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PingSpike

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You need to conceal is because it may incite a panic. A non-concealed weapon is not to far from a brandished weapon, if you think about it.
 

runzwithsizorz

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Originally posted by: fisheerman



Make a wrong turn, or get off the beaten path in, N.O., or D.C. and you will know.[/quote]

Dont carry in DC or you are going to be in the slammer..................

[/quote] oops, forgot about that, should have said, and you will WISH you were carrying.
Ever been there, yikes! Once I made a wrong turn in a car, and a friend,who was with me,(a native), said, "what ever you do, don't make a u-turn, it shows weakness".

 

teddyv

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Glock 27.

For the most part it lives in my glove compartment, though I will take it along occasionally.

Years and years ago my brother and I were on our way out to Canaan Valley ski resort in West Virginia. My family had a place there at the time and we often left after work on Friday, arrived later in the evening and we'd ski the weekend. We left much later than usual this particular friday night and of course got VERY lost on the way out. We'd finally found a way, an isolated coal road, that took us over to where we needed to be and were driving along when my Brother suddenly said. "There is a car following us." I looked back - no headlights - though when I tapped my brakes I could see the sudden glow of a second set of brake lights about 100 yards back. Right about then we came out of the woods and onto a bridge. At the far end, maybe 40 or so yars off, a pickup truck was parked straddling both lanes. I stopped at the foot of the bridge, turned on the inside light and took out the Beretta 92F I had in the Ramcharger's center console. I chambered a round with the slide, put it on the dashboard, and turned off the inside light.

The Pickup blinked its lights, backed up off the bridge and drove off. The car behind went into reverse then also drove off in the other direction.

Ever since, unless I am heading north (DC, MD) I will carry something along in the glove compartment.
 

eleison

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Originally posted by: fisheerman

Dont carry in DC or you are going to be in the slammer..................

To bad the only people who really care about this is the law abiding citizen... the gang bangers... well, they just don't give a F...

 

GRIFFIN1

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Smart Carry
I don't use a smart carry "holster" but the people that do seem to like it. I can see where it would do a very good job of concealing a gun.

I use a Comp-Tac C-T.A.C. to conceal a Sig 239 .40 cal . I can conceal the gun with a nothing more than a shirt. You can also tuck in your shirt while using this holster. A smaller gun like your Bersa should be even easier to conceal.

When the weather is cool enough for a jacket, I usually just carry a Glock 19 in a Comp-Tac paddle holster.

You might want to look at pocket holsters. I don't have a pocket holster, but I think they might be good for a smaller pistol.

I suggest that you get a the C-T.A.C. holster for your Bersa. Avoid getting the standard clips if you plan on tucking in your shirt. I use the velcro clips, and they work great. You should also get a good leather belt. The Beltman makes a serious belt. I got a 1.5" belt. If you get the inside of the belt lined with velcro, then you can use the V-clips for the C-T.A.C. holster. The V-clips, make the holster almost invisible with a tucked in shirt.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: teddyv
Glock 27.

For the most part it lives in my glove compartment, though I will take it along occasionally.

Years and years ago my brother and I were on our way out to Canaan Valley ski resort in West Virginia. My family had a place there at the time and we often left after work on Friday, arrived later in the evening and we'd ski the weekend. We left much later than usual this particular friday night and of course got VERY lost on the way out. We'd finally found a way, an isolated coal road, that took us over to where we needed to be and were driving along when my Brother suddenly said. "There is a car following us." I looked back - no headlights - though when I tapped my brakes I could see the sudden glow of a second set of brake lights about 100 yards back. Right about then we came out of the woods and onto a bridge. At the far end, maybe 40 or so yars off, a pickup truck was parked straddling both lanes. I stopped at the foot of the bridge, turned on the inside light and took out the Beretta 92F I had in the Ramcharger's center console. I chambered a round with the slide, put it on the dashboard, and turned off the inside light.

The Pickup blinked its lights, backed up off the bridge and drove off. The car behind went into reverse then also drove off in the other direction.

Ever since, unless I am heading north (DC, MD) I will carry something along in the glove compartment.

I was under the impression that you are legally allowed to carry a locked, unloaded, concealed weapon in your vehicle if you transporting across state lines to a state where you are legally allowed to carry. I.E. driving from vermont to florida and you have a carry permit in fl you can drive with the gun through all the states between vermont and florida.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: biggestmuff
OP, in what state are you carrying? Typically, the law is written so that the firearms is covered and out of sight. Depending on how your state law is written, "concealed" doesn't mean that the firearm can't "print". Printing is having the outline of a firearm visible; wearing a tight fitting shirt pulled over the firearm.

In Virginia, I've carried in a side holster with a t shirt tucked in to my pants and just an open, unbuttoned shirt over the top. Careful doing that in your state. Some state's have laws about proper concealment as well as their own definition of brandishing. Also, check up on your state's open carry laws. They will both tie together and can help protect you if you ever accidentally and innocently expose your firearm. Read them and know them well!

People that aren't into guns or know the law will not even realize you have a firearm. It's just not something people think about if they aren't into the hobby or have a permit of their own.

The fun is you trying to spot people that conceal carry. Ever see a guy wearing a fanny-pack? What about a "photography vest"?


I live in PA. I don't recall seeing anything about the gun havign to be concealed, but ill double check now that you guys mentioned that.

Although thats not why i was asking. i was asking because even with my small frame Bersa Thunder, its hard to conceal without a coat. sure, my shirts can cover the gun, but you can still see the bulge of it.

so do you guys just not worry about the bulge then? i wanted it to be completely concealed and was wondering how people pulled it off.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
OP, in what state are you carrying? Typically, the law is written so that the firearms is covered and out of sight. Depending on how your state law is written, "concealed" doesn't mean that the firearm can't "print". Printing is having the outline of a firearm visible; wearing a tight fitting shirt pulled over the firearm.

In Virginia, I've carried in a side holster with a t shirt tucked in to my pants and just an open, unbuttoned shirt over the top. Careful doing that in your state. Some state's have laws about proper concealment as well as their own definition of brandishing. Also, check up on your state's open carry laws. They will both tie together and can help protect you if you ever accidentally and innocently expose your firearm. Read them and know them well!

People that aren't into guns or know the law will not even realize you have a firearm. It's just not something people think about if they aren't into the hobby or have a permit of their own.

The fun is you trying to spot people that conceal carry. Ever see a guy wearing a fanny-pack? What about a "photography vest"?


I live in PA. I don't recall seeing anything about the gun havign to be concealed, but ill double check now that you guys mentioned that.

Although thats not why i was asking. i was asking because even with my small frame Bersa Thunder, its hard to conceal without a coat. sure, my shirts can cover the gun, but you can still see the bulge of it.

so do you guys just not worry about the bulge then? i wanted it to be completely concealed and was wondering how people pulled it off.

wear looser fitting clothing when you carry.
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
OP, in what state are you carrying? Typically, the law is written so that the firearms is covered and out of sight. Depending on how your state law is written, "concealed" doesn't mean that the firearm can't "print". Printing is having the outline of a firearm visible; wearing a tight fitting shirt pulled over the firearm.

In Virginia, I've carried in a side holster with a t shirt tucked in to my pants and just an open, unbuttoned shirt over the top. Careful doing that in your state. Some state's have laws about proper concealment as well as their own definition of brandishing. Also, check up on your state's open carry laws. They will both tie together and can help protect you if you ever accidentally and innocently expose your firearm. Read them and know them well!

People that aren't into guns or know the law will not even realize you have a firearm. It's just not something people think about if they aren't into the hobby or have a permit of their own.

The fun is you trying to spot people that conceal carry. Ever see a guy wearing a fanny-pack? What about a "photography vest"?


I live in PA. I don't recall seeing anything about the gun havign to be concealed, but ill double check now that you guys mentioned that.

Although thats not why i was asking. i was asking because even with my small frame Bersa Thunder, its hard to conceal without a coat. sure, my shirts can cover the gun, but you can still see the bulge of it.

so do you guys just not worry about the bulge then? i wanted it to be completely concealed and was wondering how people pulled it off.

If there's a bulge, then it's just printing. No big deal in Virginia, but check your state laws. No, I don't worry about it. Many people carry cell phones, pagers and PDAs on their belts under their outer garments.
 

GRIFFIN1

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: biggestmuff

The fun is you trying to spot people that conceal carry. Ever see a guy wearing a fanny-pack? What about a "photography vest"?


so do you guys just not worry about the bulge then? i wanted it to be completely concealed and was wondering how people pulled it off.

Very few people will pay enough attention to you to notice a bulge. The ones that do notice it will not know what it is.
 

pontifex

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Citrix
i turned in my paper work for my CCP 2 weeks ago. the lady said its a 8-12 week waiting period while all the checks are done.

damn, where do you live? mine was like 2-3 weeks.
 

pontifex

Lifer
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
OP, in what state are you carrying? Typically, the law is written so that the firearms is covered and out of sight. Depending on how your state law is written, "concealed" doesn't mean that the firearm can't "print". Printing is having the outline of a firearm visible; wearing a tight fitting shirt pulled over the firearm.

In Virginia, I've carried in a side holster with a t shirt tucked in to my pants and just an open, unbuttoned shirt over the top. Careful doing that in your state. Some state's have laws about proper concealment as well as their own definition of brandishing. Also, check up on your state's open carry laws. They will both tie together and can help protect you if you ever accidentally and innocently expose your firearm. Read them and know them well!

People that aren't into guns or know the law will not even realize you have a firearm. It's just not something people think about if they aren't into the hobby or have a permit of their own.

The fun is you trying to spot people that conceal carry. Ever see a guy wearing a fanny-pack? What about a "photography vest"?


I live in PA. I don't recall seeing anything about the gun havign to be concealed, but ill double check now that you guys mentioned that.

Although thats not why i was asking. i was asking because even with my small frame Bersa Thunder, its hard to conceal without a coat. sure, my shirts can cover the gun, but you can still see the bulge of it.

so do you guys just not worry about the bulge then? i wanted it to be completely concealed and was wondering how people pulled it off.

wear looser fitting clothing when you carry.

i don't think i can get any looser
 

Mutilator

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
OP, in what state are you carrying? Typically, the law is written so that the firearms is covered and out of sight. Depending on how your state law is written, "concealed" doesn't mean that the firearm can't "print". Printing is having the outline of a firearm visible; wearing a tight fitting shirt pulled over the firearm.

In Virginia, I've carried in a side holster with a t shirt tucked in to my pants and just an open, unbuttoned shirt over the top. Careful doing that in your state. Some state's have laws about proper concealment as well as their own definition of brandishing. Also, check up on your state's open carry laws. They will both tie together and can help protect you if you ever accidentally and innocently expose your firearm. Read them and know them well!

People that aren't into guns or know the law will not even realize you have a firearm. It's just not something people think about if they aren't into the hobby or have a permit of their own.

The fun is you trying to spot people that conceal carry. Ever see a guy wearing a fanny-pack? What about a "photography vest"?


I live in PA. I don't recall seeing anything about the gun havign to be concealed, but ill double check now that you guys mentioned that.

Although thats not why i was asking. i was asking because even with my small frame Bersa Thunder, its hard to conceal without a coat. sure, my shirts can cover the gun, but you can still see the bulge of it.

so do you guys just not worry about the bulge then? i wanted it to be completely concealed and was wondering how people pulled it off.

wear looser fitting clothing when you carry.

i don't think i can get any looser
What type of holster do you have now? IWB? OWB? Where are you carrying it?
Personally the holsters I've looked at are the smartcarry, comp-tac CTAC, and the Crossbreed Supertuck. All of these should greatly limit the printing if not elminate it compared to an OWB holster.

 

AMCRambler

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They make guns with hinged butts on them so that you can fold it up and put it in a front pants pocket holster. There's also tons of smaller size pistols that will fit easily in a pocket.
 

pontifex

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the one i have is in the 1st pic but its hard to really see it.
it looks a lot like the 3rd pic except its for autos, not revolvers, and its nylon, not leather.
 

Mutilator

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So it's an Uncle Mike's that goes Outside your Waist Band (OWB). That's your problem right there. ;)
Cheap + OWB = Printing galore.

Spend the $$ and get a good IWB holster, or the smartcarry if you're comfortable with a gun down there. ;)
 

pontifex

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Mutilator
So it's an Uncle Mike's that goes Outside your Waist Band (OWB). That's your problem right there. ;)
Cheap + OWB = Printing galore.

Spend the $$ and get a good IWB holster, or the smartcarry if you're comfortable with a gun down there. ;)

IWB just seems extremely uncomfortable.
 

JDMnAR1

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Originally posted by: pontifex
IWB just seems extremely uncomfortable.

I don't find it to be - however if you do, then that is not an option for you. If it is uncomfortable, then you won't use it. I have this one for my two Colt Gov't models (.45 and .380). I also have this for my .380 when wearing a light jacket, and a Bianchi Scorpio shoulder rig (out of production) for my .45. My next purchase will probably be something more like this.

 

Minjin

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
OP, in what state are you carrying? Typically, the law is written so that the firearms is covered and out of sight. Depending on how your state law is written, "concealed" doesn't mean that the firearm can't "print". Printing is having the outline of a firearm visible; wearing a tight fitting shirt pulled over the firearm.

In Virginia, I've carried in a side holster with a t shirt tucked in to my pants and just an open, unbuttoned shirt over the top. Careful doing that in your state. Some state's have laws about proper concealment as well as their own definition of brandishing. Also, check up on your state's open carry laws. They will both tie together and can help protect you if you ever accidentally and innocently expose your firearm. Read them and know them well!

People that aren't into guns or know the law will not even realize you have a firearm. It's just not something people think about if they aren't into the hobby or have a permit of their own.

The fun is you trying to spot people that conceal carry. Ever see a guy wearing a fanny-pack? What about a "photography vest"?


I live in PA. I don't recall seeing anything about the gun havign to be concealed, but ill double check now that you guys mentioned that.

Although thats not why i was asking. i was asking because even with my small frame Bersa Thunder, its hard to conceal without a coat. sure, my shirts can cover the gun, but you can still see the bulge of it.

so do you guys just not worry about the bulge then? i wanted it to be completely concealed and was wondering how people pulled it off.

In PA, open carry is allowed. No permit needed. You need a permit to concealed carry. You don't generally see people open carry because the public is easily frightened. I'm almost surprised some one or some group hasn't organized an Open Carry Day to illustrate that it is perfectly legal.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Minjin

In PA, open carry is allowed. No permit needed. You need a permit to concealed carry. You don't generally see people open carry because the public is easily frightened. I'm almost surprised some one or some group hasn't organized an Open Carry Day to illustrate that it is perfectly legal.

Concealed carry is also safer for you. Out of sight means a criminal cannot sneak up behind you and disarm you. It means a criminal does not target you first because he knows you're armed. It also keeps criminals guessing. They don't know who is armed, and who isn't. CC helps keep even non-CCers safe.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
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This is one of the things I really like about Vermont, no permit is required for CC.
 

adairusmc

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I have a few different concealed carry combinations I use from time to time.

In the winter time, when I am usually always wearing a long sleeved shirt or jacket, I use a Galco Miami Classic holster, with a Kimber Desert Warrior 1911

Most of the time, I use an HK P7m8 with a Milt-Sparks Versa Max holster. This is by far my favorite combo to carry.

I have a Galco IWB holster for my Glock19 as well, and sometimes I carry that. Not very often though.
 

bcoupland

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As a Canadian, I rather like the idea of concealed carry. I mean, since criminals don't care that their firearms are illegal and will use them regardless of federal law (except for something like extremely harsh sentences, i.e. death penalty for owning firearms), I think that it is rather prudent for lawful citizens to be able to protect themselves, their families, and others with a concealed firearm. As long as proper checks and balances are implemented and abuse of concealed carry is minimized, I don't see why people shouldn't be allowed to carry a pistol to protect themselves. Although there are many things that I like about my country, our illogical gun regulations are in need of revision. Now, I don't really agree with toting an assault rifle to the mall, but I do think that it is a right to take personal safety into our own hands.