Compusa 12/10/32 Iomega cdrw = Sanyo CDR-BP1300P **Update# 2** **Confirmed** how to tell if it's a plextor without opening the box!!!! =)

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superhuang

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busmaster11: AFAIK the green light goes on when burnproof kicks in-- although even at 12x if you're not doing that much in the background it shouldn't be on that often (if at all)...
 

busmaster11

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That makes sense. Then can someone tell me why my burnproof kicks in every two seconds - literally?!?! uggh!
 

beatinitup

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busmasta are you multi tasking when you are burning at 12x?
are you running lots of programs in the background?
how many processes are you going through?
 

Engineer

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For anyone wondering....a co-worker just received his drive....it's the rebadged Plextor (already upgraded via me! :p) with a manufacture date of 01/2001! :)
 

busmaster11

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beatinitup, I'm not multitasking. I could be, but I don't think it matters. My CD-rom drives show up in the POST as PIO-4, though my hdds show up UDMA. The chipset's a VIA KX133. I think it has something to do with all that. Not a big deal... It's fine in ME. Thanks.
 

Nutzo

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My IOMEGA/Plextor is great. On my 4x scsi CDR drive I had, I couldn't do anything else or I would sometimes make a coaster. With the IOMEGA drive I have yet to make a coaster even though I'm burning as 12x on IDE, and surfing the net at the same time.
 

office boy

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<<has anyone managed to flash the iomega drive with two lights to a plextor??? >>

You can't the drive with two lights is a SANYO! If it has one light it's a Plex.

And busmaster11, Have you jumpered the reserved pins on the back of the drive? that will enable UDMA support for the drive. (search in General Hardware for the specifics)
 

Aslan

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The sale at CompUsa last month for $99 was for a 12X8X32 not a 10, and it is a Sanyo w/2 lights.
 

kendogg

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yes i 3rd that.... it was 12x10x32x

I also had some troubles upgrading 1.07. If anyone does have trouble you probably have to update your aspi layer to the latest version. After installation of the aspi it let me update to 1.07 with no problem. I have successfuly done the name change under windows Me also. btw great drive. I have it connected to an ultra 66 promise card and I was playing q2 while burning. Pretty amazing.
 

Pers

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i was just wondering, where can i go to learn to flash the firmware??? i am really new at this, please help!!! :eek:
 

Pers

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i was just wondering, where can i go to learn to flash the firmware??? i am really new at this, please help!!! :eek:

Sorry for some reason my comp posted the same message twice...
 

yodayoda

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dude, you are wrong. plextor does not make this drive. the BURN-proof technology is a propietary technology owned wholy by sanyo. if any company wants to make a BURN-proof, they either have to buy OEM sanyo drives or pay for a license for the BURN-proof technology. in this case, TDK, IOMEGA, and plextors 12x10x32 all have the extact same specifications as the Sanyo 12x10x32. this is not a coincidence--they are all sanyo OEM drives. perhaps plextor in the future will acquire the fabrication techniques from sanyo to produce their own BURN-proof drives, but for the time being, the 12x10x32s are all original sanyos with different firmware and faceplates.
 

Dean_Jen

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honestly, I really see no need of worrying...

The burn-proof technology is owned by Sanyo. All those CDRW drives which have this(Iomega, Plextor, TDK, Teac, or others) have the same laser-head made by Sanyo and &quot;usually&quot; the same internal design(the outside box can always be different, or even painted in other color if any manu. wants :p).

This is the same for AOpen and Ricoh. If you check the latest AOpen 12/10/32 CDRW, you can find that the specification(access time, buffer size, and other specifications) is very similar to the 12/10/32 CDRW by Ricoh, which implants the Just-Link technology as well. Of course, AOpen released a 12/10/32 model with 4mb buffer &quot;before&quot; the version with just-link, which I think only has 2mb buffer as well.

But of course...brand name is brand name... So don't feel bad if you spend extra for Plextor, and don't be afraid of Sanyo's own CDRW just because it ain't as popular... Really no need to.

Finally, lots of people in Taiwan even buy Lite-on 12/8/32(or slower model...?) and overclock(yes, that's the term) to 12/10/32. This is a 4mb-buffer mode as well... Some have done that on Teac CDRW, too... Just my 2-cent.:p
 

7lords

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busmaster11 wrote:

beatinitup, I'm not multitasking. I could be, but I don't think it matters. My CD-rom drives show up in the POST as
PIO-4, though my hdds show up UDMA. The chipset's a VIA KX133. I think it has something to do with all that. Not
a big deal... It's fine in ME. Thanks.



Double check in Windows2000 (I assume that's your other OS) that DMA is selected in the device manager for the ide that you have the drive connected to. I had the same problem at first - worked fine in ME but was a problem in 2000. I went back and checked my secondary IDE settings and all settings were set to PIO.

 

MisterE

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Busmaster,

That may be a KX133 thing (the drives showing up as PIO mode). I briefly had a Tyan S2380 with KX133 chipset and my DVD and Plextor 8x4x32 CD-RW showed as PIO at boot. Rumour has it that Windows switches these drives to DMA mode once it loads up, but I'm not sure how true this is.

I don't have a KX133 motherboard anymore, but I just got my Iomega burner in today (got the rebadged Sanyo, dangit), so I get to see how burn-proof works with my Gigabyte GA-7IXE. It has the AMD-750 chipset.
 

Ian@CDRlabs

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For most CDROMs and CD-RW's there really isn't much difference if you're running at PIO 4 or UDMA 33. The only thing I've noticed is the amount of CPU used. Theoretically there is a difference in bandwidth available but a CD drive doesn't get that high.. a DVD-ROM is another story but I won't get into that.

The DMA check in windows is different that the BIOS saying its a UDMA drive. It's just signifying its using Direct Memory Addressing.
 

RoboticCastro

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yodayoda: You are wrong. Plextor does license BURN-Proof technology and manufacture their own drives. A list of companies which license BURN-Proof technology is available at cdrinfo.com. The two versions of the Iomega drive look physically different. If Sanyo manufactured both versions would it make sense for them to change the design of the drive all of a sudden? It's not just the faceplate that's different. The master/slave pins in the back are different. There are 6 pins on the Plextor and 10 on the Sanyo.

Anyway, don't worry if you got the Sanyo drive instead of the Plextor. The drive works beautifully. The only drawback seems to be the lack of firmware updates for the BP1300P.
 

TuOni

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Friken sanyo here. I can't believe I waited that long for a sanyo...crap..friken pink bag
 

extro

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yodayoda: &quot;dude, you are wrong. plextor does not make this drive. the BURN-proof technology is a propietary technology owned wholy by sanyo. if any company wants to make a BURN-proof, they either have to buy OEM sanyo drives or pay for a license for the BURN-proof technology. in this case, TDK, IOMEGA, and plextors 12x10x32 all have the extact same specifications as the Sanyo 12x10x32. this is not a coincidence--they are all sanyo OEM drives&quot;


yodayoda,

Can you cite a source that proves that Sanyo is the OEM manufacturer of the Plextor PX-W1210A or are you just repeating message board heresay? Sanyo licenses BurnProof and sells supporting semiconductors to other manufacturers, but they don't make every drive that uses BurnProof. Simply because drives have similar specs does not mean they come from the same factory or perform equally.

The Sanyo BP1300P is a fine drive, but it is not the same drive as the Plextor PX-W1210A or the TDK CDRW121032. It doesn't benchmark the same as those drives and it doesn't support DAO RAW like those drives, so how can it have &quot;the exact same specifications&quot;?