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*confused* why is it ok for US to have WMD when Iraq can't
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It really isn't a dye job. That settles that question.
The treaty with the former USSR dealt with anti-ballistic missiles, not nuclear weapons.
ABM treaty
nmcglennon
Golden Member
America invented the friggin' nuke, and we don't want them in the terrorist hotbed of the world in the hands of a dictator who has an itchy trigger finger and is so likely to sell his old WMD when he gets his shiny new nukes. As far as oil... assuming we take over Iraq for oil interests, and establish a new government there, the Iraqis will not vote us in there to protect them... same thing happened with the Brits and Iraqis rejected them in 1917. America does not want anyone with opposition to them to have nukes... and they arent alone... no nation wants a nuclear threat... you can say this is stupid all you want, but America is protecting her people, however ignorant and 'anti-war' they may be.
Why don't we go after N Korea you say? Well because for one thing if we forced a war over there, it would be brutal and cost millions of lives. N Korea has already built tunnels underneath the DMZ into S Korea with their special forces doing invasion drills daily. S Korea would be in a world of hurt as well as our 1st calvary. If N Korea used WMD, the effects would trickle down into S Korea (China's main trading partner) and Northern Japan. Not only that, but N Korea is lead by a militant wacko who is at the end of his reign anyhow, and N Koreans are scared to back this guy, and dont want to be nuked anyhow. People cay China will be brought into this war, but I dont think so. China is closer with S Korea these days than with their old communist buddy N Korea. Cold war is over kiddies, China is going for trade, not communism. They arent going to be involved, especially when WMD are inlvolved.
Why don't we go after N Korea you say? Well because for one thing if we forced a war over there, it would be brutal and cost millions of lives. N Korea has already built tunnels underneath the DMZ into S Korea with their special forces doing invasion drills daily. S Korea would be in a world of hurt as well as our 1st calvary. If N Korea used WMD, the effects would trickle down into S Korea (China's main trading partner) and Northern Japan. Not only that, but N Korea is lead by a militant wacko who is at the end of his reign anyhow, and N Koreans are scared to back this guy, and dont want to be nuked anyhow. People cay China will be brought into this war, but I dont think so. China is closer with S Korea these days than with their old communist buddy N Korea. Cold war is over kiddies, China is going for trade, not communism. They arent going to be involved, especially when WMD are inlvolved.
you think that because im a girl i don't know about politics and i don't have political thoughts and ideas?
i don't like nuclear weapons for ANY country on this planet and the fact that the united states is running around trying to inforce this by telling countries that are threats that they are going to flatten everything me sick. And then the american people won't even recognize all the ulterior agendas that are running here, this is in not at all an alturistic situation with the united states SAVING the world from terrorism and the evil saddam, its about money, oil and american companies.
call me a bleeding heart liberal, i don't care. but don't call me a stupid blond like i don't know whats going on in the world.
i don't get into these political debates with americans because typically americans have their heads so far up their asses from watching so much cnn that they won't even consider the view points of others.
i don't like nuclear weapons for ANY country on this planet and the fact that the united states is running around trying to inforce this by telling countries that are threats that they are going to flatten everything me sick. And then the american people won't even recognize all the ulterior agendas that are running here, this is in not at all an alturistic situation with the united states SAVING the world from terrorism and the evil saddam, its about money, oil and american companies.
call me a bleeding heart liberal, i don't care. but don't call me a stupid blond like i don't know whats going on in the world.
i don't get into these political debates with americans because typically americans have their heads so far up their asses from watching so much cnn that they won't even consider the view points of others.
Because we were not defeated on the field of battle and forced to sign a ceasefire treaty which limited our soverignty to keep our current government.
During the Gulf War we had the forces to go in and remove Saddam from power but the Sr. Bush Administration was naieve enought to believe that the UN would be able to keep Saddam in check, also we wanted the quick win and didnt want to be painted as bloodthristy by the idiotic liberals who were already bitching about the "highway of death" thing.
One of the terms of the ceasefire was that Saddam would eliminate his WMD and not continue research into them and long range missiles. If Saddam doesnt comply with the terms of the ceasefire it effectively means that we are in the right if we renew hositilites.
I dont understand how anti-war protesters can be saying that war against Iraq is illegal?
If you break a ceasefire treaty it means thats the war is back on, what dont they get about that?
During the Gulf War we had the forces to go in and remove Saddam from power but the Sr. Bush Administration was naieve enought to believe that the UN would be able to keep Saddam in check, also we wanted the quick win and didnt want to be painted as bloodthristy by the idiotic liberals who were already bitching about the "highway of death" thing.
One of the terms of the ceasefire was that Saddam would eliminate his WMD and not continue research into them and long range missiles. If Saddam doesnt comply with the terms of the ceasefire it effectively means that we are in the right if we renew hositilites.
I dont understand how anti-war protesters can be saying that war against Iraq is illegal?
If you break a ceasefire treaty it means thats the war is back on, what dont they get about that?
Ah and all canadians are free from rectal cranial inversion. If you for one second thought it was only about oil, you would realize we could easily invade Canada, Venezuala, Saudi, Mexico or convince the liberal to drill in Alaska and in the Gulf of Mexico. We would get oil resources with much less risk.
Have you even considered the ulterior motives motives behind France, Germany, Russia or China not wanting us to go to Iraq. Oil is a factor, but far from the only factor.
France - They have oil contracts with Iraq.
Germany - They have various contracts with IRaq.
Russia - Big time oil contracts with Iraq, plus debt that Iraq owes them.
China- Sells sh!ts loads of weapons systems to Iraq.
So when you decide to pull you head out of your back end, try not to say the US is the only one involved in acting in its self interests for only oil.
Tripleshot
Elite Member
I am amused that Iraq and N. Korea and other would be threats don't seem to realize we have the most powerful and largest arament of live nuclear warheads programmed to wipe out targets of each of these threats,and they can be re programmed in short order,at will, for anyone else. GPS is great for the military.
That is deterance. We are not offensive players. Even now, with our war drums beating, it is on a defensive, pre imptive status we base our resolve.
I just don't understand how that very real threat we have does not sway these rogue despots to change their ways. D othey have a death wish? Are they suicidal? They must be loco, or damn stupid, because even if they don't have as sophisticated an inteligence agency as we or Russia or Britain or France, or China, these current chowderheads don't seem to have a clue as to how close they are to becoming vapor, and a footnote in history.
They act like children playing on a freeway. its just a matter of time before a tragic hit takes place.
That is deterance. We are not offensive players. Even now, with our war drums beating, it is on a defensive, pre imptive status we base our resolve.
I just don't understand how that very real threat we have does not sway these rogue despots to change their ways. D othey have a death wish? Are they suicidal? They must be loco, or damn stupid, because even if they don't have as sophisticated an inteligence agency as we or Russia or Britain or France, or China, these current chowderheads don't seem to have a clue as to how close they are to becoming vapor, and a footnote in history.
They act like children playing on a freeway. its just a matter of time before a tragic hit takes place.
thomsbrain
Lifer
because we don't use our weapons to invade countries and take control of them. oh wait. 😉
markuskidd
Senior member
Hardly. It's much less risky to invade Iraq if it's for oil, since Saddam's government is much less credible. If we were to attack Canada, the rest of the world would band together against the United States in order to protect themselves. Whereas with Iraq, if someone wanted to, it would be a lot easier to muster support or at least permission for the US to attack. Your argument is baseless. Try again.
Hmm well the US has not had to go to war with Israel, nor has Israel broken any ceasefire treaty with us.
Also Israel (along with Pakistan and India) never signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT), so they havent given up thier right to nuclear weapon.
I dont know if they signed the similar treaty for chemical and biological weapons, but I've not heard of Israel having them anyways.
It's not because you are a girl but because of what you have posted in this thread that I am admiring your blondeness.
When you post something that proves you actually have a clue as to what is going on in the world then I won't feel the urge to point out that your roots are showing.
As long as you keep posting things like "the fact that the united states is running around trying to inforce this by telling countries that are threats that they are going to flatten everything me sick. ", I am going to assume that you don't have a clue because there is not one "fact" in that statement.
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