Confession Video: US Soldier Describes Thrill Kill of Innocent Afghans

[nobodyknows]

That is so retarded it deserves no response.

But here is one, these are civilians that they murdered, this is terrorism committed by soldiers representing your nation and you can't judge them? They fucking collected parts of cadavers and you can't judge them?

I judge you to be a phoney. How's that for ya??

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I judge you to be a phoney. How's that for ya??

That's great, has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand but that's fine by me.

Why would i care?

 

[OutHouse]

This is what you call "very high standards"?

That's what i call unprofessional and people being in a situation where they do not belong.

stop spinning my words you know exactly what i mean. you of anybody should know that the stryker brigade is a hardened front line combat unit.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

stop spinning my words you know exactly what i mean. you of anybody should know that the stryker brigade is a hardened front line combat unit.

I don't put reputation before actions and neither should you.

This is definently unprofessional behaviour and it shows a group that has not honor, no disciplin and no loyalty, they are a disgrace to their profession, to their platoon, to their brigade, to their regiment, to their commanding officers and to their country.

There is no excuse.

 

[Fern]

This is only at the Grand Jury level.

Might be a good idea for a trial to happen before forming any opinion on the truth, or accuracy, of these allegations.

Fern

 

[woolfe9999]

This is only at the Grand Jury level.

Might be a good idea for a trial to happen before forming any opinion on the truth, or accuracy, of these allegations.

Fern

This is the court of public opinion, and in that court, we are the judge, jury and executioner.

No seriously, we only have the news reports to go on. I assume that every comment made here is based on the hypotethical assumption that what we are being told is accurate. If it isn't accurate, I would hope the courts will sort that out and issue the proper result.

- wolf

 

[OutHouse]

I don't put reputation before actions and neither should you.

This is definently unprofessional behaviour and it shows a group that has not honor, no disciplin and no loyalty, they are a disgrace to their profession, to their platoon, to their brigade, to their regiment, to their commanding officers and to their country.

There is no excuse.

Yes i agree with that.

 

[dawp]

Murder isn't making fun of what they're doing. The previous poster had it right about 'losing their humanity' - but that's by design, so they kill more efficiently.

Killing doesn't come naturally to people, it's bad for people IMO (the killers, of course), especially strangers for some reasons identified by politicians.

Training has been developed with great care to overcome the natural reluctance to killing.

I'm not too sure about that. I believe that everyone is capable of killing, It's just that our society developed as such that killing other humans is wrong. If our society had developed differently, killing others would be no different than killing a rat.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

This is the court of public opinion, and in that court, we are the judge, jury and executioner.

No seriously, we only have the news reports to go on. I assume that every comment made here is based on the hypotethical assumption that what we are being told is accurate. If it isn't accurate, I would hope the courts will sort that out and issue the proper result.

- wolf

It's not a new story, it was leaked after the interview and the findings among the soldiers possesions.

To me it seems over and done with, i don't know if more than one of them has admitted all of it yet but keeping parts of cadavers isn't the brightest ideas, at least not from non qualified kills.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I'm not too sure about that. I believe that everyone is capable of killing, It's just that our society developed as such that killing other humans is wrong. If our society had developed differently, killing others would be no different than killing a rat.

I sincerely doubt that, would you even burn a rat alive? No? Well that is empathy and with humans that feeling is stronger.

That doesn't mean that you can't justify killing others in certain circumstances but to take their lives for no reason, that takes a sociopath.

I've done some pretty horrible things in my years but i've NEVER taken a life "for the fun of it".

 

[StageLeft]

JOS what color is the boat house at Hereford?

 

[StageLeft]

I've done some pretty horrible things in my years but i've NEVER taken a life "for the fun of it".

In your interests it says "I kill people for fun". I know that's probably just for the heck of it, though. I don't think you're a phoney; I don't know anybody here who thinks you are has ever found any evidence to support it, so...

You're right, if a person cannot judge another doing this it says something bad about both.

 

[Daedalus685]

I'm not too sure about that. I believe that everyone is capable of killing, It's just that our society developed as such that killing other humans is wrong. If our society had developed differently, killing others would be no different than killing a rat.

Mhmm.. I bet that would be good for future sustainability of a species... also, if gravity were backwards we would fall up!

I assume you are speaking a bit tongue in cheek, because to advocate that murder is harmful just because we as a society say it is, is asinine. Without rather firm morality on the subject of killing our kin I'm nearly certain we would not have evolved at all... I can't think of a single social mammal with no regard for death of its own kind. Which makes perfect sense... as the genetic sustainability of a race of sociopaths would be rather poor.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

JOS what color is the boat house at Hereford?

Brown and white, if you're talking about the rowing club one, there is none near the Stirling Lines though.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

In your interests it says "I kill people for fun". I know that's probably just for the heck of it, though. I don't think you're a phoney; I don't know anybody here who thinks you are has ever found any evidence to support it, so...

You're right, if a person cannot judge another doing this it says something bad about both.

Yeah, i kind of added that as a joke when i first joined, went well along with my sig at that time.

Cheers.

 

[dawp]

I sincerely doubt that, would you even burn a rat alive? No? Well that is empathy and with humans that feeling is stronger.

That doesn't mean that you can't justify killing others in certain circumstances but to take their lives for no reason, that takes a sociopath.

I've done some pretty horrible things in my years but i've NEVER taken a life "for the fun of it".

Nether have I or would I. I have killed rats with poison in a house that was infested and depending on the poison, it can be a horrible way to die. I've also drowned mice years ago after the trap failed. I felt no remorse in either instance. of course that hypothesis is impossible to confirm since society has developed in a different direction. It's really no different that making sacrifices to imaginary gods like our forefathers had done.

I think since religion is so prevalent in our society and all major religions have something similar to "thou shall not kill", we as a whole do not kill.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Nether have I or would I. I have killed rats with poison in a house that was infested and depending on the poison, it can be a horrible way to die. I've also drowned mice years ago after the trap failed. I felt no remorse in either instance. of course that hypothesis is impossible to confirm since society has developed in a different direction. It's really no different that making sacrifices to imaginary gods like our forefathers had done.

This is more like catching a rat in the wild, trapping it, squirting lighter fluid on it and set it on fire.

If i look to my instincts and nothing else, killing someone for nothing makes no sense, i know he'll have at least someone who will care about him, for his sake i could care less though, he's dead he doesn't care.

To me the intrinsic value in human life isn't the human life itself but what it means to those left behind to lose someone.

If that makes any sense to others i don't know, but empathy cannot be used to feel death, only mourning so i suppose it should make sense to others too?

 

[dawp]

This is more like catching a rat in the wild, trapping it, squirting lighter fluid on it and set it on fire.

If i look to my instincts and nothing else, killing someone for nothing makes no sense, i know he'll have at least someone who will care about him, for his sake i could care less though, he's dead he doesn't care.

To me the intrinsic value in human life isn't the human life itself but what it means to those left behind to lose someone.

If that makes any sense to others i don't know, but empathy cannot be used to feel death, only mourning so i suppose it should make sense to others too?

I'm saying that if our values were different from a young age instead of what we have now, things would be a lot different. we like to think we are different from the Ancient Romans but in actuality, the only difference is the values we instill in our kids.

Just look at how slaves were treated in the south. It's not that difficult to view someone as sub-human.

 

[Narmer]

The men who did this are pscyhopaths. Keeping trophies of your victims is Ted Bundy shit. Are you saying that psychopaths don't find their way into well trained military units, or that the training eliminates the pscyhopathology?

- wolf

There is nothing wrong with keeping trophies of your kills.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I'm saying that if our values were different from a young age instead of what we have now, things would be a lot different. we like to think we are different from the Ancient Romans but in actuality, the only difference is the values we instill in our kids.

Just look at how slaves were treated in the south. It's not that difficult to view someone as sub-human.

Ah, but empathy isn't a learned value, it's inherent, it's a product of evolution so we can work together because humans do better in a society, we are flock animals.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

There is nothing wrong with keeping trophies of your kills.

This troll is baiting.

 

[dawp]

Ah, but empathy isn't a learned value, it's inherent, it's a product of evolution so we can work together because humans do better in a society, we are flock animals.

It's easier to have empathy for someone you know than someone you don't. And I tend to to have a lot of empathy, unlike some of our other posters here. I'm always thinking of how I would like that if it was done to me.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

It's easier to have empathy for someone you know than someone you don't. And I tend to to have a lot of empathy, unlike some of our other posters here. I'm always thinking of how I would like that if it was done to me.

Not really, empathy is equally distributed amongst all non-sociopaths, everything else is learned behaviour, that's why stuff like religion or anything but inherent morals are not natural and only lead to division and hate on the grander scale.

Actually, believe it or not, i have a lot of empathy too, but there are other instincts and the strongest one is to survive to procreate and protect your family and offspring.

I have no doubt you have empathy, that's a good thing, cherish it because it makes you a good man.

 

[dawp]

Not really, empathy is equally distributed amongst all non-sociopaths, everything else is learned behaviour, that's why stuff like religion or anything but inherent morals are not natural and only lead to division and hate on the grander scale.

Actually, believe it or not, i have a lot of empathy too, but there are other instincts and the strongest one is to survive to procreate and protect your family and offspring.

I have no doubt you have empathy, that's a good thing, cherish it because it makes you a good man.

I've been told that I was the nicest man she ever known by an x-girlfriend who went off and married someone else. We still keep in contact.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I've been told that I was the nicest man she ever known by an x-girlfriend who went off and married someone else. We still keep in contact.

At that point, look to the strongest instinct you have....

Go forth and procreate!