Computer Suddenly Turning off, then Won't POST

orty

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OK, this is really driving me nuts here, as this computer's been running fine (minus a few little quirks, which I'm partially blaming on the motherboard).

OK, here's the situation. Sometimes when I'm working in Windows 2000 (haven't seen if this a problem in Win98, as I have that installed as well), the computer will just spontaneously shut off. Sometimes if will happen if I move the computer slightly (which happens a bit now and again as my office is under construction) or it'll just BSOD out of nowhere, or it'll just go black and reboot. But upon rebooting, the thing won't POST. It's not something that happens when I do a certain chain of events, or anything, so it's horribly unpredictable. :|

The only way I can get the computer to boot is if I kill the master switch on the power supply (to turn the computer completely off, as the power button won't always work as it's an ATX), turn it back on and let it sit for at least a minute (any less and it won't work), then hit the power button. Then the power LED comes on (it didn't before) and the monitor pops on and then it POSTs and boots. Otherwise, I turn it on, the Power LED never comes on (I hear the drives spinning up) and the monitor doesn't get a signal, and it never boots.

I thought maybe the RAM was loose, so I opened it up and reseated it, still had problems. Made sure the video card was seated properly, ran CHKDSK on all my drives, and made sure that all the power cables and things were properly plugged into the various drives.

I'm stuck. Here's what I have in my system before I let you know what I think it might be (and you can tell me I'm wrong ;)

-Retail PIII 450 sitting on a Tyan Tiger 100 (1832) board (a dual proc board, with one proc)...I think it's a revision B, which may be part of the problem, as revision F is newest revision of the board.
-160 megs of PC100 ram (a 128 meg stick and a 32 meg stick)
-A 250 W generic powersupply (it's pretty cheapy, so it could be shorting out)
-Generic Full Tower Case
-2 Western Digital HDs (a 7200 RPM 20 gig and a 5400 8.4 gig, hooked to my Promise Ultra DMS 66 PCI Card).
-Other Cards: SBLive, ATI All In Wonder 128, 3com network card, Digicom Modem Blaster.

I have this gut feeling that there's a short somewhere, or something's gone bad, as this only started happening this week. Something may have been just smacked around a bit too hard or something, I don't know...ideas??? Please help! PM, email, or post here. My brain is to fried to think right now ;)

Thanks!
-orty
 

Usul

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Try with the newest bios revision, might be a bios/w2k/power management problem.

My 2 cents
 

orty

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It's got the newest BIOS. It's dated, but it's the newest one that Tyan has. Other ideas?

-orty
 

whalen

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I've got kinda the same prob w/ random reboots, and I'm gonna swap in a new power supply as soon as it comes in...
 

Yknot

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Recently had the same rebooting problem with an ABit BE6: had to [re]boot twice, with a pause, to get it to POST. Swapped out everything but the M/B, but this problem continued, and flashing a new BIOS didn't help. At least it didn't crash spontaneously -- any more often than Win98 otherwise does. :p

I cured it by moving to an AMD TBird and compatible M/B [ABit KT7]... and threw in a 430 watt P/S [Enermax] and a 21" monitor [2040u] while I was at it -- I deserved a treat for wasting so much time trying to fix the ah heck. 'Hopefully your solution will be cheaper! :)

Try for a warrantee replacement M/B from your vendor, or just buy a new M/B: alas, your problem is that you've a slot-1 M/B in a socket-[1/A] world.

Lotsa luck with it...
 

orty

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Yeah, I know I'm hurting a bit as I've got a slot in a socket world, but a dual slot with slockets can do some damage (my next upgrade...gonna buy me a pair of MSI slockets and a couple of matching celeron 500s, and get them up to 750...that's the hope, anyway). Running a couple of those on this board (found out it is a revision B so I'm going to send it back to the factory I think) should make it scream right along in Win2k, Linux, and BeOS 5.

-Jake
 

TravisBickle

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I don't want to suggest you're stupid, but check that you haven't got some BIOS power management in effect. I was surprised when my computer switched itself off last week, because the temp had gone over the threshold I set.