determined Trump is an idiot.

A troll that was hilariously effective

bbc Trump idiot.png
idiot Trump.png
 
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Sonikku

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It's hilarious that even after it is explained and demonstrated how the search algorithms work, how complex they are, and how no single man or small group can manipulate the results, GOP congresspeople STILL insist it's being done... with zero evidence to support it and the evidence to refute it right in front of them.

Trump shows up when you search "idiot" because out of everyone in the world, more people are calling him an idiot and using i"idiot" tag their pictures of Trump, etc than any other single person on earth. He shows up because hundreds of millions of people are actively calling him an idiot.

You don't need to manipulate shit for that. Popularity and relevance is how the complex algorithms work.

Why is it when reality doesn't jibe with a conservative's worldview, it's suddenly a conspiracy?

Idiots. Smocking idiots.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...th5D_oDhsbbUwRDo-ZQ91Q&utm_term=.14b31f303295
Didn't people manipulate Google's algorithm years ago that made it so googling "Failure" or "miserable failure" turned up nothing but pictures of George Bush?
 

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That whole hearing was like watching a (good) SNL skit. Some of the gold these guys were mindlessly dropping:

"Why do you have to go to the third page before you find anyone saying anything good about HB 1234"

"Uh... Because people aren't saying good things about your shittt bill"

"It's a CONSPIRACY"

What's sad is the red meat is likely drawing in conservative/Evangelical folks with a persecution complex. Doesn't help that Google is obviously run by a illegal immigrant terrorist.
 
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Dammit, now when you google "idiot" you don't get Trump anymore. Instead, you get a story about a GOP Congresswoman who's pissed that Trump comes up when you Google idiot. It was totally right and she ruined it.
 
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Dammit, now when you google "idiot" you don't get Trump anymore. Instead, you get a story about a GOP Congresswoman who's pissed that Trump comes up when you Google idiot. It was totally right and she ruined it.
the congresswoman was a Democrat and likely playing her Republican counterparts for fools

The question came from Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), who was trying to refute the idea that Google is politically manipulating search results. “Right now, if you google the word ‘idiot’ under images, a picture of Donald Trump comes up. I just did that,” she said. “How would that happen?”
 
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the congresswoman was a Democrat and likely playing her Republican counterparts for fools

Right you are. I'm guilty of reading the OP without reading the linked article. In any event, I'm still annoyed that Trump no longer comes up when you Google idiot. His picture should be next to the word as it appears in dictionary.