Comscore -- Android gains market by 5.1%. Microsoft continues to lose market share..

[zoiks]

Apple increases by 1.4% (not including iPad). RIM keeps going downhill.

Comscore.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-2...t-share/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

How is Steve Jobs Health?

 

[Oyeve]

Palm is still out there???

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Apple increases by 1.4% (not including iPad). RIM keeps going downhill.

Comscore.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-2...t-share/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

Well yea, the article says handsets so why would you need to even mention iPad's exclusion? They might use the same (similiar?) OSes, but they're different markets. If you're talking about AMD discreet video card market share you don't add in parens (not including opterons).

 

[zoiks]

Well yea, the article says handsets so why would you need to even mention iPad's exclusion? They might use the same (similiar?) OSes, but they're different markets. If you're talking about AMD discreet video card market share you don't add in parens (not including opterons).

Dude. Are your panties in a bunch? I made the thread and I wrote down iPad exclusion before someone wailed that the numbers only indicate smartphones.
Although sounds like you wouldn't be happy either way

 

[zerocool84]

I guess those $50 iPhones aren't helping enough. You would think a cheap iPhone would get a ton more people on it.

 

[Imp]

That's great news. MSFT is getting/going to get, what, $5-$15 per Android sale?

 

[Genx87]

Surprised RIM still has that kind of market share.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I guess those $50 iPhones aren't helping enough. You would think a cheap iPhone would get a ton more people on it.

We're talking some pretty massive numbers here, that the iPhone is able to gain at all is impressive. We're talking a year old and 2 year old phone still adding market share versus the seeming monthly releases of Android phones...

I've had 4 Android phones since the iP4 came out...

 

[Bateluer]

Surprised RIM still has that kind of market share.

There's a lot of them still in the corporate world, your Curves, Bolds, and Tours.

 

[cheezy321]

I guess those $50 iPhones aren't helping enough. You would think a cheap iPhone would get a ton more people on it.

You still have to sign a 2 year contract in most cases. I wish they would let us know how many android activations are done on month-to-month / prepaid plans. I have a feeling this is a huge market for android.

 

[badb0y]

When all is said and done, Apple will probably control 10-15% of the market share. You can quote me on this one, it's the same exact shit that happened to them in PC market.

Funny thing is they will still be making bank on these phones.

WOW, RIM is still pretty high up there in the 20s I thought they would be dead by now. Internet sensationalism at it's best.

 

[QueBert]

I guess those $50 iPhones aren't helping enough. You would think a cheap iPhone would get a ton more people on it.

Apple has basically 2 handsets, where there are dozens of Android phones. And they still managed to pull 1.4% where Google pulled a bit over 3x that with how many phones? Drop Android to 2 devices and that 5.1% would be a negative number. It would probably be negative too if you took away for the $50/$99/free and BYGO deals too. My dad and step mom wouldn't have even gotten Android phones if they didn't get one for 50$ with the 2nd free.

 

[Mopetar]

When all is said and done, Apple will probably control 10-15% of the market share. You can quote me on this one, it's the same exact shit that happened to them in PC market.

I doubt it'll be that low. They'll more likely end up with at least 20%. Eventually the iPhone will be on every US carrier and other platforms don't offer enough compelling reasons to marginalize the iPhone to below 20% market share.

Funny thing is they will still be making bank on these phones.

The market is growing so fast that everyone is making bank.

WOW, RIM is still pretty high up there in the 20s I thought they would be dead by now. Internet sensationalism at it's best.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics. They do have a problem though. Here's some Nielson charts that show why they're in a bad position.

There are still a lot of people who own BlackBerry phones, but fewer and fewer people are purchasing them. RIM's former customers are moving to Android, iOS, or some other platform. They're probably not as doomed as the media desperately needs sensationalist headlines, but they're in a steady decline.

 

[abaez]

edit: nm

 

[Red Storm]

Apple has basically 2 handsets, where there are dozens of Android phones. And they still managed to pull 1.4% where Google pulled a bit over 3x that with how many phones? Drop Android to 2 devices and that 5.1% would be a negative number. It would probably be negative too if you took away for the $50/$99/free and BYGO deals too. My dad and step mom wouldn't have even gotten Android phones if they didn't get one for 50$ with the 2nd free.

Seems like Google made a smart move then. I personally like having a variety of handsets to choose from, and apparently a lot of other people do as well.

 

[alent1234]

When all is said and done, Apple will probably control 10-15% of the market share. You can quote me on this one, it's the same exact shit that happened to them in PC market.

Funny thing is they will still be making bank on these phones.

WOW, RIM is still pretty high up there in the 20s I thought they would be dead by now. Internet sensationalism at it's best.

doesn't matter since apple takes home most of the profits and the iOS developers make more on average than android developers. long list of successful companies that made huge profits but had minority of market share

 

[Tom]

The tale is still being told. The Verizon iphone hasn't been available long enough yet. And Android sales are coming at the expense of rim, not Apple.

My prediction, Android will continue to gain marketshare in the "free", low cost end of the smartphone market; but Apple will dominate the high end "$199" smartphone market.

Rim better come up with something compelling soon or they're history.

 

[cheezy321]

The tale is still being told. The Verizon iphone hasn't been available long enough yet. And Android sales are coming at the expense of rim, not Apple.

My prediction, Android will continue to gain marketshare in the "free", low cost end of the smartphone market; but Apple will dominate the high end "$199" smartphone market.

Rim better come up with something compelling soon or they're history.

This. Apple needs to put out a low end contract free phone for under $200 or else android will simply dominate them in the low end category.

 

[alent1234]

knowing apple they'll probably do it. with the ipod they started at the expensive end and then added cheaper models.

 

[Mopetar]

Would be fairly difficult to put out a decent phone for under $200. Apple probably isn't worried about that market as the profit margins are too thin for their liking. From their perspective it would be better to keep pumping out new models of iPhones and let the old models be resold into that market. Realistically, they're not going to be any worse than something sold for $200.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Would be fairly difficult to put out a decent phone for under $200. Apple probably isn't worried about that market as the profit margins are too thin for their liking. From their perspective it would be better to keep pumping out new models of iPhones and let the old models be resold into that market. Realistically, they're not going to be any worse than something sold for $200.

It would be difficult to slot a $200 device into Apple's line up.

The cheapest iPod Touch is $229, a contract free phone would likely run $299+ to fit into Apple's cost structure. I'm thinking $329 for a cheap, 8GB phone is about what it'd have to go for. 3GS screen and internals updated case, 3G and CDMA radios (maybe the new CDMA/GSM radio chipset...)

The US market isn't really what they're looking at, more of a BIC device, (Brazil, India, China).

 

[QueBert]

Seems like Google made a smart move then. I personally like having a variety of handsets to choose from, and apparently a lot of other people do as well.

So they have way more handsets and end up selling way more of them, stop the presses. I wouldn't say people like the variety, I'd say it's more there are so many handsets out there of course it's going to do better. The iPhone 4 vastly outsell any single Android phone, which means people actually want iPhones more right? Verizon's single biggest phone launch was the iPhone 4, which when it came out was already half a year old with a new model in the semi near future. And even with it being Verizon's best launch, it was still considered a pretty big failure overall. What does that say about Android phones?

Google was smart on making sure dozens of devices got out there. And Moto/LG/Samsung were smart to get the phones on ghetto services like MetroPCS & Cricket. Also the pre-paid provicders like Boost & Virgin. They used brute force to come out ahead. But the downside is Google doesn't give a shit about the user experience, using an Android on MetroPCS is painful, speedtests give me about 40k in my area which is worse than dial up speeds. They don't seem to care about sacrificing quality just to get more penetration.

 

[theeedude]

You can get Android on any carrier you want. You trying to make it sound like a bad thing is a bit silly.

 

[Mopetar]

It would be difficult to slot a $200 device into Apple's line up.

The cheapest iPod Touch is $229, a contract free phone would likely run $299+ to fit into Apple's cost structure. I'm thinking $329 for a cheap, 8GB phone is about what it'd have to go for. 3GS screen and internals updated case, 3G and CDMA radios (maybe the new CDMA/GSM radio chipset...)

The US market isn't really what they're looking at, more of a BIC device, (Brazil, India, China).

Why not just sell refurbished or left-over iPhones from a previous generation? They're decent devices and, like I said, probably better than anything that anyone could build for $200.

There's a reason that RIM and Nokia did so well in these areas. It's because you could make a half-decent BlackBerry or Symbian phone for that price. It'll be a while before Android, iOS, WP7, etc. will be able to make a good device in that price range.