Confused, I5 4460 or I5 4690?

[Mohamed_Hesham]

Hey there, im confused between buying the Intel Core I5-4460 Haswell 3.2GHz and the Intel Core I5-4690 Haswell 3.5GHz, I also dont plan on over clocking the difference between them is 41.8$here in Egypt,I was wondering are the 300 MHz worth the 55 dollars? I also plan on using it for gaming running heavy games like AC Unity and COD:Advanced warfare.Im going to use a Gigabyte Gtx 760,So what do you think?

 

[Arachnotronic]

Hey there, im confused between buying the Intel Core I5-4460 Haswell 3.2GHz and the Intel Core I5-4690 Haswell 3.5GHz, I also dont plan on over clocking the difference between them is 41.8$here in Egypt,I was wondering are the 300 MHz worth the 55 dollars? I also plan on using it for gaming running heavy games like AC Unity and COD:Advanced warfare.Im going to use a Gigabyte Gtx 760,So what do you think?

These chips are multiplier locked, so your ability to overclock either will be fairly limited.

How about this? Do they sell an i5-4590 in your area? If so, what is the difference in price between the 4460 and the 4590? It may be the best value.

 

[Mohamed_Hesham]

These chips are multiplier locked, so your ability to overclock either will be fairly limited.

How about this? Do they sell an i5-4590 in your area? If so, what is the difference in price between the 4460 and the 4590? It may be the best value.

14$ more than the 4460 and 28$ less than the 4690 , it costs 209$, I know every thing is expensive here in Egypt.

 

[Arachnotronic]

14$ more than the 4460 and 28$ less than the 4690 , it costs 209$, I know every thing is expensive here in Egypt.

Cool, all right...I'd go with the 4590

 

[Mohamed_Hesham]

Cool, all right...I'd go with the 4590

Is there a big of a difference because im trying to keep a low budget

 

[Seba]

Between those 3 choices (4460, 4590 and 4690), 4460 has the best value (GHz/$) at your prices.

Keep in mind that for a Haswell Refresh if you use a 8 series motherboard (H81, B85, H87 or Z87) you need a recent BIOS (UEFI). If the motherboard does not support Haswell Refresh with the current BIOS, then you need a supported CPU (Haswell non-Refresh) to update the BIOS. A 9-series motherboard (H97, Z97) should support a Haswell Refresh from the start (no matter the BIOS version).

 

[Mohamed_Hesham]

Between those 3 choices (4460, 4590 and 4690), 4460 has the best value (GHz/$) at your prices.

Keep in mind that for a Haswell Refresh if you use a 8 series motherboard (H81, B85, H87 or Z87) you need a recent BIOS (UEFI). If the motherboard does not support Haswell Refresh with the current BIOS, then you need a supported CPU (Haswell non-Refresh) to update the BIOS. A 9-series motherboard (H97, Z97) should support a Haswell Refresh from the start (no matter the BIOS version).

I'm using an ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer Socket 1150 Motherboard.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Is there a big of a difference because im trying to keep a low budget

Not all that significant. I'm sure a 4460 would serve you well for a good long while.

 

[Seba]

I'm using an ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer Socket 1150 Motherboard.

Why choose such an expensive motherboard if you have a low budget?

 

[Mohamed_Hesham]

Why choose such an expensive motherboard if you have a low budget?

Not a very low one, here's my build
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2406593

 

[papapapapapapapababy]

resolution? target FPS? only console ports? Then it makes no difference, get a good gpu , stable mobo @ psu. considering the crapy cpus this consoles have inside, if the game runs below 30fps on a i5- i3 then it's not worth your time.

 

[escrow4]

A 4460 runs at a slow 3.4GHz max boost. Games love clock speed. At least go the next step up.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I agree. I would go with the 4690. Considering the entire system cost and the fact that a CPU should last several years, I think it is worth it.

 

[Lepton87]

I don't agree with the posters above, in the future an extra couple hundred of MHz won't make a difference but HT might, if you don't want to overclock pick up a Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1230 v3 CPU. If you can't afford this CPU there's nothing that will choke a 4460 and will run fine on a 4690. Just not enough of a difference, MY KB just brke. delicious

 

[krumme]

Hey there, im confused between buying the Intel Core I5-4460 Haswell 3.2GHz and the Intel Core I5-4690 Haswell 3.5GHz, I also dont plan on over clocking the difference between them is 41.8$here in Egypt,I was wondering are the 300 MHz worth the 55 dollars? I also plan on using it for gaming running heavy games like AC Unity and COD:Advanced warfare.Im going to use a Gigabyte Gtx 760,So what do you think?

4460 all the way
In 3 years the difference is next to zerro anyway
Get a faster gpu instead

 

[Lepton87]

4460 all the way
In 3 years the difference is next to zerro anyway
Get a faster gpu instead

Well, that 15% frequency uplift just might make a difference, at first I thought it was less of a difference but here you go 3.9/3.4=14.7% still I think that Xeon is the way t g my key o stopped working

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I don't agree with the posters above, in the future an extra couple hundred of MHz won't make a difference but HT might, if you don't want to overclock pick up a Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1230 v3 CPU. If you can't afford this CPU there's nothing that will choke a 4460 and will run fine on a 4690. Just not enough of a difference, MY KB just brke. delicious

What he said, except I'd get the Xeon E3-1231v3 instead. Same CPU with 100MHz higher clock speed for about $5 US more (hopefully those prices translate over to Egypt too). It's an i7 4770 minus the integrated graphics and with 100 MHz slower turbo, but sells for $60 less than the i7 4770 in the US.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Well, that 15% frequency uplift just might make a difference, at first I thought it was less of a difference but here you go 3.9/3.4=14.7% still I think that Xeon is the way t g my key o stopped working

Yeah, Xeon E3-1231v3 gives HT and a 3.4 GHz base / 3.8 GHz turbo.

 

[krumme]

Well, that 15% frequency uplift just might make a difference, at first I thought it was less of a difference but here you go 3.9/3.4=14.7% still I think that Xeon is the way t g my key o stopped working

If you end up beeing cpu limited in games something like Mantle or future dx12 is going to easily give 50% uplift - in some cpu draw call limited rts games perhaps 100-200%. Thats what matters then.

An 760gtx is not very fast for this Haswell class cpu perf anyway. The 15% will not make the slightest difference.

And yes HT is the difference if any for future more multithreaded games and applications. That will better enable a future gpu upgrade path.

 

[Lepton87]

What he said, except I'd get the Xeon E3-1231v3 instead. Same CPU with 100MHz higher clock speed for about $5 US more (hopefully those prices translate over to Egypt too). It's an i7 4770 minus the integrated graphics and with 100 MHz slower turbo, but sells for $60 less than the i7 4770 in the US.

I didn't know about this E3-1231V3 for just $5 more it's certainly the CPU to get.

An 760gtx is not very fast for this Haswell class cpu perf anyway.

That's right it's certainly not fast enough to bottleneck any of those CPUs. Still, that Xeon seems like it could handle a GPU upgrade or two.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I would also wait for the GTX 960 to come out if I was you. The GTX 760 is pretty overpriced right now for being a 2GB card, and the 960 is rumored to only be $50US more for a 4GB card. Supposedly it will be out in Q1 2015. Or go with an R9 280, which is in the same tier of card as the GTX 760 (and usually performs a little better), is significantly cheaper, and has 3GB of VRAM.

 

[crashtech]

The Xeons are generally not available in overseas markets in retail from what I have seen. I think when overall system cost is factored in, the i5-44xx series is not as good a value as the i5-45xx or 46xx, because their turbo bins are poor. They are probably best utilized where cooling the CPU is a concern, since at 3.2GHz or lower they won't get nearly as hot as the faster i5's

 

[Mohamed_Hesham]

Too bad can't find the Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1230 v3 anywhere , so I guess I have to stick to the ones mentioned previously.

I5 4460 3.2 GHz Turbo 3.4 GHz 195.3$
I5 4590 3.3 GHz Turbo 3.7 GHz 209.3$
I5 4690 3.5 GHz Turbo 3.9 GHz 237.3$

Whats the best for the price?

 

[crashtech]

I5 4460 3.2 GHz Turbo 3.4 GHz 195.3$, 34.52 "Passmarks"/dollar
I5 4590 3.3 GHz Turbo 3.7 GHz 209.3$, 34.6 Passmarks/dollar
I5 4690 3.5 GHz Turbo 3.9 GHz 237.3$, 32.24 Passmarks/dollar

When only the cost of the CPU is considered, the 4590 is the winner, although just barely. If the total system cost is considered instead of just the CPU, it is very likely the 4690 would then be the value leader, though i did not do that arithmetic.

 

[krumme]

I5 4460 3.2 GHz Turbo 3.4 GHz 195.3$, 34.52 "Passmarks"/dollar
I5 4590 3.3 GHz Turbo 3.7 GHz 209.3$, 34.6 Passmarks/dollar
I5 4690 3.5 GHz Turbo 3.9 GHz 237.3$, 32.24 Passmarks/dollar

When only the cost of the CPU is considered, the 4590 is the winner, although just barely. If the total system cost is considered instead of just the CPU, it is very likely the 4690 would then be the value leader, though i did not do that arithmetic.

That kind of calculation can be done for every component and you can say the more expensive piece is always better.

But for gaming a faster gpu for 40$ in this situation is far superior eg a 280x on the cheaper cpu.

Its not about passmark but fps at a certain resolution and quality.