"Confident U.S. consumers open their wallets'

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Aww....did I touch a nerve by responding to your little rant? Poor guy...

And actually I believe that most people aren't taking the fatalist position that the ~! and ~buts here do but think what you wish if it helps you sleep at night.

BTW - I get paid weekly

CkG

Okay Cad, what/who are these ~! and ~buts you keep mentioning? Is it something akin to the "But, Clinton . . ." types?

I thought this was established a while back.

Here it goes.
~! is an angry libbie
~but is one who see but also tries to excuse the good because of some little percieved "bad".

CkG

Too funny. I guessed I missed the memo. So the ~! are the equivalent of the "Kerry ate a baby!" and the ~but are the equivalent of the "But, Clinton . . ." Got it.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Aww....did I touch a nerve by responding to your little rant? Poor guy...

And actually I believe that most people aren't taking the fatalist position that the ~! and ~buts here do but think what you wish if it helps you sleep at night.

BTW - I get paid weekly

CkG

Okay Cad, what/who are these ~! and ~buts you keep mentioning? Is it something akin to the "But, Clinton . . ." types?

I thought this was established a while back.

Here it goes.
~! is an angry libbie
~but is one who see but also tries to excuse the good because of some little percieved "bad".

CkG

Too funny. I guessed I missed the memo. So the ~! are the equivalent of the "Kerry ate a baby!" and the ~but are the equivalent of the "But, Clinton . . ." Got it.

Almost, but not quite. You'll understand in due time.

CkG

 

[dmcowen674]

Here's the result of all the Consumer spending ON CREDIT CARDS that CAD & Co are so proud of:

3-5-2004 Americans Struggle with Credit Card Bills

Americans, facing a weak labor market, are struggling to pay off their credit card bills, according to an industry survey released on Friday.

At the same time, they have no plans to rein in their spending, which accounts for two-thirds of the U.S. economy

In the latest survey, 49 percent of those who are taking on more debt said they are borrowing more because they do not have the money to pay in full when the credit card bills arrive.

In March, 40 percent of Americans surveyed plan to take on more debt to make purchases, up from February's 37 percent, the survey said.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Here's the result of all the Consumer spending ON CREDIT CARDS that CAD & Co are so proud of:

3-5-2004 Americans Struggle with Credit Card Bills

Americans, facing a weak labor market, are struggling to pay off their credit card bills, according to an industry survey released on Friday.

At the same time, they have no plans to rein in their spending, which accounts for two-thirds of the U.S. economy

In the latest survey, 49 percent of those who are taking on more debt said they are borrowing more because they do not have the money to pay in full when the credit card bills arrive.

In March, 40 percent of Americans surveyed plan to take on more debt to make purchases, up from February's 37 percent, the survey said.

- nice spin dave. Care to point out where I stated I was proud of consumers spending via credit cards? Didn't think so...

Anyway - it looks like Consumer credit is bullish

Just posted this in the other thread too. You'll see that charrison posted this link above.

CkG

 

[Drphibes]

Time to get fitted up with a ball and chain so we can pay off the debt we owe to the mega corporations. Wait isnt this what they did to indentured servants way back whenever. Seems like they got the better end of the deal though atleast their masters gave them food and shelter.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Here's the result of all the Consumer spending ON CREDIT CARDS that CAD & Co are so proud of:

3-5-2004 Americans Struggle with Credit Card Bills

Americans, facing a weak labor market, are struggling to pay off their credit card bills, according to an industry survey released on Friday.

At the same time, they have no plans to rein in their spending, which accounts for two-thirds of the U.S. economy

In the latest survey, 49 percent of those who are taking on more debt said they are borrowing more because they do not have the money to pay in full when the credit card bills arrive.

In March, 40 percent of Americans surveyed plan to take on more debt to make purchases, up from February's 37 percent, the survey said.

- nice spin dave. Care to point out where I stated I was proud of consumers spending via credit cards? Didn't think so...

Anyway - it looks like Consumer credit is bullish

Just posted this in the other thread too. You'll see that charrison posted this link above.

CkG

Lat I checked Charrison is a member of CAD & Co, No?

 

[heartsurgeon]

what in the world are you doing looking at NYT garbage

I read the garbage from Slate, Village Voice, The Nation, The North Korean News Agency, Maureen Dowd...you name it, i'm a news junkie. That way i always know i heard every side of an argument.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

what in the world are you doing looking at NYT garbage

I read the garbage from Slate, Village Voice, The Nation, The North Korean News Agency, Maureen Dowd...you name it, i'm a news junkie. That way i always know i heard every side of an argument.

If things really are "so great" there wouldn't be any argument now would there???

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

what in the world are you doing looking at NYT garbage

I read the garbage from Slate, Village Voice, The Nation, The North Korean News Agency, Maureen Dowd...you name it, i'm a news junkie. That way i always know i heard every side of an argument.

If things really are "so great" there wouldn't be any argument now would there???

There are always ~! and ~buts out there.

CkG

 

[Ornery]

Confident U.S. consumers:

• Consumer Confidence Rebounds over Month
  WATE, TN - 10 hours ago
  WASHINGTON (AP) -- Consumer confidence has rebounded over the past
  month. That means Americans feel better about their financial ...
  Consumer confidence rebounds over the past month - WAFF
  and more »
  
  Consumer confidence gives rise to strong sales
  Newsday, NY - 11 hours ago
  Consumers' rising confidence gave the nation's retailers their third straight month
  of solid sales in February, with ... Consumer electronics retailer Best Buy Co. ...
  Consumer confidence boosts retail for 3rd straight month - Cincinnati Enquirer
  Retail surges on robust sales - San Diego Union Tribune
  US retailers report strong February sales as consumers' ... - Canada.com
  and more »
  
  Consumer confidence increases
  Coos Bay World, OR - 3 hours ago
  WASHINGTON (AP) - Consumer confidence rebounded over the past month as Americans
  felt better about their current financial situations as well as the economy's ...
  
  
  Consumer confidence shows big gain out West
  Phoenix Business Journal, AZ - Mar 4, 2004
  Consumer confidence is picking up in the West according to a report, released Thursday
  by the US Conference Board, that finds that the Rocky Mountain Region ...
  Rocky Mountain Consumer Confidence High - IDEX Online
  Consumer confidence up in New Mexico, Rocky Mountain states - KOB-TV
  Rocky Mountain Region Scores Biggest Rise in Consumer Confidence - Newswise (press release)
  RTO Online - Salt Lake Tribune - and more »
  
  NY consumer confidence slipped in February
  Albany Business Review, NY - Mar 4, 2004
  New York state consumer confidence fell 4 points last month to 81.3, ending a string
  of four straight monthly advances, according to the monthly poll by the ...
  
  
  Area's consumer confidence rises again
  Louisville Business First, KY - Mar 4, 2004
  Consumer confidence in Kentucky and the surrounding region is up compared with
  last year for the second straight month, according to a report released ...
  
  
  Area's consumer confidence rises in past year
  St. Louis Business Journal, MO - Mar 3, 2004
  Consumer confidence has risen 27 points in the US region that includes Missouri in
  the last year, a new study released Wednesday by the Conference Board shows. ...
  Area's consumer confidence rises in past year - Kansas City Business Journal
  and more »

 

[leeboy]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: leeboy

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: leeboy

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Solid economic gains

~but ... ~but... ~but...

I opened my wallet recently. Too bad my wife drives it - I only get to see the payments being drawn from my acct.

CkG

~so ... ~so... ~so... the party of so's.

~so if millions are still out of work
~so if hundreds have died in Iraq for lies
~so if we have a gazillion dollar debt
~so fill in the blank

As long as CAD and Co. get their biweekly direct deposits, fvck anyone else.

The party of greed, no compassion, and ~SO.

Pft, should give you your own state, like Montana and wall all you happy well off cons in it with your families. You can rewrite your constitution to further suit your needs, Bush can be your King, and you can be free in inbreed with impunity. Kind of like your own personal Xanadu. We'll send postcards.

- Maybe you should join the rest of us here in a place called REALITY. Millions have been out of work before - do you understand that there is ALWAYS unemployment?
Do you understand the value of Freedom and security?
Do you understand that our debt really isn't out of line with GDP?

So yeah, while things could be better - things really aren't as bad as the red-faced spittle spewing leftists are making it out to be.

Some day you'll learn these things leetleboy...if reality becomes a part of your thinking.

CkG

Typical CAD inane drivel. Your argument is lost on me and the well over 50% of Americans needed to oust your Chumpion. Na na na na, hey hey hey, bite down harder CAD. Pft.

Aww....did I touch a nerve by responding to your little rant? Poor guy...

And actually I believe that most people aren't taking the fatalist position that the ~! and ~buts here do but think what you wish if it helps you sleep at night.

BTW - I get paid weekly

CkG

You rent no space in my head CAD, but your arrogance is assuming you would is indicitive of your and most of your party members. You are the child who couldn't type his post without adding some letters to my screen name, must have been a twitch from the nerve I struck, huh? Your King has been check mated. New game.

And what is I heard all over the news radio stations today that only a scant 21,000 jobs or so were created last month, down from some 100.000+ the preceeding month. And WHAT... 600,000 people last month totally gave up their hopes of finding jobs? People who are no longer counted in the unemployment figures. The ugliest statistic that you could care less about CAD is that the REAL unemployment number is around 10-12% nationwide. Get real man, you could care less about anyone outside your backyard and we are HAPPY you are on the other team, makes beating you so much more fun. Bye bye ~so.

Maybe you can write a LISP routine to make sense of that?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: leeboy

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: leeboy

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: leeboy

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Solid economic gains

~but ... ~but... ~but...

I opened my wallet recently. Too bad my wife drives it - I only get to see the payments being drawn from my acct.

CkG

~so ... ~so... ~so... the party of so's.

~so if millions are still out of work
~so if hundreds have died in Iraq for lies
~so if we have a gazillion dollar debt
~so fill in the blank

As long as CAD and Co. get their biweekly direct deposits, fvck anyone else.

The party of greed, no compassion, and ~SO.

Pft, should give you your own state, like Montana and wall all you happy well off cons in it with your families. You can rewrite your constitution to further suit your needs, Bush can be your King, and you can be free in inbreed with impunity. Kind of like your own personal Xanadu. We'll send postcards.

- Maybe you should join the rest of us here in a place called REALITY. Millions have been out of work before - do you understand that there is ALWAYS unemployment?
Do you understand the value of Freedom and security?
Do you understand that our debt really isn't out of line with GDP?

So yeah, while things could be better - things really aren't as bad as the red-faced spittle spewing leftists are making it out to be.

Some day you'll learn these things leetleboy...if reality becomes a part of your thinking.

CkG

Typical CAD inane drivel. Your argument is lost on me and the well over 50% of Americans needed to oust your Chumpion. Na na na na, hey hey hey, bite down harder CAD. Pft.

Aww....did I touch a nerve by responding to your little rant? Poor guy...

And actually I believe that most people aren't taking the fatalist position that the ~! and ~buts here do but think what you wish if it helps you sleep at night.

BTW - I get paid weekly

CkG

You rent no space in my head CAD, but your arrogance is assuming you would is indicitive of your and most of your party members. You are the child who couldn't type his post without adding some letters to my screen name, must have been a twitch from the nerve I struck, huh? Your King has been check mated. New game.

And what is I heard all over the news radio stations today that only a scant 21,000 jobs or so were created last month, down from some 100.000+ the preceeding month. And WHAT... 600,000 people last month totally gave up their hopes of finding jobs?

Maybe you can write a LISP routine to make sense of that?

Yeah, us "inbreeders" are full of nerves Got anything else to whine about? Seems you like to dish them out but can't take them. Go figure...

Oh, and BTW - writing one's own lisp programs for what I do isn't necessary anymore for the most part(except batch plotting since the one AutoCAD has sucks for what I design/draw. ViaDevelopment was purchased by Autodesk so my LISP routines are pretty much worthless now since Autodesk incorporated Via's add on directly into AutoCAD2004 Electrical I still think my routines were enough for what we do, but this integrates similar ones directly into ACAD and created a "project" type shell to it all. It's great and it saves me time, plus I can run I/O reports and create parts lists internally. Not to mention less actual drawing time so I can spend more of my time designing systems to help put more unskilled Americans out of work.

CkG

 

[heartsurgeon]

If things really are "so great" there wouldn't be any argument now would there???

Different groups, people, political parties have different agendas and priorities. perception is reality. your reality is clearly not the same as mine, i don't expect your perception of the economy to be the same as mine, no matter what.

 

[rickn]

consumers are sailing thru the air without a net. what goes up, must come down

 

[ReiAyanami]

Consumer debt hit a record $2 trillion

they're opening their wallets and charging it to plastic because they have no money in their wallet

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

Another dopey troll from the antiDave. I feel sorry for your patients if you are really a doctor.

typical liberal tactic-- attack the person, ignore the facts. I would encourage you to post elsewhere.

cordially h.s.

Typical troll tactic-- insist feces is fact. I would encourage you to troll elsewhere.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

If things really are "so great" there wouldn't be any argument now would there???

Different groups, people, political parties have different agendas and priorities. perception is reality. your reality is clearly not the same as mine, i don't expect your perception of the economy to be the same as mine, no matter what.

Look at that folks, Rich boy he admits he is in a whole different world and doesn't give a crap because he is making tons of money so his little world is perfectly fine, screw the rest they don't exist "No Matter What".

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
Consumer debt hit a record $2 trillion

they're opening their wallets and charging it to plastic because they have no money in their wallet

With the exception of Rich Boys like HS and CAD & Co, they have tons of money so they don't even know what plastic is.

 

[heartsurgeon]

With the exception of Rich Boys like HS and CAD & Co, they have tons of money so they don't even know what plastic is.

i wondered if what you said might be true..

so one penny - 2.74 grams
907,184.74 grams per ton

approximately 3300 dollars (in pennies) = 1 ton of "money"

so Dave is actually half right!
i do have "tons" of money..gosh, i feel even better about myself!!

 

[chess9]

Weren't bankruptcies at an all time high last year? The abuse of credit cards by so many people inexorably leads to bankruptcy for a large percentage of them, particularly younger folks. I high bankruptcy rate is a drag on the economy, albeit a relatively small one.

Job creation simply isn't happening in the kind of numbers necessary to improve the employment picture. I'm not sure they are even keeping up with population growth. (I doubt it.)

Will Americans be able to afford the products that are being manufactured overseas? That is one of the bigger questions after what kind of jobs will the New Americans have?

-Robert

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
Consumer debt hit a record $2 trillion

they're opening their wallets and charging it to plastic because they have no money in their wallet

With the exception of Rich Boys like HS and CAD & Co, they have tons of money so they don't even know what plastic is.

I'm far from rich, helmet boy I almost had a ton of money but ofcourse I needed a ton of moving machinery so I borrowed a few tons. But yeah - I am "rich" compared to most people in the world. Shame on me I guess

CkG