Composite Baseball bats...WOW

BAMAVOO

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I never thought they were better than aluminum, but man was I wrong. I picked up a composite baseball bat for my son and a composite softball bat for my daughter over the weekend. Took them to the ball field and let them hit about 50 pitches each. 50 pitches is the minimum break-in period for these bats that will only get better as they are hit more. I must say that they both were hitting the ball with more velocity than before with their all aluminum bats. I watched as balls that were rolling to the fence before are now bouncing off the fence and passing my head with more speed. I can't wait for the temperature to go up as this also gives a boost in performance to the bat.

I rate them A+

 

Insomniator

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I don't understand how they could be allowed if aluminum bats have already been getting flak/being banned for years.

Anyway, just get your kids some nice wood bats so they can learn what its like to play real baseball.
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't understand how they could be allowed if aluminum bats have already been getting flak/being banned for years.

Anyway, just get your kids some HGH so they can learn what its like to play real baseball.

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RapidSnail

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Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't understand how they could be allowed if aluminum bats have already been getting flak/being banned for years.

Anyway, just get your kids some nice wood bats so they can learn what its like to play real baseball.

Real baseball players bat with their forearms! :shocked:
 

destrekor

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bah.

As a big baseball fan, nothing more than aluminum should be used at any age, and anything above high school should be strictly wood.

High performance bats pose a great risk to players on the field in the event of a line drive.
 

SphinxnihpS

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I thought there was a MOI limit for bats in kiddie leagues, due to like 3 serious injuries and a death...
 

Insomniator

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I don't really see why wood can't always be used, it doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah I used metal all the way through college because honestly, you can't compete with wood against metal unless you are headed for the majors. But come on, how many injuries have been suffered in the majors from splintering wood bats? Now lets take little kids to middle schoolers... you think they swing the bat hard enough to cause a risk of splintering?

Wood sounds good, smells good, feels good.

 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't really see why wood can't always be used, it doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah I used metal all the way through college because honestly, you can't compete with wood against metal unless you are headed for the majors. But come on, how many injuries have been suffered in the majors from splintering wood bats? Now lets take little kids to middle schoolers... you think they swing the bat hard enough to cause a risk of splintering?

Wood sounds good, smells good, feels good.

The Ash wood used in BB bats is getting to be a rarity. Even Louisville Slugger is using Maple for bats used in MLB games, and guess what, it's not working so well. If they keep using it we will see someone getting speared by a broken bat in the next couple of seasons.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't really see why wood can't always be used, it doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah I used metal all the way through college because honestly, you can't compete with wood against metal unless you are headed for the majors. But come on, how many injuries have been suffered in the majors from splintering wood bats? Now lets take little kids to middle schoolers... you think they swing the bat hard enough to cause a risk of splintering?

Wood sounds good, smells good, feels good.

The Ash wood used in BB bats is getting to be a rarity. Even Louisville Slugger is using Maple for bats used in MLB games, and guess what, it's not working so well. If they keep using it we will see someone getting speared by a broken bat in the next couple of seasons.

They use Ash wood?

Hmm... makes sense its a rarity - emerald ash borer is at like epidemic levels in some regions, and that wood has to be destroyed I think, and probably can't be used for bats.
 

dougp

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Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't understand how they could be allowed if aluminum bats have already been getting flak/being banned for years.

Anyway, just get your kids some HGH so they can learn what its like to play real baseball.

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HGH is used for recovery, not actual performance enhancing.
 

oogabooga

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Originally posted by: dougp
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't understand how they could be allowed if aluminum bats have already been getting flak/being banned for years.

Anyway, just get your kids some HGH so they can learn what its like to play real baseball.

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HGH is used for recovery, not actual performance enhancing.

Maybe he thought the op's kid was going to be playing 180 games over 200 days this summer too?
 

Baked

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Stop cheating. I find it funny they let college baseball use aluminum bats, but not in the pros. Have you seen the college players lately? They're bigger than the MLB players!
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: dougp
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't understand how they could be allowed if aluminum bats have already been getting flak/being banned for years.

Anyway, just get your kids some HGH so they can learn what its like to play real baseball.

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HGH is used for recovery, not actual performance enhancing.

essentially that is what all hormone treatments and steroid use is for: recovery.
But is equally considered performance enhancing, unless you are merely stating performance enhancing as being a drug that gives you more energy while on the drug.
HGH and steroids, while vastly different, do one thing similar: boost muscle recovery so that after breaking down muscle, you build up more. I can't remember what type of muscle the different steroids and HGH end up targeting over the long run, but I do know different methods result in different type of muscle. But the end result is the same: by using such things as steroids and HGH, over the long run you have enhanced performance through either better endurance or more strength/power.

but if you want to group things like that - about the only true performance enhancer would be something like illicit drugs, or ephedra/ephedrine.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Baked
Stop cheating. I find it funny they let college baseball use aluminum bats, but not in the pros. Have you seen the college players lately? They're bigger than the MLB players!

I think eventually that's going to change as time marches on. I cannot imagine aluminum will always be allowed in college. And like you, I'm shocked they are still in use at that level.
 

cpacini

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Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't really see why wood can't always be used, it doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah I used metal all the way through college because honestly, you can't compete with wood against metal unless you are headed for the majors. But come on, how many injuries have been suffered in the majors from splintering wood bats? Now lets take little kids to middle schoolers... you think they swing the bat hard enough to cause a risk of splintering?

Wood sounds good, smells good, feels good.

Aluminum bats became popular in youth/little league/high school because they last a lot longer.
 

waggy

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great. at least until you go to play and find out those bats are banned (they are around here) and you find you just wasted lots of money on something they can't use.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't understand how they could be allowed if aluminum bats have already been getting flak/being banned for years.

Anyway, just get your kids some nice wood bats so they can learn what its like to play real baseball.

Real baseball players bat with their cock! :shocked:

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theknight571

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Originally posted by: cpacini
Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't really see why wood can't always be used, it doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah I used metal all the way through college because honestly, you can't compete with wood against metal unless you are headed for the majors. But come on, how many injuries have been suffered in the majors from splintering wood bats? Now lets take little kids to middle schoolers... you think they swing the bat hard enough to cause a risk of splintering?

Wood sounds good, smells good, feels good.

Aluminum bats became popular in youth/little league/high school because they last a lot longer.

This is what I've always heard.

That makes it cheaper over time since they purchase bats less often.

However, based on what I've seen with composite hockey sticks... I don't see how the composite bats will last at all.

I've seen 10 year olds break a composite hockey stick trying to take a slap shot... I can't imagine an 80+mph fastball not breaking a bat.
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: cpacini
Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't really see why wood can't always be used, it doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah I used metal all the way through college because honestly, you can't compete with wood against metal unless you are headed for the majors. But come on, how many injuries have been suffered in the majors from splintering wood bats? Now lets take little kids to middle schoolers... you think they swing the bat hard enough to cause a risk of splintering?

Wood sounds good, smells good, feels good.

Aluminum bats became popular in youth/little league/high school because they last a lot longer.

yep, exactly. They should be fine until high school, from that point on it should be wood.

My nephews league switched to wood and these kids went through 8-10 bats each that season. And a decent wood bat runs at least $40, so it was ridiculous.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: theknight571
Originally posted by: cpacini
Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't really see why wood can't always be used, it doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah I used metal all the way through college because honestly, you can't compete with wood against metal unless you are headed for the majors. But come on, how many injuries have been suffered in the majors from splintering wood bats? Now lets take little kids to middle schoolers... you think they swing the bat hard enough to cause a risk of splintering?

Wood sounds good, smells good, feels good.

Aluminum bats became popular in youth/little league/high school because they last a lot longer.

This is what I've always heard.

That makes it cheaper over time since they purchase bats less often.

However, based on what I've seen with composite hockey sticks... I don't see how the composite bats will last at all.

I've seen 10 year olds break a composite hockey stick trying to take a slap shot... I can't imagine an 80+mph fastball not breaking a bat.

Pretty sure with slapshot you are also hitting the ice a lot. That is probably what is snapping them as opposed to the puck.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Insomniator
I don't really see why wood can't always be used, it doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah I used metal all the way through college because honestly, you can't compete with wood against metal unless you are headed for the majors. But come on, how many injuries have been suffered in the majors from splintering wood bats? Now lets take little kids to middle schoolers... you think they swing the bat hard enough to cause a risk of splintering?

Wood sounds good, smells good, feels good.

The Ash wood used in BB bats is getting to be a rarity. Even Louisville Slugger is using Maple for bats used in MLB games, and guess what, it's not working so well. If they keep using it we will see someone getting speared by a broken bat in the next couple of seasons.

They use Ash wood?

Hmm... makes sense its a rarity - emerald ash borer is at like epidemic levels in some regions, and that wood has to be destroyed I think, and probably can't be used for bats.

Yes, Ash. It's strong yet flexible.

Bugs are indeed the reason it's getting hard to find ash.