Computer locking up in the middle of booting.

[Markfw]

So I have been having problems on a "new" build but with lots of it old hardware.
ASrock X58 extreme motherboard.
Intel 940 CPU
Hyper 212 cooler
2 different kinds of memory
2 SATA HD's and one SSD
AX850 Corsair PSU (had a TX650 first)
GTX 1080 video card (new card

So first it was running for 2 days with the TX650 but then locked up, and rebooted, a few time, so I traded PSI's to the AX850, The system ran at 300 watts under full CPU and GPU load. So today, can can't get it to get past post. It has a message that "the system has failed to boot many times, so press "del" to reset bios, otherwise booting in "10,9,8, etc. The last time I tried to boot it locked up at 7. And the CPU temps never went overt 50c.

Ideas ?

 

[Polar2002]

CMOS battery low, memory stick(s) bad,

 

[Markfw]

I tried 2 different sets of memory sticks, and my last update was to force memory to run@1600 (below spec) That boot got me into windows and worked for a couple of minutes, then hard locked again.

CMOS battery low ?

 

[Polar2002]

I had two new builds with old motherboards that gave me problems. I changed everything and nothing worked until I finally changed the button battery in both. The battery measured 2.3v, new at 3.3v.

 

[Burpo]

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...latinum-ddr3-1600-random-hard-freeze.2037220/

 

[Markfw]

Burpo, great find. Except problem 1, I have bios 2.9, and thats WAY newer than his, he ise talking about 1.2 and 1.3. But I think I will try the other things he mentioned.

 

[Burpo]

I was just pointing out (in the link), that board's settings are a bit touchy.. Good luck Mark!

 

[Markfw]

no luck. Maybe just go 6700k and motherboard and new ddr4

 

[laamanaator]

Check the uncore frequency. On Nehalem/Bloomfield uncore must be at least 2x the speed of RAM, so at 1600MHz RAM speed uncore must be minimum of 3200MHz.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Last X58 system I was running had to run ram at 1333 or it would not post. Maybe try a pair of ddr3 1333 and see if that works??

 

[Markfw]

So, I set the bios to 1333 on memory, and something like 3400 on uncore, and again locked in 10 seconds after boot. Unless I get any real genius suggestions that a miracle happens, I will take my other socket 1333 Xeon system down, remove the AMD 290, and put the GTX 1080 in. I was trying to have one more complete system, but time to give up on this one ??

 

[VirtualLarry]

You've tried another boot drive, with a fresh (temp, no need to activate) install? Is this in Linux or Windows?

 

[Markfw]

Its a brand new from scratch Win 7 pro 64 bit install on a brand new SSD

 

[Ketchup]

Have you tried loading with BIOS defaults?

 

[Doom2pro]

I have had systems that are doing this with multiple swaps of hardware not resolving it and the problem turn out to be one of two things... One of the machines problems turned out to be a buggy Avast build needing an update and the most recent Windows 7 problem turned out to be a new SSD having issues with certain Windows power management and where the fix was a registry tweak to disable those features (link power management)...

The SSD problem was random hard locks, where the screen would just freeze, no BSOD, no error logs, nothing...

Here is the registry patch that fixed my SSD hard locks under windows:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStorV\Parameters\Port0]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStorV\Parameters\Port1]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStorV\Parameters\Port2]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStorV\Parameters\Port3]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStorV\Parameters\Port4]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStorV\Parameters\Port5]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port0]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port1]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port2]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port3]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port4]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\iaStor\Parameters\Port5]
"LPM"=dword:00000000
"LPMDSTATE"=dword:00000000
"DIPM"=dword:00000000

 

[Markfw]

doom2pro, that sounds promising, but there are no directories under that directory structure under parameters, and no iastor directory either, just iastoraV.

How do I create those "directories ? I only get the "string value", binary value" etc choices under "new"

 

[DAPUNISHER]

So, I set the bios to 1333 on memory, and something like 3400 on uncore, and again locked in 10 seconds after boot. Unless I get any real genius suggestions that a miracle happens, I will take my other socket 1333 Xeon system down, remove the AMD 290, and put the GTX 1080 in. I was trying to have one more complete system, but time to give up on this one ??

Something to try before giving up on it, is to just swap cards between systems. Some X58 and X68 mobo users experienced compatibility issues with some GTX 900 series cards. It is possible some of/all of the AIB 10 series firmware is incompatible. If the 290 works, you have your culprit. If not, it is only a couple minutes to eliminate it. Good luck, and here is to hoping it works so you can add another system to the DC farm.

 

[Doom2pro]

doom2pro, that sounds promising, but there are no directories under that directory structure under parameters, and no iastor directory either, just iastoraV.

How do I create those "directories ? I only get the "string value", binary value" etc choices under "new"

I didn't have them either, I had to create them (by saving that code to a .reg file, right clicking it and clicking MERGE).

 

[Markfw]

OK, I did an export of the registry, then added these lines to the file, saved as "_new", closed reopened and imported the file, and now they are there. Lets hope for the best. BTW, under safe mode with networking support it worked for at least 20 minutes. promising.

 

[Markfw]

crap, first boot locked up in 2 seconds or less. Going to try the other system.

 

[Doom2pro]

OK, I did an export of the registry, then added these lines to the file, saved as "_new", closed reopened and imported the file, and now they are there. Lets hope for the best. BTW, under safe mode with networking support it worked for at least 20 minutes. promising.

Good luck, those random lockup problems are a real pain to solve, often times you try many different fixes and get fooled into thinking they work, but then get another random lockup... Frustrating.

 

[Doom2pro]

crap, first boot locked up in 2 seconds or less. Going to try the other system.

Also, is the SSD in AHCI or IDE mode? Have you tried swapping it in BIOS (and then doing the registry hack to notify windows --> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/922976 )?

 

[Markfw]

Loading on a Dell T3500 workstation with a Xeon 5570. Uninstalling the AMD 290 drivers now. Will reply back with status later.

And thanks for all the support.

 

[Markfw]

Running at 600k ppd. Less than I expected for a 1080. Same as my 980TI cards that are now $400 each, not $679 for this one at 1994 mhz per XOC.

BUT it draws 340 watts for the system like a 980, but at a higher PPD. This exact system was drawing 400 watts for my 290@300k ppd.

 

[flexy]

Take out all PCI/PCIE cards you don't need, if you have any and re-seat them. Blowing dust/air out the case and slots can also not hurt.
I had darn problems like this with aborted/unsuccessful boots from a not properly seated sound card or graphics cards. Can easily happen with cats knocking on towers all the time. In the same "weird category" would be unable to boot since cats chewed an USB cable, this triggering an USB overvoltage alert in BIOS and also unable to boot. Sometimes it can be the weirdest stuff.

Typical scenario: You spend X hours trying to find the problem, re-installing windows, checking this and that.....but re-seating a card in the PCIE slot was all that was needed.