Computer Issues

[Ketchup]

I would get a low cost AMD card, since it will use the same software drivers you already have.

R7-250
R7-250X
R7-360

According to Gigabyte, the R7 360 requires a 500 watt power supply and a 6-pin power supply connector.

I know that an AMD card would be much easier software-wise, but the lower power requirements of the current Nvidia cards (the 750 only requires 400 watts, and no 6-pin connector which the OP's system may not have) would be a better choice without requiring additional hardware modifications.

And while the 250 may meet the power limitations (the 250x also requires the additional power connection), it's so much slower than the 750, I don't even know why it is being mentioned, since they are going for about the same price.

 

[LTC8K6]

Yes, if she can do the AMD driver uninstall, a GTX750 is the best bet overall, or a 750ti if the budget allows.

 

[RDSmacker]

Thanks so much for the help. I also have another question. I have a fan in my room that directly points to the tower (I flipped my tower so the fan can hit the back of it). And it still feels hot for some reason. Any reason why this might happen?


http://i60.tinypic.com/2h7qxih.png Here's a picture of it not the best picture but yea the fan in the back of my tower feels a bit hot.

 

[Ketchup]

Thanks so much for the help. I also have another question. I have a fan in my room that directly points to the tower (I flipped my tower so the fan can hit the back of it). And it still feels hot for some reason. Any reason why this might happen?

AMD. They are hot. A couple things:

1. 99% of all computers pull cool air in the front, blow hot air out the back. So if you are blowing air into the back, you may actually be making it hotter (hot air would just sit inside the machine).
2. A video card you would be looking at is designed to blow air in the same direction as the rest of the system (air in the front, out the back). The CPU may actually run a little cooler (it is now doing less work) but the system itself will probably run about the same.

Just get the fan out of there, or in the move it to the front.

Edit: saw your pic. Is there an opening in the back of the cabinet? if so, just turn the computer around.

Also, the top of the back is the power supply. There are hot parts inside, and warm air coming from there is normal.

 

[RDSmacker]

AMD. They are hot. A couple things:

1. 99% of all computers pull cool air in the front, blow hot air out the back. So if you are blowing air into the back, you may actually be making it hotter (hot air would just sit inside the machine).
2. A video card you would be looking at is designed to blow air in the same direction as the rest of the system (air in the front, out the back). The CPU may actually run a little cooler (it is now doing less work) but the system itself will probably run about the same.

Just get the fan out of there, or in the move it to the front.

Edit: saw your pic. Is there an opening in the back of the cabinet? if so, just turn the computer around.

Also, the top of the back is the power supply. There are hot parts inside, and warm air coming from there is normal.

Yea as you can see in the picture I flipped my tower so that the fan could hit it. Yea it's warm but not too warm thanks for clarifying that it is normal for it to do that.


So your solution is to get that video card you linked and replace the old one with it?

 

[Ketchup]

In your picture, the fan is blowing into the back, where the computer is trying to exhaust hot air. This is backwards of what you want. As I asked you before, is there any gap between the wall and the "cabinet" (I honestly can't tell what that is)? If so, reverse the computer. If not, reverse the computer, but place it on the outside of the cabinet. With the way you have it set up now, the computer is probably just intaking some of the hot air coming out of the exhaust. Not good for an AMD system, and especially not good if you add a video card.

I would recommend the GTX 750 video card if you want to play the games you mentioned (as well as future games).

 

[LTC8K6]

In your picture, the fan is blowing into the back, where the computer is trying to exhaust hot air. This is backwards of what you want. As I asked you before, is there any gap between the wall and the "cabinet" (I honestly can't tell what that is)? If so, reverse the computer. If not, reverse the computer, but place it on the outside of the cabinet. With the way you have it set up now, the computer is probably just intaking some of the hot air coming out of the exhaust. Not good for an AMD system, and especially not good if you add a video card.

I would recommend the GTX 570 video card if you want to play the games you mentioned (as well as future games).

gtx750 :biggrin:

 

[Ketchup]

gtx750 :biggrin:

Yep, lol

 

[RDSmacker]

So if I get the Gtx750 I would have to open the inside of my tower take the old video card out and put that one in?

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

So if I get the Gtx750 I would have to open the inside of my tower take the old video card out and put that one in?

I don't think there is an old one to remove. As it is built in to your computer's cpu processing unit. The built in one is not usually very powerful. Which explains your current problems, with under performing games (graphics).

But yes, you would have to open the computer case. This is usually very easy, and just involves unscrewing 2 or 4 small cross-head screw threaded screws, on the back of the PC. They are usually very obvious. (Leave the power supply screws alone, these are in a small square, around the outline of a rear fan).

Slot the new graphics card, into the right slot (hopefully the card will come with instructions). There is a tiny screw, on the computer case, near the slot. Which you usually need to remove. Then put the screw back in, after fitting the graphics card.

Plug in any power leads (required) into the graphics card.

You will need to move the monitor lead, onto the graphics card, connector.

Switch on and Install drivers. (Unless advised differently).

 

[Ketchup]

SOFTengCOMPelec got a lot of the basics. Unplug the power cord and remove the two screws in the back to open the side of the case. Your motherboard will look something like this:

The blue slot labeled PCI-Express is what your card will plug into. Now, the card will need to be accessible from the rear of the case. Yours will have removable metal covering these. Here is a sample pic:

You may want to do a test fit to see which plate the card lines up with. A screwdriver will work to remove this plate. They take a little back and forth, but are not permanent. Just be careful.

Since there is no extra power, once you get the card in, plug your video cable into the card, plug in your power cord, and turn the computer on (before placing the side back on). Make sure the fan on the video card spins up, and see if there is anything on the screen.

If you don't see anything on the screen, let us know, and we will help you work around that. Once you get into Windows, use the CD that came with it to install your drivers.

And you will be good to go!

 

[RDSmacker]

So having two video cards in there won't mess it up anyway and the computer will go by the new video card? Also, that link of the video card you gave me says its sold out.

 

[Ketchup]

So having two video cards in there won't mess it up anyway and the computer will go by the new video card? Also, that link of the video card you gave me says its sold out.

Usually when you put in a dedicated card, the integrated graphics will give control. Every once in a long while it doesn't want to, and a CMOS reset is necessary, but that is one of those situations I mentioned that we can take care of after the fact.

It will probably be back in stock tomorrow, but anything from this list will be good (they are just different brands):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...14&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=30

 

[RDSmacker]

Usually when you put in a dedicated card, the integrated graphics will give control. Every once in a long while it doesn't want to, and a CMOS reset is necessary, but that is one of those situations I mentioned that we can take care of after the fact.

It will probably be back in stock tomorrow, but anything from this list will be good (they are just different brands):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%208000%20600487564%204814&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=30

Sorry was on vacation for a couple of weeks can you pick one for me? Don't really know which one would fit best. Also, i have another question. For some reason I'm getting high ping spikes in games could that be because of my video card? Since my connection seems fine when it happens.

 

[Ketchup]

High ping spikes have nothing to do with your video card, all to do with your network card, router, modem, isp, and the receiving end. Quick way to tell would be an internet speed test. If you are getting the speed your household is paying for, the problem is not on your end.

As for which card, there is an MSI in that list that is a great deal after MIR.

 

[Steltek]

Also, i have another question. For some reason I'm getting high ping spikes in games could that be because of my video card? Since my connection seems fine when it happens.

Are you using the built-in wireless card in the desktop to connect to the Internet, or are you connecting a cable from the modem (or router) to the Ethernet port on the back of the computer?

If you are using the wireless card to connect, that might explain the high ping spikes. In that instance, you can connect an Ethernet patch cable directly from the modem (or router) to your computer. Wired connections tend to be faster than wireless connections due to the overhead required to maintain the wireless connection.

 

[Steltek]

High ping spikes have nothing to do with your video card, all to do with your network card, router, modem, isp, and the receiving end. Quick way to tell would be an internet speed test. If you are getting the speed your household is paying for, the problem is not on your end.

As for which card, there is an MSI in that list that is a great deal after MIR.

OP's desktop only has a 350 watt power supply of unknown origin. I wonder if it will even support a gtx750 safely?

 

[LTC8K6]

Yes, a GTX750 should run fine with a 350W power supply.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Well, first unless you are running at the lowest settings, turn down the graphics to the lowest setting, see if the framerate improves. Or even turn down the resolution to something like 1280 x 768.

Most likely that you need a better gpu, but I would think the integrated graphics should run LOL at lowest settings. It is possible that your cpu or internet is holding you back as well, although most likely it is the lack of a graphics card.

As Ketchup said, I would suggest something like the nVidia GTX750 or 750Ti, as they dont use much power and dont require an auxiliary power connector, which an OEM system might not have.

 

[RDSmacker]

For the ping issue. Me and my brother run on wifi and his ping doesn't jump up and down like mine and his room and his room is right next to mine. That's why I was wondering if it had something to do with my graphics cards.

 

[Ketchup]

Swap wifi cards and see what happens. Is he closer to the router?