Computer Science Majors?

[Ameesh]

If you want a good job and you are a CS major in college, do internships, as many as you can. Work on different style projects using different technologies and you will have no problem finding ajob after you graduate.

PS: If you think tier 2 tech support qualifies as an internship be prepared to be tier 3 tech support when you gradute.

 

[Ranger X]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
CS is hurting... Info Sys Design and Management is still alright... Thank god Im an info sys major and not a CS one...

Give me a fvckin vreak youre a CS flunkie thats why you are MIS or Info Sys or whatever the fvck you want to call it. Computer Science was too hard for you so you gave to plug routers and switchs together and be some sort of bs paper/email pusher.

Haha! I have to agree with Ameesh on this one. MIS is a joke. I've read the curriculum for MIS majors and CS majors and I must say, MIS is much simpler than CS.

 

[EmperorIQ]

going into a minor in accounting, i hope the business part will help me a lot as well.

 

[EmperorIQ]

*up top*

.... um yea, i was quoting someone, but i didn't press the quote button. . . at work right now

 

[EmperorIQ]

thanks everyone for your input. I really appreciate it. Most of you guys even helped me motivate a little to explore areas outside of school and instead of getting an excellent gpa.

 

[sman789]

freshman in CS, teachin us java...were the first school to do it (or one of the first)
last year it was C++

dayum i miss C++

1st semester almost over, if you remember my thread....i think im gonna stick with CS

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Ranger X

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
CS is hurting... Info Sys Design and Management is still alright... Thank god Im an info sys major and not a CS one...

Give me a fvckin vreak youre a CS flunkie thats why you are MIS or Info Sys or whatever the fvck you want to call it. Computer Science was too hard for you so you gave to plug routers and switchs together and be some sort of bs paper/email pusher.

Haha! I have to agree with Ameesh on this one. MIS is a joke. I've read the curriculum for MIS majors and CS majors and I must say, MIS is much simpler than CS.

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

Let the arguing commence!

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Ranger X

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs CS is hurting... Info Sys Design and Management is still alright... Thank god Im an info sys major and not a CS one...

Give me a fvckin vreak youre a CS flunkie thats why you are MIS or Info Sys or whatever the fvck you want to call it. Computer Science was too hard for you so you gave to plug routers and switchs together and be some sort of bs paper/email pusher.

Haha! I have to agree with Ameesh on this one. MIS is a joke. I've read the curriculum for MIS majors and CS majors and I must say, MIS is much simpler than CS.

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

how is EE > CompE > CS ?

CompE is a mix of EE and CS, EE is straight hardware with little or no focus on Software and CS is the opposite.

MIS is just a dumbed down CS ciriculum.

 

[gopunk]

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

Let the arguing commence!

well i hate to disappoint

i have to disagree with your ranking... i think for EE, CE, CS, it really depends on what courses you're taking and what you happen to be good at. you can be a genius with EE courses and just breeze through them but have a ton of trouble with a cs theory course. or vice versa.

and as far as perception goes, i think it depends on your school. i think at most other schools, EE is hardest to get into, but at mine, CSE is recognized as the hardest dept to get into while EE tends to be larger in size and thus less elite.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Ranger X

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs CS is hurting... Info Sys Design and Management is still alright... Thank god Im an info sys major and not a CS one...

Give me a fvckin vreak youre a CS flunkie thats why you are MIS or Info Sys or whatever the fvck you want to call it. Computer Science was too hard for you so you gave to plug routers and switchs together and be some sort of bs paper/email pusher.

Haha! I have to agree with Ameesh on this one. MIS is a joke. I've read the curriculum for MIS majors and CS majors and I must say, MIS is much simpler than CS.

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

how is EE > CompE > CS ?

CompE is a mix of EE and CS, EE is straight hardware with little or no focus on Software and CS is the opposite.

MIS is just a dumbed down CS ciriculum.

That's just what I think and dozens upon dozens of engineers that I know think that, too. How is it not EE > CompE > CS?

EE is not straight hardware. You don't even know what the hell you're talking about!

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

Let the arguing commence!

well i hate to disappoint

i have to disagree with your ranking... i think for EE, CE, CS, it really depends on what courses you're taking and what you happen to be good at. you can be a genius with EE courses and just breeze through them but have a ton of trouble with a cs theory course. or vice versa.

I think that generally EE or CompE is harder than CS...of course plenty of schools can differ, but that's what I generally see and hear...anyways, everyone here always complains about all of the 'dumb' CS graduates, so that must mean something.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

Let the arguing commence!

well i hate to disappoint

i have to disagree with your ranking... i think for EE, CE, CS, it really depends on what courses you're taking and what you happen to be good at. you can be a genius with EE courses and just breeze through them but have a ton of trouble with a cs theory course. or vice versa.

Oh yeah, definitely. But that applies to everything from philosophy, chemical engineering, etc.

 

[gopunk]

That's just what I think and dozens upon dozens of engineers that I know think that, too. How is it not EE > CompE > CS?

EE is not straight hardware. You don't even know what the hell you're talking about!

isn't EE just a bunch of repeated calculations basically? that's what my CE friend tells me... he says his CS classes are harder than his EE classes.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: gopunk

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

Let the arguing commence!

well i hate to disappoint

i have to disagree with your ranking... i think for EE, CE, CS, it really depends on what courses you're taking and what you happen to be good at. you can be a genius with EE courses and just breeze through them but have a ton of trouble with a cs theory course. or vice versa.

Oh yeah, definitely. But that applies to everything from philosophy, chemical engineering, etc.

but you have to look at transferability. whereas most other majors find computer science to be rediculously hard, most computer science majors will not feel the same way about other majors. what i'm saying is that i think these numbers are about equal for EE and CS. i don't think that there are a lot more EE majors that would succeed in CS than there are CS majors that would succeed in EE. a lot of EE majors i know went into EE because they were scared of the programming.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: gopunk

That's just what I think and dozens upon dozens of engineers that I know think that, too. How is it not EE > CompE > CS?

EE is not straight hardware. You don't even know what the hell you're talking about!

isn't EE just a bunch of repeated calculations basically? that's what my CE friend tells me... he says his CS classes are harder than his EE classes.

Nope! Sure some of the fields can be math intensive. EE is a very diverse field. BME, CS, CompE all are sort of sprung off from it. I seriously think you can split an EE program into several more majors and some schools do (Optical Engineering, etc.).

It's never plug and chug into calculations unless you have a weak program at your school? It can be math, science, programming, hardware, etc. intensive.

I was essentially 1 or 2 courses away from a CS major... I got a minor in it (I'm an EE). Again, it's just my opinion and you can share yours, too. There were some brilliant people in my CS courses and dumbasses in my EE courses (but a lot less than in CS!)

 

[EmperorIQ]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Ranger X

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs CS is hurting... Info Sys Design and Management is still alright... Thank god Im an info sys major and not a CS one...

Give me a fvckin vreak youre a CS flunkie thats why you are MIS or Info Sys or whatever the fvck you want to call it. Computer Science was too hard for you so you gave to plug routers and switchs together and be some sort of bs paper/email pusher.

Haha! I have to agree with Ameesh on this one. MIS is a joke. I've read the curriculum for MIS majors and CS majors and I must say, MIS is much simpler than CS.

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

how is EE > CompE > CS ?

CompE is a mix of EE and CS, EE is straight hardware with little or no focus on Software and CS is the opposite.

MIS is just a dumbed down CS ciriculum.

wait a minute, i personally find all majors equal, at my school EE is pure hardware and the way CS&E and CS is structured, CS majors have more CS courses to take, and CS&E courses has less cs courses and 2 extra ee courses compared to cs majors. Also, i learn everything EE majors do in the lower division classes.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: gopunk

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

Let the arguing commence!

well i hate to disappoint

i have to disagree with your ranking... i think for EE, CE, CS, it really depends on what courses you're taking and what you happen to be good at. you can be a genius with EE courses and just breeze through them but have a ton of trouble with a cs theory course. or vice versa.

Oh yeah, definitely. But that applies to everything from philosophy, chemical engineering, etc.

but you have to look at transferability. whereas most other majors find computer science to be rediculously hard, most computer science majors will not feel the same way about other majors. what i'm saying is that i think these numbers are about equal for EE and CS. i don't think that there are a lot more EE majors that would succeed in CS than there are CS majors that would succeed in EE. a lot of EE majors i know went into EE because they were scared of the programming.

I honestly think they would find EE harder! Why are there so few EE graduates nowadays? I've always heard that you "drop out" in this order: EE > CompE > CS > whatever acronym. That doesn't mean that someone who is in CS is inferior to someone in EE or CompE, just how the general perceived difficult of the program is!

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: gopunk

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

Let the arguing commence!

well i hate to disappoint

i have to disagree with your ranking... i think for EE, CE, CS, it really depends on what courses you're taking and what you happen to be good at. you can be a genius with EE courses and just breeze through them but have a ton of trouble with a cs theory course. or vice versa.

Oh yeah, definitely. But that applies to everything from philosophy, chemical engineering, etc.

but you have to look at transferability. whereas most other majors find computer science to be rediculously hard, most computer science majors will not feel the same way about other majors. what i'm saying is that i think these numbers are about equal for EE and CS. i don't think that there are a lot more EE majors that would succeed in CS than there are CS majors that would succeed in EE. a lot of EE majors i know went into EE because they were scared of the programming.

You can do a lot of programming in EE, too. You can have whole courses that are basically MATLAB programs and others. Anyways, IMO, it's a lot easier to do CS than EE or CompE generally. Plenty of schools will be different. I generally found that the average person could work on CS work a lot easier than EE work. But then again, I'm biased Perhaps it just looks like that since so many more people usually go into CS instead of EE.

And to the original poster: Don't listen to people that say 'if you're CS ya gotta know that there indian language' - if you're good, you'll get a job.

 

[gopunk]

Nope! Sure some of the fields can be math intensive. EE is a very diverse field. BME, CS, CompE all are sort of sprung off from it. I seriously think you can split an EE program into several more majors and some schools do (Optical Engineering, etc.).

uh, how is CS sprung off of EE?

It's never plug and chug into calculations unless you have a weak program at your school? It can be math, science, programming, hardware, etc. intensive.

it's only weak compared to our CSE dept i dunno that's just what the guy said.. maybe he's just a genius at EE stuff.

 

[EmperorIQ]

[/quote]

but you have to look at transferability. whereas most other majors find computer science to be rediculously hard, most computer science majors will not feel the same way about other majors. what i'm saying is that i think these numbers are about equal for EE and CS. i don't think that there are a lot more EE majors that would succeed in CS than there are CS majors that would succeed in EE. a lot of EE majors i know went into EE because they were scared of the programming.[/quote]

agree~!

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Ranger X

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs CS is hurting... Info Sys Design and Management is still alright... Thank god Im an info sys major and not a CS one...

Give me a fvckin vreak youre a CS flunkie thats why you are MIS or Info Sys or whatever the fvck you want to call it. Computer Science was too hard for you so you gave to plug routers and switchs together and be some sort of bs paper/email pusher.

Haha! I have to agree with Ameesh on this one. MIS is a joke. I've read the curriculum for MIS majors and CS majors and I must say, MIS is much simpler than CS.

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

how is EE > CompE > CS ? CompE is a mix of EE and CS, EE is straight hardware with little or no focus on Software and CS is the opposite. MIS is just a dumbed down CS ciriculum.

That's just what I think and dozens upon dozens of engineers that I know think that, too. How is it not EE > CompE > CS? EE is not straight hardware. You don't even know what the hell you're talking about!

how many software classes does you EE Major have? post a link to your dept. website.

Here it is for UCSD:

EE Class Schedule, there is only one lower division CS class required.

CS Class schedule, very few Hardware Courses

-Ameesh

 

[gopunk]

I honestly think they would find EE harder! Why are there so few EE graduates nowadays? I've always heard that you "drop out" in this order: EE > CompE > CS > whatever acronym. That doesn't mean that someone who is in CS is inferior to someone in EE or CompE, just how the general perceived difficult of the program is!

yea so as i mentioned earlier, i think this has to do with the school... there are way more EE's than CSE's at my school.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: EmperorIQ

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Ranger X

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs CS is hurting... Info Sys Design and Management is still alright... Thank god Im an info sys major and not a CS one...

Give me a fvckin vreak youre a CS flunkie thats why you are MIS or Info Sys or whatever the fvck you want to call it. Computer Science was too hard for you so you gave to plug routers and switchs together and be some sort of bs paper/email pusher.

Haha! I have to agree with Ameesh on this one. MIS is a joke. I've read the curriculum for MIS majors and CS majors and I must say, MIS is much simpler than CS.

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

how is EE > CompE > CS ?

CompE is a mix of EE and CS, EE is straight hardware with little or no focus on Software and CS is the opposite.

MIS is just a dumbed down CS ciriculum.

wait a minute, i personally find all majors equal, at my school EE is pure hardware and the way CS&E and CS is structured, CS majors have more CS courses to take, and CS&E courses has less cs courses and 2 extra ee courses compared to cs majors. Also, i learn everything EE majors do in the lower division classes.

Trust me, it's probably not pure hardware there. Maybe the intro level courses in the freshman and sophomore years are (if you count circuits, microelectronics, digital logic, etc. as hardware), but they HAVE to have some other fields. People really don't understand how diverse the EE field is. It's absolutely inconceivable to think that they would be PURE hardware! It's like saying a philosophy major never reads books!

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Ranger X

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs CS is hurting... Info Sys Design and Management is still alright... Thank god Im an info sys major and not a CS one...

Give me a fvckin vreak youre a CS flunkie thats why you are MIS or Info Sys or whatever the fvck you want to call it. Computer Science was too hard for you so you gave to plug routers and switchs together and be some sort of bs paper/email pusher.

Haha! I have to agree with Ameesh on this one. MIS is a joke. I've read the curriculum for MIS majors and CS majors and I must say, MIS is much simpler than CS.

Of course something is always going to be generally perceived as easier/harder. EE > CompE > CS > MIS/(whatever gimmicky acronym), etc. (that order is just my opinion)

how is EE > CompE > CS ? CompE is a mix of EE and CS, EE is straight hardware with little or no focus on Software and CS is the opposite. MIS is just a dumbed down CS ciriculum.

That's just what I think and dozens upon dozens of engineers that I know think that, too. How is it not EE > CompE > CS? EE is not straight hardware. You don't even know what the hell you're talking about!

how many software classes does you EE Major have? post a link to your dept. website.

Here it is for UCSD:

<a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://http://www.ece.ucsd.edu:16080/current/recommended-schedulesEE.pdf" target=blank>EE Class Schedule, there is only one lower division CS class required.</A>

<a class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://http://www.cse.ucsd.edu/undergrad/degreeprograms/bs-cs.html" target=blank>CS Class schedule, very few Hardware Courses</A>

-Ameesh

So how are signals classes such as image processing a 'hardware' class? What about computer vision? These classes are almost primarily (depending on where you go) programming in MATLAB type classes. What about optics? Semiconductor physics? (the last two to show that not all are primarily hardware)

An EE major does not necessarily sit there and design circuits.

 

[bleeb]

Originally posted by: Jzero

I always assumed as long as we (computer science majors) worked hard and had a few connections we can get a decent career.

No, your friend is quite astute.
Pack your bags and move to India while the getting there is still good.