Compare these processors for me if you'd be so kind

[Kelemvor]

My wife has an older laptop that has an Intel Celeron M 430(1.73GHz).

I'm looking at this Best Buy Black Friday deal which is listed as an AMD Dual-Core E300 processor
http://bfads.net/Best-Buy-Black-Friday-Lenovo-156-2GB-DDR3-Memory-250GB-Hard-Drive-Laptop

I don't know anything about the AMD processor to know how it compares. I know it's an entry level laptop, but so was our current one 5-7 years ago. Can anyone tell me how the Celeron M would compare with the AMD E300?

Thanks.

 

[Cerb]

I would think about the same, but the E-300 will be cheaper in terms of upgrading RAM, has 64-bit support, and an OK GPU.

CPU-wise, it would be a side-grade or light downgrade. There are advantages to the E-300 (1.3GHz Zacate) being newer, but CPU performance is not one of them.

 

[Kelemvor]

So even though the old laptop is at least 5 years old, this processor won't buy me much of an improvement? Then I guess I'll pass. heh.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Yeah, my Laptop with a Sempron 3200+ from 2005 is probably about equivalent in CPU power to one of these new AMD laptop/netbooks with a C-50.

Makes me wonder if there is any true progress in the budget space.

 

[DominionSeraph]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/328?vs=73

Makes me wonder if there is any true progress in the budget space.

Price and battery life.

 

[toyota]

if passmark is anything to go by, that old Celeron M 430 should be a little slower than the E-300.

 

[Kelemvor]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/328?vs=73

That's interesting. Some things the old one smokes the new one and some things the new one smokes the old one. heh.

 

[dma0991]

I highly doubt that the old Celeron M would be far better than a E-300 based on the fact that I do have a single core AMD machine lying around and the usability and responsiveness as of now is far less compared to a E-350 machine that I have lying around. The single AMD core that I do have is much better but having one thread only makes everything slow. Transferring a file pins my CPU usage to 100%.

Playing 1080P videos on the Celeron M should be near impossible as I have tried that as well on my single core AMD machine. It works almost flawlessly on my E-350 machine with a very high CPU usage even if DXVA is not enabled. Since we're talking about a laptop, the E-300 is definitely a worthy buy since the Celeron M machine that you have would hardly have 1 hour of usable battery life.

 

[Barfo]

They're both square I think.

 

[soccerballtux]

do you need a processor upgrade? Maybe you just need a RAM upgrade, in which case a machine with 3-4GB on it would be much faster.

 

[alyarb]

The AMD system will at least ship with a HDD that can deliver ~85MB/s and 2GB DDR3-1333. The Intel system probably only has 512/1GB of DDR2-533 and some 40/80GB disk that gets 25-35MB/s at best. Although the intel CPU may be slightly faster in some tests, the extra core and faster RAM and disk in the AMD system should bring substantial improvements in more important areas over the current system in regards to multitasking. Also the additional GPGPU related hardware in the E300 will be leveraged during the display of most rich web content you're likely to encounter which would've otherwise completely loaded the intel CPU. I think you should buy it and take advantage of the return period to see how much faster it really is for what your wife does, which I assume will be primarily browsing the web.

 

[ocre]

get an android tablet. The asus transformer is wicked fast in everything it. You would be blow away like i was. I only used a dual core tegra and i cant wait till the asus transformer2 comes to market in the next few weeks.

The quad core tablets coming very soon i know of:

-Lenovo LePad K2
-Asus Transformer 2 (which has a docking keyboard you can buy to make it more like a netbook)
-HTC Quattro
-Acer A700 & A701 (which should have a 1920 x 1200 supper tablet screen)

We should see a few of these before Xmas if not all of them.

I am telling you guys, if you havent got a chance to check them out, its a real treat. they are so snappy responsive it will really impress you when everything opens instantaneously. High def videos, internet browser, and load a game all in a split second. I was soo impressed with the performance I cant imagine buying a budget netbook anymore.

If the new quad tablets are too high cost, the dual tegra i used was what snagged me hook line and sinker. You might culd find a real bargain on one of those.

I am just saying.......if you have to have a budget x86 then you have to. But if not, you really should check out these dual and quad core android tablets.

 

[Kelemvor]

We're planning on getting the $249 tablet best buy has. That will be a family thign so the kids can play games on it and we can use it for other stuff as well.

The old Toshiba laptop has been upgraded to 2 gigs of ram and a 250gig hard drive. It's running Win7 but has just gotten real slow over time. All it's used for is internet a few custom programs. We don't really have a new laptop in our budget but when I saw it was only $180, I figured maybe it would be a decent upgrade from the old one.

 

[dma0991]

get an android tablet. The asus transformer is wicked fast in everything it. You would be blow away like i was. I only used a dual core tegra and i cant wait till the asus transformer2 comes to market in the next few weeks.

How well does it support word processing that are compatible with .docx, .pptx and .xslx? I do know that Google Docs supports some of the word processing capabilities but if my device is out of a wifi range I would rather have a word processing app that does support formats that Microsoft Office has.

We're planning on getting the $249 tablet best buy has. That will be a family thign so the kids can play games on it and we can use it for other stuff as well.

The old Toshiba laptop has been upgraded to 2 gigs of ram and a 250gig hard drive. It's running Win7 but has just gotten real slow over time. All it's used for is internet a few custom programs. We don't really have a new laptop in our budget but when I saw it was only $180, I figured maybe it would be a decent upgrade from the old one.

It definitely will be a decent upgrade and the programs that you're running are not intensive for the E-300.

 

[frozentundra123456]

We're planning on getting the $249 tablet best buy has. That will be a family thign so the kids can play games on it and we can use it for other stuff as well.

The old Toshiba laptop has been upgraded to 2 gigs of ram and a 250gig hard drive. It's running Win7 but has just gotten real slow over time. All it's used for is internet a few custom programs. We don't really have a new laptop in our budget but when I saw it was only $180, I figured maybe it would be a decent upgrade from the old one.

What tablet is that, could you be more specific? Is it a special Black Friday deal or something? I watch best buy ads carefully and go to the store quite often and have not seen a tablet that cheap.

If it is decent, that is a great price. I am still not totally sold on tablets vs a small laptop though. I am not convinced I want to give up a mouse and keyboard and windows apps.

 

[tweakboy]

My wife has an older laptop that has an Intel Celeron M 430(1.73GHz).

I'm looking at this Best Buy Black Friday deal which is listed as an AMD Dual-Core E300 processor
http://bfads.net/Best-Buy-Black-Friday-Lenovo-156-2GB-DDR3-Memory-250GB-Hard-Drive-Laptop

I don't know anything about the AMD processor to know how it compares. I know it's an entry level laptop, but so was our current one 5-7 years ago. Can anyone tell me how the Celeron M would compare with the AMD E300?

Thanks.

That is still too slow. Get a faster Core 2 Duo Laptop with 4GB ram, get her a 60GB ssd and things will fly or else, the laptop will be sluggish not like a computer workstation. gl

 

[Blitzvogel]

That's interesting. Some things the old one smokes the new one and some things the new one smokes the old one. heh.

Considering the Pentium M was the basis for the Core Duo and then became the Core 2 Duo, I'm not surprised it tends to well outpace the E-300 in what are probably the single threaded tasks. We know how well P-M, CD, and C2D competed against old and newer Athlons at the same clock speeds........

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

That new laptop probably has better battery life.

 

[Kelemvor]

I'm really just concerned about performance. Don't care about battery life. THis is a PC used for internet browsing and a couple other things. No gaming at all.

 

[toyota]

I'm really just concerned about performance. Don't care about battery life. THis is a PC used for internet browsing and a couple other things. No gaming at all.

well the 1.3 E-300 is certainly not going to have much performance. I used the faster 1.6 E-350 for a couple weeks and found it way slower at doing every day stuff than I was expecting. I know some will argue that but the only thing slower I have ever used in the last 5 years is a single core Atom netbook. it should be slightly faster overall than your current cpu though but that's not saying much.

 

[Arkaign]

^^ Truth. For a laptop, better to look at 32nm i3 2xxx or Llano. A little more $ but well worth it.

 

[Cerb]

We don't really have a new laptop in our budget but when I saw it was only $180, I figured maybe it would be a decent upgrade from the old one.

Part of the reason it is $180 (normally ~$300-400?) is that the AMD C- and E-series CPUs were specifically made to be superior cheap low-power CPUs to Intel's Atom. Unlike Intel, they did not add in any restrictions, so OEMs can make full-size notebooks with those CPUs in them (I find them rather tempting). But, make no mistake: they are super-sized netbooks.