Congress has "checked out" and the American people demand new leaders

Oldgamer

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Congress has checked out, and the American people have noticed.

Three-quarters of Americans doubt the federal government will address the important problems facing the country this year, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll.

All told, only 28 percent of Americans think the nation is heading in the right direction, the lowest level in August of an election year since 2008. It's about on par with 2006, when Democrats took control of the U.S. House amid a backlash to the Iraq war.

This time around, it's not clear whether either party will benefit from the disaffection.

One-third say they hope the Republicans take control of Congress outright this fall — which the GOP can accomplish with a net gain of six seats in the U.S. Senate while holding the U.S. House. The same share want to see Democrats lead Congress — a far less likely possibility.

The final third? They say it just doesn't matter who takes control of Congress.

Overall, just 13 percent of Americans approve of the way Congress overall is handling its job.

There are some signs in the new poll that Republicans have gained ground as the height of the campaign approaches. In May, they trailed Democrats a bit on who ought to control Congress. Partisans are about equally likely to say they'd like to see their own in charge of Congress after November 4, with about three-quarters in each party saying they hope their side winds up in control. Democrats are a bit less apt to say they want their own party to win than they were in May, 74 percent in the new poll compared with 80 percent then.

And the GOP now holds narrow advantages over Democrats on handling an array of top issues, including the economy, immigration and the federal budget.

But neither party is trusted much to manage the federal government, with 27 percent having faith in the GOP to 24 percent in Democrats. More people, 31 percent, say they trust neither party to run the federal government.

Fewer people have confidence in the federal government's ability to make progress on the important problems and issues facing the country in 2014 than at the start of the year, with 74 percent saying they have little or no confidence. That's a slight change from the 70 percent who said so in a December AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research survey. That shift in confidence stems from a small drop-off among Democrats. While 56 percent lacked confidence in December, 62 percent say the same now.

Overall, few express faith in those currently on Capitol Hill. Just 36 percent say they'd like to see their own member of Congress re-elected, 62 percent say they want someone else to win this November. So far, just three House incumbents have been ousted in primaries this year, and none in the Senate. The Congressional approval rating, 13 percent in the new poll, lags behind President Barack Obama's 40 percent.

Though the economy pushed the nation's "right direction" figures to historic lows in the fall of 2008, that does not seem to be the culprit in the new poll. About a third (35 percent) say the economy is in good shape, about the same as in May, and 58 percent say the economy has stayed about the same in the past month.

The decline in optimism about the country's path in the new poll seems to mirror those in October 2013 and August 2011, when congressional inaction led to the threat of a government shutdown in 2011 and a partial one in 2013. Among Democrats, the share saying the nation is heading in the right direction dipped 11 points since May, to 49 percent, while among independents, it's down slightly to 23 percent. Among Republicans, the 9 percent saying the country is heading the right way is similar to May. The October 2013 and August 2011 declines in right direction were also driven by sharp drops among Democrats and independents.

Among those who say they are highly likely to vote this fall, just 8 percent say they approve of the way Congress is handling its job, though 43 percent would like to see their member of Congress re-elected, a bit higher than among all adults. Republicans have an edge among this group as the party more preferred to control Congress, 43 percent to 34 percent, with 23 percent saying it doesn't matter.

The AP-GfK Poll was conducted July 24-28, 2014, using KnowledgePanel, GfK's probability-based online panel designed to be representative of the U.S. population. It involved online interviews with 1,044 adults and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points for all respondents. It is larger for subgroups.

Respondents were first selected randomly using phone or mail survey methods and were later interviewed online. People selected for KnowledgePanel who didn't otherwise have access to the Internet were provided with the ability to access the Internet at no cost to them.

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Yea, I pretty much agree with most of this. Not surprising people feel this way..
 

Pr0d1gy

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None of us think Congress is working properly. I know, let's put more of the same groups in there, that will fix everything!
 
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I agree, at first I used to say its the damn Tea Party/Republicans that were afraid to help Obama. This is still true but regardless this is reality. I find it difficult to understand why compromise can't be reached on anything until its a critical matter. Why is it so difficult to throw the R's a bone with chained CPI and in return get something you want?
I also despise how nearly all Politicians avoid difficult subjects like tax reform because no matter how it is handled someone will pay more or lose a benefit. They are terrified of losing even one vote so they all stick with doing nothing. Sickening!
 

Genx87

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And lucky for the American people we have an election in 3 months that can toss these deadbeats out. But how many here believe the American people will do such a thing?
 

theeedude

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And lucky for the American people we have an election in 3 months that can toss these deadbeats out. But how many here believe the American people will do such a thing?

And replace them with who? Other even worse deadbeats or tea party anarchists.
 

Genx87

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And replace them with who? Other even worse deadbeats or tea party anarchists.

Perhaps it is time for 3rd party candidates to become viable to the American people. Right now they seem so hell bent on insanity. That is keep electing the same two parties, get the same dismal results, and then complain about it.
 

theeedude

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Perhaps it is time for 3rd party candidates to become viable to the American people. Right now they seem so hell bent on insanity. That is keep electing the same two parties, get the same dismal results, and then complain about it.

Democrats are complaining because their party is obstructed by the other party, not because it gets dismal results when it gets its way.
Things are on the mend here in CA once the voters took away GOP's power to obstruct and made them a tiny minority.
 

OverVolt

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I don't think they checked out I think they aged out. They're so old.... soooooo oldd. I get that you can work until your 70's as a senator but I really don't think their ability to absorb new information and adapt and be spry and make decisions based of changing information are just there. They need to retire. Respect your elders and all that. They deserve it. They should be in warm climate somewhere taking it easy and they need to bring in new leaders.
 

waggy

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And replace them with who? Other even worse deadbeats or tea party anarchists.

you can fill it with tea party, deadbeats, gop, dems whatever. in the end though? it won't matter.


nothing will change.
 

waggy

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So you aren't going to vote then?

honestly i have gotten to the point i feel its a waste. I have voted in EVERY election since i was 18. I honestly believed that it was my duty and something needed for this country.

after seeing how many GOP and Dems are once in power? how it seems the country has gone from "we the people" to "us the corporations". those in power would rather cater to those that donate in huge sums then the working class.

It really does not matter who is office. the only difference is what huge lobby is going to get the benefits.
 

Genx87

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Democrats are complaining because their party is obstructed by the other party, not because it gets dismal results when it gets its way.
Things are on the mend here in CA once the voters took away GOP's power to obstruct and made them a tiny minority.

Yes yes let the insanity continue.
 

feralkid

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honestly i have gotten to the point i feel its a waste. I have voted in EVERY election since i was 18. I honestly believed that it was my duty and something needed for this country.

after seeing how many GOP and Dems are once in power? how it seems the country has gone from "we the people" to "us the corporations". those in power would rather cater to those that donate in huge sums then the working class.

It really does not matter who is office. the only difference is what huge lobby is going to get the benefits.



When things get tough, you give up and stop voting?

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Genx87

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Yes, continue to deny that many liberal policies actually work in practice.

If you are referring to California. I find that an interesting stance to take. They balanced their budget by cutting education and welfare services. That doesn't seem to be a very liberal policy to me. But that is really besides the point of this article and a duhversion. Which is people of this country are fed up with our federal govt but wont vote to change said federal govt.
 

dank69

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If you are referring to California. I find that an interesting stance to take. They balanced their budget by cutting education and welfare services. That doesn't seem to be a very liberal policy to me. But that is really besides the point of this article and a duhversion. Which is people of this country are fed up with our federal govt but wont vote to change said federal govt.
That's because the "tax and spend" liberal is a figment of your fucking imagination. Anyone that doesn't agree that taxes need to be cut is automatically labeled "tax and spend" by the insane right wing, which includes every single self-identified "fiscal conservative."

"The people of this country" as you call them are low-information, easily manipulated blowhards.
 
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Genx87

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That's because the "tax and spend" liberal is a figment of your fucking imagination. Anyone that doesn't agree that taxes need to be cut is automatically labeled "tax and spend" by the insane right wing, which includes every single self-identified "fiscal conservative."

So cutting welfare and education is a liberal policy?


"The people of this country" as you call them are low-information, easily manipulated blowhards.

We both agree on that. After all they keep electing democrats and republicans and expecting a different result.
 

Newell Steamer

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I would hope the insanity is washed away - but, in the last few years, it exists and is present in full force.

The comments on female rape, by the GOP are just deplorable,.. yet, haven't gotten anyone fired or booted.
 

zinfamous

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Today is the 40 year anniversary of Nixon resigning the presidency. NPR was doing a small story, playing some brief clips of the weeks leading up to that day--the impeachment hearings, particularly.

During the initial vote for impeachment, it was perceived, within Congress, as a very solemn affair. The charges of obstruction could not be denied, and as votes were cast, members of COngress were literally in tears, voting "yes."

And not in a partisan manner: Democrats and republicans alike, visibly shaken that this high crime had happened and they had no other choice but to cast this vote against what was, likely to them, this storied position. The pinnacle of what they all, individually, hoped to achieve. They seemed like serious individuals, honestly trying to serve the people that elected them, to do good things, regardless of their social/economic perspectives, so visibly torn by the very serious, very real crimes committed by the COMmander in Chief.

fast forward a couple of decades, and look at the vitriol in trying to impeach Clinton for doing, essentially nothing wrong. The gleeful scraping at the bottom of the dustbin to pin on him the slightest minutia of procedural tomfoolerly and classify him as the greatest political criminal since Nixon, worthy of the same grand ouster. the self-satisfaction of voting to impeach--a meanginless display of political self-service, already known that it would amount to nothing, but merely a ploy to engender more votes form the same brain-sucking plebians that had already elected them to do nothing more worthwhile than redraw their voting districts, vote to rename airports after their personal political heroes, and vote for their own salary raises.

Indeed, it has long checked-out. Congress has never been perfect, but how the fuck did it get so bad?
 

smackababy

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Saying Clinton didn't do anything wrong is a dishonesty and you know it. He openly stated he did not have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky while under oath. That is a crime, regardless of whether I give a shit who he puts his dick it. That was the reason they were calling for impeachment. Had he just said "well, I let her blow me," and been done with it, it would have been fine.

Now, I am not condoning the imbeciles that were claiming he was Nixon-esque and such, just that he wasn't exactly innocent of any law breaking.