Originally posted by: Joker81
legacy products don't really waste money they only waste physical space. If you can make a computer %10 smaller by getting rid of legacy products then im all for it. Most people who do need legacy products have an old computer anyways to use them all.
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Is it just me, or are the laptops and desktops made by companies like Dell and Gateway turning into complete junk?
Desktops being made completely out of flimsy & brittle plastic. The omission of things like floppy drives in desktops and laptops. In all but a few laptops shipped by Dell they don't have PS/2, Serial, or Parallel port on them.
Warranties on all products are down to a bare minimum. Remember when all machines shipped with a 3 years warranty on parts? Hell, even computer parts companies are getting cheap on warranties. Hard drives almost always carried 3 year warranties on them. Now you can hardly find one with more than a year's warranty on it.
Yes, things are cheaper than they ever were, but at what cost? On the latest laptop I bought from Dell, the track pad is so chintzy that pushing on it with your finger wields a gap between it and the trim that you could slide something as thick as a CD into the gap.
Man...I feel like Ornery complaining about cars...but I want my rugged keytronics keyboards, I/O ports, and decent build construction back. 🙁
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: Joker81
legacy products don't really waste money they only waste physical space. If you can make a computer %10 smaller by getting rid of legacy products then im all for it. Most people who do need legacy products have an old computer anyways to use them all.
If 90%+ of all shipping and currently sold keyboards are PS/2 THEN IT ISN'T A LEGACY PRODUCT.
There's is a very limited selection of USB keyboards, and the ones that are are very overpriced or have about 50 billion extra buttons of no use to them.
Originally posted by: brtspears2
Pick two .. Quality, price, or features.
Originally posted by: vi_edit
I can live without a floppy drive, even though for compatibility, quickness, and cost they are still useful in a non-networked environment or for machines that need a quick NIC driver.
The omission of a PS/2 port and a parallel port is just a PITA. Most laptops ship with 2 USB ports. A few have more, but 2 is pretty much the standard. Since you don't have a parallel port you have to go USB. Throw on a mouse and you just spent your available USB ports and can't add on a keyboard or a camera without picking up a USB hub.
Of course, you can always pick up docking stations or port replicators but those are anywhere from $100-$200.
I don't agree that "the consumer wants this". USB printers are a much bigger PITA to work with driver wise than parallel printers. USB keyboards ARE more expensive than non-usb keyboards and the ones that are available have goofy f lock keys and a ton of "multimedia" buttons that make for huge sized keyboards.
There's a difference between leading edge and bleeding edge.
Most laptops that come with 2 usb ports also come with PS/2 ports, so your argument is moot. I don't think I've ever seen a laptop that didn't come with both, and you can get a USB Hub for $12.50 shipped at newegg. If you can afford a laptop, but a thirteen dollar USB hub is too expensive for you, maybe you should have bought a cheaper laptop?
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Most laptops that come with 2 usb ports also come with PS/2 ports, so your argument is moot. I don't think I've ever seen a laptop that didn't come with both, and you can get a USB Hub for $12.50 shipped at newegg. If you can afford a laptop, but a thirteen dollar USB hub is too expensive for you, maybe you should have bought a cheaper laptop?
No, they don't.
The only Inspiron line of laptops currently available that has a PS/2 (that I'm aware of) is the beastly 8XXX line which decks in at over 10 pounds. Only one line of Gateways have them. Only one line of IBMs have them.
They are hard to find on Toshiba, and very few Sony's include them as well.
It just irks me that I have to bump up to a $500 or more expensive product for a freaking port that costs less than a buck probably in parts.