Compact Flash cards for video on a 7D

[tinpanalley]

Hey everyone,
Can someone suggest to me a site or a link that might talk about what I should be looking for to shoot video on a 7D at 1080p in the highest possible quality?

Thanks

 

[Gintaras]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=to+shoot+video+on+a+7D+at+1080p+in+the+highest+possible+quality

 

[tinpanalley]

Wow... that's really clever.
I think what bugs me most about asking questions in forums sometimes is the assumption by people who answer questions that I'm a moron and that I haven't already searched around. Clearly if I'm asking it must be because I'm lazy and don't want to do the searching myself, right? Well perhaps I'm asking because every single reference I find to CF cards is from 2009 and I know the technology (and the capabilities of the camera as well via firmware) may have changed since then.
What bugs me the most is that I didn't ask for a straight up answer about what CF card and specs to use. I asked for a link or a site. And even if I had, maybe I'm mistaken but what is a forum for if not to seek answers? But you win. Clever reply of the year award goes to you. Gave me a chuckle.

 

[angry hampster]

Anything 200x or faster should be plenty. I use cards from Sandisk and Lexar professionally with my 5dmk2 and have no issues.

 

[JohnnyRebel]

Wow... that's really clever.

That's pretty typical for Gintaras. Look at how he posted in other posts and don't feel rained on. Best to just ignore him.

JR

 

[corkyg]

Echo Angry Hamster and Johnny Rebel. Likewise, my 5DMKII is perfectly happy with SanDisk and/or Lexar pro models.

 

[JohnnyRebel]

Hey everyone,
Can someone suggest to me a site or a link that might talk about what I should be looking for to shoot video on a 7D at 1080p in the highest possible quality?

Thanks

My understanding is that Canon recommends the UDMA 7 CF cards.

400X
http://www.adorama.com/ILXCF40016G2.html

600X
http://www.adorama.com/ILXPCF60016T.html

Obviously, for "best" results "Big and Fast" is what you're looking for. I've read of cards that perform "well" almost all the time end up dropping frames at odd times. Canon engineeers have found that the UDMA cards perform the best in Canon Cameras.

JR

 

[tinpanalley]

Hey guys,
Thanks so much for all your input. Really appreciate it.
This is what I picked up with my 7D last night...
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...sh_Memory.html

Hmmm.. now I'm worried that I should have gotten THIS instead.

Just wanted to say thanks. I plan on doing some photography (still use a Canon AE-1) but mostly video at 1080p, straight narrative stories, no special effects or anything. I now have to learn how I transfer everything I know about Vision stock and 16mm shooting to this camera. Is this Cinestyle thing by Technicolor any good or can you achieve the same thing with the camera's own settings?

 

[Gintaras]

That's pretty typical for Gintaras. Look at how he posted in other posts and don't feel rained on. Best to just ignore him.

JR

You should have a reason and explain to what you say.

As for OP, If someone buys 7D, should know, that's a DSRL with a video feature. And 7D isn't a camera for beginners or those who would like to learn about photography. There are cameras made for reason - An Entry Level Cameras, doesn't matter brand - Nikon, Canon...etc. You and others can ignore that, but, if someone really wants to learn something about photography and if would ask some good photographers - no matter, is someone an advanced hobbyist or TRULY professions, no one would suggest 7D to learn on...

I plan on doing some photography (still use a Canon AE-1) but mostly video at 1080p, straight narrative stories, no special effects or anything. I now have to learn how I transfer everything I know about Vision stock and 16mm shooting to this camera. Is this Cinestyle thing by Technicolor any good or can you achieve the same thing with the camera's own settings?

#1)I have no idea, who did suggest OP author to buy a DSRL mainly for video. Who wants to shoot mainly video - those buy camcorders, video cameras - both have feature to take still images. If OP author did right choice and I'm one to ignore - explain - why?
#2) If someone is interested in photography and buys 7D, he sure, would ask such question as on OP in dpreview:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1019

instead on anandtech

it's not that hard to find, and if you get 7D, you sure, should know at least about existence of dprewiev...

Suggestion to JohnnyRebel:

When you want to belittle someone, you should state your reasons - why and for what reason. You should give your reason(would be nice, if it would logical reason(s) - why anyone should be ignored. It's a discussions forum, isn't it? No need to get upset if someone disagrees with your views on Ken Rockwell. No need to get that sensitive and to show you feminine side. Be a man and explain - why?

 

[alfa147x]

The 7D i s a prosumer camera. It's not a bad camera for beginner.
I didn't realize it was such a crime to ask a question. No need to be a dick about it.

For photography I use:
Lexar 4GB Professional 400x
SanDisk 8GB /4GB Extreme


Video:
SanDisk 16GB Extreme Pro
SanDisk 8GB Extreme

 

[tinpanalley]

Gintaras,
I'll be the first to apologise if I misinterpreted your help as sarcasm and attitude but I think I'm not alone in thinking you had less honourable intentions with your initial reply.

My problem with your second response is that you're not paying attention to my question, lending further evidence to the idea that you're just trying to be clever. My thread, word for word, is entitled "Compact Flash cards for video on a 7D". My question is about CF card specs. It is in a 'Digital and Video Cameras' Forum within 'Consumer Electronics' at Anandtech which is pretty widely known as a tech forum and site. So, first of all, your comment that "If someone is interested in photography" is totally off as I'm not asking at all about photography, I'm asking about flash storage specs as they pertain to the capturing of HD video on a 7D and what specs I should be watching out for. Second of all, you don't get to decide what a person should or shouldn't buy for video. This may come as a shock to you, but the world doesn't operate according to your opinions of what a person should or shouldn't do.
Finally to the idea that I'm a "beginner" as you imply in your phrase that the "7D isn't a camera for beginners"... I've made 4 films. My first on miniDV 10 years ago, 3 since then on 16mm b&w reversal, and 16mm color Vision film. I am a writer, producer, cinematographer, director, and editor. I hardly think my exploration of a 7D makes me a beginner even if I have to adapt to a new system that isn't a 16mm Arri. And even if it did make me a beginner, who are you to tell me I can't buy one?
One last thing, your comment to JohnnyRebel about not showing his feminine side and being a man only helps to prove his idea that you are best left to your comments without taking offense because it simply isn't worth it to try to persuade a person who's entire system of argument comes down to being able to outdo you with his obviously firmly planted and secured masculinity. I like listening to smart people who disagree with me, it's a quality I look for in hiring crew on one of my films, but somebody who can resort to sexist childishness to make a point is someone I prefer not to listen to.
I apologise to you Gintaras, for having offended you with my naive, beginner, inexperienced stupidity. My apologies.

 

[angry hampster]

Hey guys,
Thanks so much for all your input. Really appreciate it.
This is what I picked up with my 7D last night...
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...sh_Memory.html

Hmmm.. now I'm worried that I should have gotten THIS instead.

Just wanted to say thanks. I plan on doing some photography (still use a Canon AE-1) but mostly video at 1080p, straight narrative stories, no special effects or anything. I now have to learn how I transfer everything I know about Vision stock and 16mm shooting to this camera. Is this Cinestyle thing by Technicolor any good or can you achieve the same thing with the camera's own settings?

Great price on that Sandisk card. Should be top-notch for video. The transfer speeds to your computer may not be as fast as some of the high-end cards, but you won't notice a difference in your camera.

 

[tinpanalley]

Do I gain any real benefit from exchanging it for the Lexar 600X then? What kind of read speed difference are we talking about?

 

[angry hampster]

Honestly not enough to matter IMO.

 

[Spamela]

with my 7d i use this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ms_ohs_product

plenty of space & speed & lifetime warranty.

 

[mchammer187]

You should have a reason and explain to what you say.

As for OP, If someone buys 7D, should know, that's a DSRL with a video feature. And 7D isn't a camera for beginners or those who would like to learn about photography. There are cameras made for reason - An Entry Level Cameras, doesn't matter brand - Nikon, Canon...etc. You and others can ignore that, but, if someone really wants to learn something about photography and if would ask some good photographers - no matter, is someone an advanced hobbyist or TRULY professions, no one would suggest 7D to learn on...



#1)I have no idea, who did suggest OP author to buy a DSRL mainly for video. Who wants to shoot mainly video - those buy camcorders, video cameras - both have feature to take still images. If OP author did right choice and I'm one to ignore - explain - why?
#2) If someone is interested in photography and buys 7D, he sure, would ask such question as on OP in dpreview:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1019

instead on anandtech

it's not that hard to find, and if you get 7D, you sure, should know at least about existence of dprewiev...

Suggestion to JohnnyRebel:

When you want to belittle someone, you should state your reasons - why and for what reason. You should give your reason(would be nice, if it would logical reason(s) - why anyone should be ignored. It's a discussions forum, isn't it? No need to get upset if someone disagrees with your views on Ken Rockwell. No need to get that sensitive and to show you feminine side. Be a man and explain - why?

<------ learning on a 7D I don't really see the problem. I wanted a camera with superb AF and it was either that or the D7000. My friend who got a D90 is regretting not getting a D7000 or 7D. I'm not saying everyone should learned on a 7D but IMO using a 7D makes learning more fun. Having the extra dials and custom modes makes you appreciate the camera more. With more expensive cameras they don't get any more complex they just expand the feature set but doing the exact same thing on there prosumer series (non-Rebel) is easier. I tried using my friends Rebel XSi and it really is a night and day difference in ease and accessibility.

I did get a book that does go into detail of every feature in the camera and went through it several times to learn the ins and outs.

I compare it to learning to send text messages using T9 vs learning to type on a smartphone.

If this is something you want to be serious about than spending the extra money (assuming you have it) is not going to hurt. By no means it is a requirement but is easier to learn on.

 

[Gintaras]

<------ learning on a 7D I don't really see the problem. I wanted a camera with superb AF and it was either that or the D7000. My friend who got a D90 is regretting not getting a D7000 or 7D. I'm not saying everyone should learned on a 7D but IMO using a 7D makes learning more fun. Having the extra dials and custom modes makes you appreciate the camera more. With more expensive cameras they don't get any more complex they just expand the feature set but doing the exact same thing on there prosumer series (non-Rebel) is easier. I tried using my friends Rebel XSi and it really is a night and day difference in ease and accessibility.

I did get a book that does go into detail of every feature in the camera and went through it several times to learn the ins and outs.

I compare it to learning to send text messages using T9 vs learning to type on a smartphone.

If this is something you want to be serious about than spending the extra money (assuming you have it) is not going to hurt. By no means it is a requirement but is easier to learn on.

What can I say? If you're able to learn that fast 7D coming from out of nowhere, and photo's are amazing, next thing to consider - Hasselblad, Mamyia, Phase One...

Aren't you sorry for years going to elementary school, when it's possible without learning basics, to "jump" right to the college?

Superb AF on 7D? why then?:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=40077950

Interesting would be to see, what have you learned and photos, if any to share.

 

[alfa147x]

A 7D isn't as technical of a camera as you think.

 

[Gintaras]

The 7D i s a prosumer camera. It's not a bad camera for beginner.
I didn't realize it was such a crime to ask a question. No need to be a dick about it.

For photography I use:
Lexar 4GB Professional 400x
SanDisk 8GB /4GB Extreme


Video:
SanDisk 16GB Extreme Pro
SanDisk 8GB Extreme

Someone, with more money in the pocket, could say: Hasselblad is pretty good camera to learn about photography.

Memory - CF or SD - most popular in DSRL, not only depends on CF or SD card writing speed, it depends on camera writing to the card speeds too...There might be a limits.
Before you spend extra $ on CF or SD, check how fast camera can write to memory card.

 

[alfa147x]

Someone, with more money in the pocket, could say: Hasselblad is pretty good camera to learn about photography.

Memory - CF or SD - most popular in DSRL, not only depends on CF or SD card writing speed, it depends on camera writing to the card speeds too...There might be a limits.
Before you spend extra $ on CF or SD, check how fast camera can write to memory card.

 

[mchammer187]

What can I say? If you're able to learn that fast 7D coming from out of nowhere, and photo's are amazing, next thing to consider - Hasselblad, Mamyia, Phase One...

Aren't you sorry for years going to elementary school, when it's possible without learning basics, to "jump" right to the college?

Superb AF on 7D? why then?:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=40077950

Interesting would be to see, what have you learned and photos, if any to share.

I don't have a problem with someone learning on a hassleblad or phase one. I would not because they don't do what I want. They are not rugged/weather sealed. The lens selection is not as good and the af on those is pretty poor because they are studio/landscape cameras.

That said the reason why the 7d is a good beginner camera is it does everything the rebel line does except better and easier. The same cannot be said with any of the medium format cameras. The only reason you appear to be against it is it costs a few hundred dollars more I think if you have actually spent a lot of time with one you would realize the learning curve for doing the same thing on them is the same or less than the other cameras in their line which is why I think it is a good camera to learn on.

 

[angry hampster]

Lens selection on a blad isn't good. Really?

 

[mchammer187]

Lens selection on a blad isn't good. Really?

I didn't say no good just not as good as EF or Nikon F mount. is it bad no but is comparable in selection not really.

 

[angry hampster]

I didn't say no good just not as good as EF or Nikon F mount. is it bad no but is comparable in selection not really.

Half the lenses made for EF or F are crap though.

 

[mchammer187]

Half the lenses made for EF or F are crap though.

True but my original point was the Hassleblad is a studio camera.

Can you get an 800mm equivalent (1260mm on crop) on a Hassleblad no. Am I likely to ever own an 800mm lens probably not. But if I choose to I can get one lensrentals.com for not too much. What the Hassleblad is designed for (studio/landscape) it is going to be better than Canon/Nikon but it is nowhere near as versatile. AFAIK none of the MF cameras are meant to be walk around that is why. Can you get any lenses that have 4 stops of IS? I am pretty sure you can't. I definitely plan on renting the 200-400 f4 + 1.4 TC if that ever comes out. Would I love to have a Hassleblad? You bet but for a multipurpose camera it surely is not going to be the best choice.