Computers nowadays run WAY TOO HOT!!! Anandtech should put more info about thermal output in reviews...

[m1ldslide1]

My 3700+ idles around 28 these days with 2 case exhausts and 2 intakes (plus cable management, AS5,etc). Whenever it's getting a bit hot in my apartment, I fire up my PC and it cools it right back down. :laugh:

 

[w00t]

get water cooling?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: xtknight
My PC doesn't run hot at all. 30C on CPU/idle and 40C/idle on video card, not much higher on load IIRC. (Shameless plug.)

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Wasn't the average in 1995 like 25W? I'd really like to see more ratings that show how much heat components put out.

Not surprisingly, the average time it takes to start WinXP on that same CPU is also probably near 5 minutes. Why don't you just get a decent water-cooling system? You won't have to worry about heat ever again for quite a while, nor noise. Me, I can't hear the fan noise when I have my headphones on, which is about 90% of the time I'm using my PC. At 2D it's barely audible period due to the automatic fan slow-down, and in 3D you're almost always playing games and have sound blasting anyway. Is 5 degrees that big of a deal? Such is the trade-off with 300 million transistors in one small space.

It was less than that. My Pentium 3 1.4GHz is only 30 watts and it was released in 2000-2001. In 1995 sometimes you needed a heatsink and sometimes you didn't. And in some cases a heatsink was considered optional but required. I think in 1995 they used about 5-10 watts and were cool to the touch. CPU sockets in 1995 did not have the mounting system for a heatsink. Socket 7 was the first socket to incorporate at HSF mounting system.

Socket 6 was pentium pro, I do not remember if they needed HSF; but I think it did and I do remember reading about thermals becoming an issue back then when it was released in late 1996/early '97.

 

[OvErHeAtInG]

Originally posted by: w00t
get water cooling?

The OP was complaining about the heat output of his PC. Whether you cool with air or water, you're still radiating the thermal waste into the room.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
I live in FL.. when I run my linux box (old 900mhz Athlon), there is no noticeable change in my room temperature. But, when I run my Windows box (2500+ Barton, Radeon 9500 modded to 9700), my room gets about 3-5 degrees warmer. The next computer I build, I'd like to be able to run it 24/7 without it causing me to have to run my AC all the time just to offset the amount of heat it puts out..

My roommates' computers are even more nuts than mine.. and they're nothing by todays' standards (9800 Pros, 3000+ Athlons).

AH hahhaaha yes I hear you on the Barton 2500+. Mine definitely heats up the room, and my spot by the computer especially.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
and 2-5 degrees hotter in your room doesnt make much difference. 70 degrees to 75 degrees is not that noticeable.

The hell it isn't! It feels significantly cooler in my room when it drops a SINGLE degree, from 82f to 81f.

 

[gsellis]

If we tune those components the OP is complaining about back to what the OP is probably comparing it to, it will most likely run cooler than the 'baseline' of yesterday's computers. It is working "as designed".

If you take a 302 V-8, bore it out, change the cam, add nitrous, add nitromethane, and do other performance engine mods (turbo/supercharger), it will get a lot more horsepower. Oh, and it will run a lot hotter. Funny how that works. More work = more opportunity for heat or inefficiency.

 

[thorin]

Originally posted by: Looney
Stupid thread, stupid suggestion.

Heh that's just tooo funny what a perfect example of "There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers".


brxndxn as you can see many of us agree, however this is a poor audience in which to state people are ignorant (the majority here are enthusiasts and well aware of their heat output).

Also as you can see many companies are working to lower power consumption (the main byproduct of which is heat), and also as you've noted there are no end of solutions to the current problem, bigger HeatSinks, liquid cooling, etc...

The next computer I build, I'd like to be able to run it 24/7 without it causing me to have to run my AC all the time just to offset the amount of heat it puts out..

What's your major concern here? This is easily accomplished with a little planning and minimal work. Yes it would be nice if you could do it with no work or planning and companies are trying to get back to that point but it's going to take time. Unfortunately consumers demand more and more horesepower, unfortunately to accomodate our "needs" manufacturer's have limited choices working within the confines of current manufacturing technologies etc....

 

[w00t]

Originally posted by: OvErHeAtInG

Originally posted by: w00t
get water cooling?

The OP was complaining about the heat output of his PC. Whether you cool with air or water, you're still radiating the thermal waste into the room.

the pc will output less since water cools better than air. I am basically saying it's going to be less than air cooling.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: w00t

Originally posted by: OvErHeAtInG

Originally posted by: w00t
get water cooling?

The OP was complaining about the heat output of his PC. Whether you cool with air or water, you're still radiating the thermal waste into the room.

the pc will output less since water cools better than air. I am basically saying it's going to be less than air cooling.

No, it would be the same net heat. The water cools it better, but the heat is still constant. It does not make the thermal output less, just handles it more efficiently. It would be the same if it were using Sodium (which would not work as the temps aren't in the range for using Na).