Confirmed voter fraud attempt

[Fanatical Meat]

Why is it always Republicans?

Postal worker pleads guilty to election fraud after changing voters' party affiliations

The Department of Justice saidthat Cooper changed five ballot requests from Democrat to Republican, but the adjustment was caught by the county clerk, who knew the voters personally and knew they were not Republicans

 

[Brainonska511]

Why is it always Republicans?

Postal worker pleads guilty to election fraud after changing voters' party affiliations

That's partly why they support all those nonsense ID laws: projection

 

[ivwshane]

Technically not voter fraud as these weren’t ballots but requests for ballots.

 

[trenchfoot]

Another Trump "patriot" operating under the Trump Clause whereby any nefarious ethically and morally hideous thing you do for Donald is legal unless you get caught, then Trump will say that you're a really nice guy, your heart was in the right place but he doesn't know you and might have seen you serving him a Big Mac at Micky D's.

 

[dawp]

was just reading about this, was claiming it was a joke, an expensive joke that may land him behind bars.

 

[blackangst1]

voter fraud doesn't exist, remember?

 

[ch33zw1z]

voter fraud doesn't exist, remember?

You still think people take you seriously, remember?

 

[FaaR]

Why is it always Republicans?

Because it's the party which has been spending 30 years now and maybe more demonizing the other side as monsters and devils who want to destroy Merica.

voter fraud doesn't exist, remember?

Right, except nobody ever actually said that.

Always with these fake strawmen. This is what makes Repuggers fundamentally bad people, the proud and overt intellectual - and actual - dishonesty.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

voter fraud doesn't exist, remember?

Because it basically doesn’t. This was a dumb attempt to mail people the wrong primary ballot. Two fucking people.
Really my point is before we spend millions upon millions on some kind of National ID that will be free for all let’s understand that we are spending that money to maybe prevent 3 fraudulent votes.

 

[Thump553]

Technically not voter fraud as these weren’t ballots but requests for ballots.

Wrong. It is voter fraud because those actions resulted in the voters affected not being able to vote in the primary they had selected. Disenfranchisement.

 

[ch33zw1z]

That's partly why they support all those nonsense ID laws: projection

Because it basically doesn’t. This was a dumb attempt to mail people the wrong primary ballot. Two fucking people.
Really my point is before we spend millions upon millions on some kind of National ID that will be free for all let’s understand that we are spending that money to maybe prevent 3 fraudulent votes.

Like Brain points out, when you do find it, it's almost always R's committing it. They think everyone else (especially the D's) are doing it, so they're gonna do it too.

 

[interchange]

Small scale voter fraud isn't all that hard. But it has almost no impact. A local election with 100s of voters can be affected. That's about it.

On a bigger scale, I can't imagine classic fraud being successful so long as whoever is overseeing the election isn't the one committing the fraud. Stuff like purging registries, closing polling locations, machines not working, exact match systems designed to disproportionately affect minority voters, etc. obviously have happened. That's corruption. Corruption is what I fear, not fraud.

 

[allisolm]

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Wrong. It is voter fraud because those actions resulted in the voters affected not being able to vote in the primary they had selected. Disenfranchisement.

Please give us links to show that anyone did not get to vote in their chosen primary.

 

[allisolm]

voter fraud doesn't exist, remember?

Because it basically doesn’t.

This.

 

[allisolm]

Confirmed voter fraud attempt

Not voter fraud. Not attempted voter fraud. Attempted election fraud. There is a difference.

 

[hal2kilo]

Why is it always Republicans?

Postal worker pleads guilty to election fraud after changing voters' party affiliations

Projection be thy name.

 

[Greenman]

Because it basically doesn’t. This was a dumb attempt to mail people the wrong primary ballot. Two fucking people.
Really my point is before we spend millions upon millions on some kind of National ID that will be free for all let’s understand that we are spending that money to maybe prevent 3 fraudulent votes.

That statement is factually incorrect. Elections have been overturned because of voter fraud, and that includes vote harvesting which is legal here in CA.

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud

Leslie McCrae Dowless is accused of leading a scheme to illegally collect, sign and mail in absentee ballots. An investigation into allegations of fraud overturned a 2018 congressional race.

www.npr.org

 

[Fanatical Meat]

That statement is factually incorrect. Elections have been overturned because of voter fraud, and that includes vote harvesting which is legal here in CA.

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud

Leslie McCrae Dowless is accused of leading a scheme to illegally collect, sign and mail in absentee ballots. An investigation into allegations of fraud overturned a 2018 congressional race.

www.npr.org

Key point on that story is Mail in ballots. That is not in person fraud. No form of Voter ID would solve it. I maintain in person voter fraud is nearly non-existent.

 

[Greenman]

Key point on that story is Mail in ballots. That is not in person fraud. No form of Voter ID would solve it. I maintain in person voter fraud is nearly non-existent.

That's not in the title or the OP, but I'll accept the premise.
In person voting with ID would indeed solve vote harvesting and mail in ballot fraud. I don't know how prevalent voter fraud is, but recent elections have been overturned because of it. That's a fact. Even if we grant that one aspect of voter fraud doesn't exist, that still leaves two others that absolutely are being used and need to be addressed. That's not speculation or opinion, it's happening, it's a real problem that needs a real solution. I see an obvious answer that's easy to implement, cheap, and as secure as we're ever going to get. It's not 100% perfect, nothing will ever make that standard, but it's demonstrably better than fraud and a never ending string of contested elections.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

That's not in the title or the OP, but I'll accept the premise.
In person voting with ID would indeed solve vote harvesting and mail in ballot fraud. I don't know how prevalent voter fraud is, but recent elections have been overturned because of it. That's a fact. Even if we grant that one aspect of voter fraud doesn't exist, that still leaves two others that absolutely are being used and need to be addressed. That's not speculation or opinion, it's happening, it's a real problem that needs a real solution. I see an obvious answer that's easy to implement, cheap, and as secure as we're ever going to get. It's not 100% perfect, nothing will ever make that standard, but it's demonstrably better than fraud and a never ending string of contested elections.

Yeah my title is sloppy
I have no solution to mail in voting but I do believe we all have to accept all fraud isn’t really “fraud” and we need to define what real fraud is.
Examples:
My birth name is misspelled, I was born way too early with some problems. My Grandmother filled out my birth certificate and immediately went to get my SSN# filed Incase I died. My voter registration name is different than my legal name. If someone runs a report voting me wouldn’t exist and legal name me would never vote thus 2 discrepancies.
I suspect some mail in fraud is from people who are moving and the ballot is from their old address that may be in a different voting district than where they live on Election Day hard to call this fraud it is just someone taking a shortcut
I suspect some will be from a Child who votes for their sick or incapacitated parent. Especially if that parent said vote for xyz for me is this really fraud?

Finally there is no system that can be designed where something will be repeated tens of millions of times without error. Even factories that stamp out nails will have some screwed up nails if one in one million nails are screwed up it really doesn’t justify tearing the whole factory down and rebuilding it.

 

[compuwiz1]

More fine republicans?

Paterson City Council Vice President Among 4 Charged With Voting Fraud in May Special Election: NJ AG

A Paterson, New Jersey, councilman and a councilman-elect in the same city, along with two other men, face voting fraud charges in connection with the May 12 special election, the state attorney general’s office said Thursday. Councilmember Michael Jackson, who serves as the council’s vice...

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[Jhhnn]

That's not in the title or the OP, but I'll accept the premise.
In person voting with ID would indeed solve vote harvesting and mail in ballot fraud. I don't know how prevalent voter fraud is, but recent elections have been overturned because of it. That's a fact. Even if we grant that one aspect of voter fraud doesn't exist, that still leaves two others that absolutely are being used and need to be addressed. That's not speculation or opinion, it's happening, it's a real problem that needs a real solution. I see an obvious answer that's easy to implement, cheap, and as secure as we're ever going to get. It's not 100% perfect, nothing will ever make that standard, but it's demonstrably better than fraud and a never ending string of contested elections.

Five states vote by mail. Attempts at fraud are almost non-existent. That's demonstrably true. Works great. The rest is just fearmongering & noise.

 

[interchange]

That's not in the title or the OP, but I'll accept the premise.
In person voting with ID would indeed solve vote harvesting and mail in ballot fraud. I don't know how prevalent voter fraud is, but recent elections have been overturned because of it. That's a fact. Even if we grant that one aspect of voter fraud doesn't exist, that still leaves two others that absolutely are being used and need to be addressed. That's not speculation or opinion, it's happening, it's a real problem that needs a real solution. I see an obvious answer that's easy to implement, cheap, and as secure as we're ever going to get. It's not 100% perfect, nothing will ever make that standard, but it's demonstrably better than fraud and a never ending string of contested elections.

How would in person voter ID solve a problem with mail in voter fraud?

 

[Jhhnn]

How would in person voter ID solve a problem with mail in voter fraud?

It's a lame argument to disallow mail in voting.

 

[kage69]

Republicans committing election fraud again. What a shock.