CompUSA to stop carrying HP's with AMD Processors

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Brandino

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this is so sad.. the ignorance of the consumer makes me quite angry. I shouldn't be mad about this, but its very frustrating to know that most people buy off of mHZ alone, and not actual speed.

I know a friend who just bought a pentium 4 1.5 gigahertz machine for 3k, and I told him how it was a mistake. He's using it for office and multimedia stuff, so I pulled up a benchmark of even a p3 1 ghz beating out the p4 1.5 in office applications, and the thunderbird 1.2 ghz killing them all. He said "Well mine's state of the art, and I was the first one in this town to buy one. That's how new it is"

AGHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Amd, I feel for you.
 
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Gunbuster

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It's comps policy to push the p4 right now, they have been trying not to have any higher end athlons on hand for some time.


At the same time Bestbuy is selling a ton of athlon systems
 
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Dennis Travis

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Wingznut, I think what the one person was saying is people that buy Compaq or HP at CompUSA are not very smart when it comes to computers. It does not make any difference if it has an AMD or Intel, all the HOME Compaqs I have used can't hold a candle to a good homebuilt or storebuilt system with good parts. I am told by some that HP's are not much better. I personally don't care what HP or even Compaq uses or does not use in their systems. I will always build my own with the parts I know are the best.

Also from my few trips to CompUSA most of the people I see buying Compaq's or HP's really don't know what they are getting. A lot of un educated people buy the system with the Higher #'s no matter what anyone says.
 
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Innoka

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Pentium 4, come back when you are at 2.5GHz for another try!
People should think of megahertz like engine revs. Your puny little Honda bike might do more revs than a classic car with a 4 litre engine, but what's giving more power?
 
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"Also from my few trips to CompUSA most of the people I see buying Compaq's or HP's really don't know what they are getting."

Well, I would actually say that most people shopping at CompUSA, period... Don't really know what they are getting.

It drives me crazy when I see somebody walking around with a crappy piece of hardware (say, a S3Virge "accellerator"). You just know, that they think they are getting something good. I would love to just sit them down and have a chat.

Same goes with Fry's, Best Buy... Most of those type of stores, really.
 
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vrooooOOOOOOM!!!
BEER
TV
CHICKS
vroooooOOOOOOOOM!!!!!
WRESTLING

and bragging rights and so on.. P4's are good and all.. but price/performance sucks on em..
there are types of ppl who don't care what's actually the smart buy.. they just want to tell their peers that they have this and that.. it's called.. egomania
I have a P4, look at me!!!
(unless you work for intel and got a free one ;) )
Really though, there will be the day that they will shine.. for me though.. no thanks.. I like AMD and I ain't a millionaire either.. and yes.. there is a general ideology towards the PENTIUM namebrand.. "Featuring the new P4 processor, ding dong ding"
Passive consumers that we are, we fall for it everytime.. what the hell does three blue guys have to do with anything anyways?
 
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<< Exactly, ignorant not stupid. >>



Yes, but willful ignorance is stupidity.
 
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Lol, man, so much Intel bashing and compUSA bashing. What is it that makes some of you so against Intel? No matter what they do you'll somehow find a way to make it look like Intel is doing the work of the anti-christ. AMD and Intel are more the same then a lot of you like to admit. Does AMD pay you guys to whine about everything intel does? How much do they pay? Can I get some of that money?
I hate to break it to some of you, but not everyone is a super-duper cool elite computer cyber space overclocking ha><0r like you. Most people get their computers from stores like compusa. And I have yet to see any set of benchmarks that demonstrates one processor as superior over others in every test. I probobly shouldn't even mention that because now some people might whine about that too. Some of you mention ignorance of the average consumer. What's really ignorant is you thinking everyone hsa the same computer needs as you do and thus comes to the same conclusion as to which processor is better. Someone also mentioned that their friend said &quot;Well mine's state of the art, and I was the first one in this town to buy one. That's how new it is.&quot; And? What's wrong with what he said. If some people didn't do that, a lot of good products would fall flat on their face. The P4 has a lot to offer and even more in the future. No one insulted your manhood or anything so why get all up in arms about it and start spewing out about how so and so benchmarks showed AMD to be faster. I hope you read this and think about it before you start spewing out more crap as if I just insulted your entire family and then kicked your dog.
 
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erub - he was commenting on intel's marketing scheme and name recognition, not their products. And, IE does not beat netscape (although I do prefer it to netscape) Netscape is loads faster.
 
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<< Well, I would actually say that most people shopping at CompUSA, period... Don't really know what they are getting.

It drives me crazy when I see somebody walking around with a crappy piece of hardware (say, a S3Virge &quot;accellerator&quot;). You just know, that they think they are getting something good. I would love to just sit them down and have a chat.

Same goes with Fry's, Best Buy... Most of those type of stores, really.

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Wingznut, Very true. And I have found that most of the salespeople at Frys are just as bad as the people buying the stuff! :D




 
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But think about it... It's not just PC stuff.

I see people shopping for home theatre equipment at Target, people buying auto accessories from Kmart, people purchasing furniture from...

Well, you get the gist. ;)
 
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People that shop at Compusa (other than to get canned air and cheap CDRs) are not the most knowledgeable about computers. They are expecting competant, intelligent, help but unfortunately get stuck with Compusa employees instead.

People who buy HPs aren't very informed about computers. HP, or pretty much any prebuilt computer with the exception of maybe Dell is by nature worthless. Lets face it, what are you going to do with a 1.5ghz P4 when you only have 64mb RDRam and a TNT2. They could get a P3 600 and you won't even see a difference. Brands like Dell or Micron are much better IMO, at least their tech support is worth the extra cost from not building your own machine.

People who are buying a P4 are not looking for value. If you have the money to buy a P4 machine then you obviously aren't a cost conscious person. You are paying more for RDRam, more for the processor, more for the mobo, its a lot more money. One of the best things about the Tbird is that its fast and cheap. They are ignorant enough to buy from Compusa, they are ignorant enough to buy an HP, so they are ignorant enough to be overcharged.

The P4 is the processor of the ignorant and rich. How many people do you hear of building their own P4 systems compared to those that build Tbird systems. That's because people who know enough to build their own system know enough to buy the better processor. The people who go to Compusa don't. Its only logical that they don't even offer the Tbird in a place where brand names and MHZ are the only thing the consumers consider when buying a processor.
 
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Slappy5

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If I'm not mistaken, Intel owns part of CompUSA.. or is that microsoft, or both? Anyone here work in the CUSA Dallas Call center?
 
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steelthorn

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It's about time they quit selling amds! They burn easy, crack easy etc. I wouldn't have one in my house even if it were for free.
 
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Slappy5, Slim a Mexican tycoon owns the majority of CompUSA, Prodigy and some other stuff I think. I know that Slim is currently working with Microsoft on something, so is that the connection you are looking for?

Anyway, doesn't really matter, CompUSA is good for buying cheap merchandise like CD-R's and the like. Ignant's buy the P4, HP and Compaqs because of brand name recognition, and not because they are educated consumers. If they were really educated consumers, they wouldn't be buying systems and processors at CompUSA in the first place. This won't really affect us educated consumers much...
 
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steelthorn

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I'm getting so sick and tired of people saying the athlon is faster than the p4. It is only in business apps. BUt intel p4 kicks ass in multimedia, 3d etc.. You are all gamers, you should know this by now. Quit putting intel down just so you can build amd up. It's not fair.
 
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cocokrisp

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They burn and crack easy?? Hmmm... Nope. If you don't know what you are doing then yes you can break a T-bird or Duron pretty easily but the experienced and careful PC builder has no problem putting a hsf on it without cracking it. PIIIs are newbie-proof :).
 
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Slappy5

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Umm... and the P4 is an engineering fiasco hindered by an unexpectedly uncompetitive roadmap. Intel is falling over themselves to reclaim the MHZ crown from AMD, but in turn permaturrely launched the P4 with an architecture that will be retired within 8 months. AMD has produced a chip that outperforms anything Intel has clock for clock and yet it is consistently more inexpensive. Put an active HS on the AMD proc, and remember that micorprocessors are typically not designed with profounddurability in mind. I commend the hell out of AMD for what they have done for their company, and the industry itself, in the past two years.

John

typo's :D
 
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