Compared to a 9mm, how does a .380 acp compare?

[beer]

I fired a sig 239 9mm at the rental range the other day. It's the first handgun I've ever shot. I am considering a sig 232 .380 acp, but I haven't fired a 380 before. What's the difference in terms of stopping power? Both guns are *very* small

 

[AnyMal]

Well, in terms of stopping power neither is preferable though 9mm Para does pack more punch. If you want a good balance of stopping power of .45 and a high velocity of 9mm consider .40S&W Technically speaking .380 is a 9mm round. It's oficial designation in Germany is 9mm Kurtz (short)

 

[beer]

I want a concealed carry so .45 is a tad too big. I'll take small form factor over stopping power.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: beer
I want a concealed carry so .45 is a tad too big. I'll take small form factor over stopping power. I don't envision ever needing to use it, and if I do I'd not be looking to kill but merely disable.

how do you plan on doing that?

 

[DMT]

380 is 9mm short.

Personally - my neurosurgeon reccomends nothing smaller than 9mm and a projectile moving at least 1000 FPS.

Shot placement is far more important than choice of caliber.

 

[AnyMal]

Glock makes compact 45's that are convenient to carry. They also take standard hi-cap mazines from oother Glock pistols. For a slim profile 45 carry gun look for Para Ordnance

Para
Glock

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: beer
I want a concealed carry so .45 is a tad too big. I'll take small form factor over stopping power. I don't envision ever needing to use it, and if I do I'd not be looking to kill but merely disable.

Then don't carry a gun. :roll:

As I'm sure many CCWers will echo momentarily - or will beat me to it - if you carry a gun, you should be prepared to shoot to kill.

- M4H

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: beer
I want a concealed carry so .45 is a tad too big. I'll take small form factor over stopping power. I don't envision ever needing to use it, and if I do I'd not be looking to kill but merely disable.

Then don't carry a gun. :roll:

As I'm sure many CCWers will echo momentarily - or will beat me to it - if you carry a gun, you should be prepared to shoot to kill.

- M4H

I agree. If you want to disable, carry some good pepper spray.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: beer
I want a concealed carry so .45 is a tad too big. I'll take small form factor over stopping power. I don't envision ever needing to use it, and if I do I'd not be looking to kill but merely disable.

Then don't carry a gun. :roll:

As I'm sure many CCWers will echo momentarily - or will beat me to it - if you carry a gun, you should be prepared to shoot to kill.

- M4H

I agree. If you want to disable, carry some good pepper spray.

Let's see.. It's a windy or rainy day.. What do you do?

I will agree with M4H. If you're packing you better have the balls to pull the trigger.

 

[thecrecarc]

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[Howard]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: beer
I want a concealed carry so .45 is a tad too big. I'll take small form factor over stopping power. I don't envision ever needing to use it, and if I do I'd not be looking to kill but merely disable.

Then don't carry a gun. :roll:

As I'm sure many CCWers will echo momentarily - or will beat me to it - if you carry a gun, you should be prepared to shoot to kill.

- M4H

I agree. If you want to disable, carry some good pepper spray.

Let's see.. It's a windy or rainy day.. What do you do?

I will agree with M4H. If you're packing you better have the balls to pull the trigger.

You can get a pepper spray canister that fires in a stream.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: beer
I want a concealed carry so .45 is a tad too big. I'll take small form factor over stopping power. I don't envision ever needing to use it, and if I do I'd not be looking to kill but merely disable.

Then don't carry a gun. :roll:

As I'm sure many CCWers will echo momentarily - or will beat me to it - if you carry a gun, you should be prepared to shoot to kill.

- M4H

I agree. If you want to disable, carry some good pepper spray.

Let's see.. It's a windy or rainy day.. What do you do?

I will agree with M4H. If you're packing you better have the balls to pull the trigger.

You can get a pepper spray canister that fires in a stream.

If you intent on killing or hurting someone will some pepperspray can be enough to scare you away?

 

[edro]

All Sig pistols are great. My father has a P226 9mm. It is probably my second favorite pistol to shoot behind the Glock 17 9x19.

 

[meltdown75]

why you american so obsess with gun!

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: meltdown75
why you american so obsess with gun!

Because someone has to pick up Canada's slack

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: beer
I want a concealed carry so .45 is a tad too big. I'll take small form factor over stopping power. I don't envision ever needing to use it, and if I do I'd not be looking to kill but merely disable.

Then don't carry a gun. :roll:

As I'm sure many CCWers will echo momentarily - or will beat me to it - if you carry a gun, you should be prepared to shoot to kill.

- M4H

I agree. If you want to disable, carry some good pepper spray.

Let's see.. It's a windy or rainy day.. What do you do?

I will agree with M4H. If you're packing you better have the balls to pull the trigger.

You can get a pepper spray canister that fires in a stream.

If you intent on killing or hurting someone will some pepperspray can be enough to scare you away?

What, like getting hit with pepper spray is no big deal?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: beer
I want a concealed carry so .45 is a tad too big. I'll take small form factor over stopping power. I don't envision ever needing to use it, and if I do I'd not be looking to kill but merely disable.

Then don't carry a gun. :roll:

As I'm sure many CCWers will echo momentarily - or will beat me to it - if you carry a gun, you should be prepared to shoot to kill.

- M4H

I agree. If you want to disable, carry some good pepper spray.

Let's see.. It's a windy or rainy day.. What do you do?

I will agree with M4H. If you're packing you better have the balls to pull the trigger.

You can get a pepper spray canister that fires in a stream.

If you intent on killing or hurting someone will some pepperspray can be enough to scare you away?

What, like getting hit with pepper spray is no big deal?

Compared to being shot it's not.

And I wouldn't expect some crack-fueled junkie to slow down more than half a step with anything less than a hot lead injection, or possibly a direct hit with a taser.

- M4H

 

[Specop 007]

Nothing wrong with a .380 is the shooters good.
Hell, even a .22LR beats the hell out of a stick. Personally I'd do a 9mm but like I said, aint a damned thing wrong with the .380, it'll kill a man dead as surely as any other gun if you hit the vitals.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: beer
I want a concealed carry so .45 is a tad too big. I'll take small form factor over stopping power. I don't envision ever needing to use it, and if I do I'd not be looking to kill but merely disable.

Originally posted by: beer
If I see someone breaking into my car, it should be legal for me to shoot them. It should make no difference whether I am in imminent bodily threat, pieces of sh!t deserve to be removed from the gene pull and handgun rounds should be doing the trick.

Which is it? :roll:

- M4H

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: meltdown75
why you american so obsess with gun!

Because someone has to pick up Canada's slack

you knew that was in reference to another thread right?

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: meltdown75
why you american so obsess with gun!

Because someone has to pick up Canada's slack

HAHAHA!!
:beer:

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: meltdown75
why you american so obsess with gun!

Because someone has to pick up Canada's slack

you knew that was in reference to another thread right?

Going by the I'm gonna say yes. Oh, and I noticed you saying it in the shoot-to-kill for property theft thread. Which beer started. Even though he doesn't want a gun to shoot-to-kill.

:roll:

- M4H

 

[Specop 007]

You can kill people with guns?!?!

Damn, my day just got alot better.
Off to kill people!!

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
You can kill people with guns?!?!

Damn, my day just got alot better.
Off to kill people!!

Kill kill kill, all day long

<Thug> I'mma Merc some mofos fo shizzle to-dizzle mah wizzle. You down wit dat? Then strap a Gat!

- M4H

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: DMT
380 is 9mm short.

Personally - my neurosurgeon reccomends nothing smaller than 9mm and a projectile moving at least 1000 FPS.

Shot placement is far more important than choice of caliber.

WTF? lol