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Computer science grads/students

GodlessAstronomer

GodlessAstronomer

Lifer
I'm so sick of C programming. Yeah I get it, it's the best language for teaching algorithms and operating systems, but damn I hate this language. Arg! I miss my first year where they eased us in by using Java. I :heart: objects.

/rant-while-doing-homework
 
The CS students at my university rarely venture out of the Java world. They use assembly and C for the computer architecture class they take, but that is it.

The CE students use a mixture of Java and C. C is actually used a decent amount by engineers so it makes sense to use it. I can't see why you would teach C to a CS major though.
 
Originally posted by: Leros
The CS students at my university rarely venture out of the Java world. They use assembly and C for the computer architecture class they take, but that is it.

The CE students use a mixture of Java and C. C is actually used a decent amount by engineers so it makes sense to use it. I can't see why you would teach C to a CS major though.
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We've only ever used C, assembler and Java. Java we used a lot in first year, and it's used in the software engineering class. C is used almost exclusively in algorithms, operating systems and networking classes. We're finally branching out in the programming languages class by using... Prolog and Haskell. Sigh.
 
Originally posted by: Leros
I can see C for operating systems, but Java is a perfect language for teaching algorithms.
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I agree completely. Although I prefer C#, I think Java is an excellent teaching language because it doesn't force students onto any particular platform.
 
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: Leros
I can see C for operating systems, but Java is a perfect language for teaching algorithms.
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I agree completely. Although I prefer C#, I think Java is an excellent teaching language because it doesn't force students onto any particular platform.
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C# is basically the same thing as Java. Java is nice because the students can use whatever OS they want.
 
lots, but that was a long time ago. before any of this C# or .NET stuff. used it even more when i started working after graduation.

then i realized programming sucks and left the field. best thing i've ever done.
 
The class I'm in right now is C++, and the rest of the classes I have to take are either C/C++ or assembler.

I took Java in high school.
 
College consisted of C++ with an assembly class thrown in so you could learn the guts of a CPU

There was an elective Java class my last year, Java was new then, lol.

I dont know why colleges teach managed languages first nowadays. Just seems backwards.
 
Originally posted by: Train
College consisted of C++ with an assembly class thrown in so you could learn the guts of a CPU

There was an elective Java class my last year, Java was new then, lol.

I dont know why colleges teach managed languages first nowadays. Just seems backwards.
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You can either teach top down or bottom up.

We started with transistors, slowly built that up to a computer, then learned assembly, then learned C, then learned Java...
 
C is an elegant, small language, and what you learn from it also helps in C++ and other variants, not to mention the many domains which are still dominated by C, or if not, still have some legacy hooks / components.

It's also a horrible language for trapping noobs, as you can create problems you won't find or fix in time -- problems that are much rarer when the system is doing all the memory management / low-level addressing, which is why Java and its ilk are better and more common choices for learning languages and droves of programmers.
 
My intro class was in C, and was extremely hard. I got a B somehow but quickly switched majors. I honestly don't know how I even passed, much less got a B.
 
C and only C. By the time I had my undergrad I was a well trained C bigot. C is still the language to learn if you really want to learn how to program.
 
The classes I've taken have only used C++, besides other small languages for programming robots and such. However, I'm still in low level courses, so this will probably change over time.
 
was all C/C++, assembly and C#

Oh actually we did 1 project using Java, it's like C with training wheels and IMO doesn't teach enough low level memory management techniques and theories to be used exclusively.

And it isn't used a whole lot for what I do.

I also don't understand why people learn Java first and then move to C/C++ seems backwards to me. Teach the fundamentals with C/C++ and introduce OO Programming then move onto Java/C#.
 
The only class in my CS degree program that uses java is Object Oriented Design. The rest has been C++, x86 and MIPS assembly.
 
C is not all that great, but C++ is where it's at.

Sadly in my course it DRAGGED. I mean, we'd get 3 months of review, and a few weeks of actual new stuff. Think the most complicated thing we did was a you vs computer battleship game. zomg, I can use rand! Well mine was smarter, but to get an A the requirements were not all that high. 😛 I just liked to overdo things, and somehow still manage to help everybody in the class.
 
Not a CS major, but on the EE side of EECS. Of the required courses, we had: 1 class Scheme, 1 class C & MIPS asm, 1 class Java (algorithms and data structures). Non-required, our OS course used Java. Not sure what all the others used. I know one used Python. One was more open-ended so you could probably use whatever you want. Anyway, C & asm didn't show up a whole lot after that one course (except with microcontrollers, but I didn't use those until after graduating).
 
Originally posted by: esun
Not a CS major, but on the EE side of EECS. Of the required courses, we had: 1 class Scheme, 1 class C & MIPS asm, 1 class Java (algorithms and data structures). Non-required, our OS course used Java. Not sure what all the others used. I know one used Python. One was more open-ended so you could probably use whatever you want. Anyway, C & asm didn't show up a whole lot after that one course (except with microcontrollers, but I didn't use those until after graduating).
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I kinda wish I had went to a college that used Scheme or Lisp, at least at the introductory level like MIT or Harvard does.

 
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