Communist China funding takeover of America by Republican Party.

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You do know there is a Predator drone watching your every move at this point?
 

werepossum

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Republican Chinese Communism lurking in campaign contributions. Republicans make deals with to subvert Constitution.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/11/us/politics/11obama.html

For those of you too stupid to know how stupid you are, the Republican party is the Communist party and they are out to enslave us in totalitarian rule.

Medication should always be taken as directed, Moonie. The article you quoted makes no mention of Chinese Communism funding the Republican Party. The only accusations leveled even by the desperate and delusional in the White House are that "foreign companies" may be funding the US Chamber of Commerce. Their "evidence"? That the Chamber won't disclose their contributors (so that the Dems may properly punish them for exercising their free speech rights.) I suppose it's possible that the Chicoms don't want a second Communist world power, but absolutely nothing in this article is evidence of that.

Do feel free to entertain us further, though. And everyone remember to chant "The party that wants to imprison us if we use our own money for our own health care is the party of freedom." (Best chanted with our special DNC Kool-Aid.)
 

spidey07

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It's long past time for mccarthism to root out the democrats and our president. Once we have the house they'll be exposed. Fuck Obama. May the great fuck be upon him and his supporters.
 

Lanyap

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Evidence?
Facts to back up your thread title?
Dems are getting even more desperate.
Change and hope.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/us/politics/09donate.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper

October 8, 2010
Topic of Foreign Money in U.S. Races Hits Hustings
By ERIC LICHTBLAU
WASHINGTON — Ever since he raised the issue in his State of the Union speech nearly nine months ago — prompting head-shaking by Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. of the Supreme Court — President Obama has been warning about the danger of foreign money creeping into elections as a result of the court’s landmark campaign finance ruling.

In two campaign stops Thursday, Mr. Obama invoked what he portrayed as a specific new example, citing a blog posting from a liberal advocacy group as he teed off on a longtime adversary, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, over its political spending.

“Just this week, we learned that one of the largest groups paying for these ads regularly takes in money from foreign corporations,” Mr. Obama said. “So groups that receive foreign money are spending huge sums to influence American elections.”

But a closer examination shows that there is little evidence that what the chamber does in collecting overseas dues is improper or even unusual, according to both liberal and conservative election-law lawyers and campaign finance documents.

In fact, the controversy over the Chamber of Commerce financing may say more about the Washington spin cycle — where an Internet blog posting can be quickly picked up by like-minded groups and become political fodder for the president himself — than it does about the vagaries of campaign finance.

Organizations from both ends of the political spectrum, from liberal ones like the A.F.L.-C.I.O. and the Sierra Club to conservative groups like the National Rifle Association, have international affiliations and get money from foreign entities while at the same time pushing political causes in the United States.

In addition, more than 160 political action committees active in campaigning have been set up by corporations that are based overseas, including military contractors like B.A.E. Systems and pharmaceutical giants like GlaxoSmithKline, according to data from the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan research service.

Such groups, which collectively have spent hundreds of millions dollars on political causes to advance their agenda, are required by law to ensure that any foreign money they receive is isolated and not used to finance political activities, which would violate a longstanding federal ban. The Chamber of Commerce says it has a vigorous process for ensuring that does not happen, and no evidence has emerged to suggest that is untrue.

Richard L. Hasen, an election-law specialist at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, said there were legitimate questions about whether foreign money could be making its way into campaigns, particularly because many groups are not required to disclose their donors. But he added, “I’ve seen no proof of the chamber funneling a penny of foreign money into U.S. elections.”

The specter of foreign money entering American campaigns has been a potent political issue over the years. President Bill Clinton’s 1996 re-election campaign gave rise to evidence of illegal contributions from overseas.

Mr. Obama himself faced accusations by conservative opponents in his 2008 campaign that his large online fund-raising efforts may have generated contributions from foreign nationals barred from contributing. No allegations were substantiated.

“People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones,” said Bruce Josten, chief lobbyist for the chamber, as he recalled the 2008 allegations.

He accused Mr. Obama of using “smear tactics” in bringing up the issue at two separate campaign stops this week in order to deflect attention from his own record as the midterm elections approach. “This is a White House that seems to like to pick an enemy and use it as a foil to advance an agenda,” he said.

Mr. Josten said the Chamber of Commerce had 115 foreign member affiliates in 108 countries, who pay a total of less than $100,000 in membership dues that go into its general fund.

The group’s total budget is more than $200 million, and Mr. Josten said the group had safeguards to segregate the small fraction generated overseas from other accounts to comply with federal law and avoid bleeding into political spending.

The group has already spent more than $25 million on an aggressive political ad campaign in attacking policies it considers anti-business and the candidates, overwhelmingly Democrats, who have supported those policies. The chamber expects to spend at least $50 million by the November elections.

“We don’t raise money from foreign corporation for our public affairs activities,” Mr. Josten said. “I am absolutely certain we are in full compliance with all federal campaign laws.”

The issue of the chamber’s funding first gained notice this week when ThinkProgress, a blog affiliated with the Center for American Progress, an influential liberal advocacy group, posted a lengthy piece with the headline “Exclusive: Foreign-Funded ‘U.S.’ Chamber of Commerce Running Partisan Attack Ads.”

The piece detailed the chamber’s overseas memberships, but it provided no evidence that the money generated overseas had been used in United States campaigns. Still, liberal groups like MoveOn.org pounced on the allegations, resulting in protests at the chamber’s offices, a demand for a federal investigation by Senator Al Franken, Democrat of Minnesota, and ultimately the remarks by Mr. Obama himself.

White House officials acknowledged Friday that they had no specific evidence to indicate that the chamber had used money from foreign entities to finance political attack ads.


“The president was not suggesting any illegality,” Bob Bauer, the White House counsel, said. Instead, he said Mr. Obama’s reference to the chamber was meant to draw attention to the inadequacies of campaign disclosure laws in allowing groups to spend large amounts of money on politics without disclosing their donors.

White House officials called on the chamber to go beyond current disclosure laws and establish that no foreign money has been used in its political campaigns. “They can put this to rest,” said Joshua Earnest, a White House spokesman. “They have the keys to the file cabinet.”

But a number of Republicans said Friday that they thought Mr. Obama’s attack was unfair.

“It’s really just unfortunate and irresponsible rhetoric from the White House,” said Benjamin L. Ginsberg, a Republican campaign finance lawyer. “These charges are just not real.”
 

JSt0rm

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His thread title was done that way to mock the thread titles all you neocons usually use. You guys are idiots.
 

lothar

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The Democrats have offered no evidence that the chamber is using foreign money to influence the elections. The chamber has overseas affiliates that pay dues to the main organization but says it segregates those funds from any used for electioneering.
David Axelrod, the president’s senior adviser, was asked by Bob Schieffer on CBS’s “Face the Nation” if he had any evidence that the chamber was using secret foreign funds to influence the election. “Well, do you have any evidence that it’s not, Bob?” Mr. Axelrod replied. “The fact is that the chamber has asserted that but they won’t release any information about where their campaign money is coming from. And that’s at the core of the problem here.”
Well...Do you have any evidence that God doesn't exist?

D.N.C. spokesman, Hari Sevugan, likewise offered no evidence and suggested it was up to the chamber to disprove the assertions. “Serious questions have been raised,” he said in an email. “If they want to clear this up, they can open up their books.”
The chamber is hardly the only organization playing a role in the campaign that has international affiliations and gets money from foreign institutions. Among others are groups on the political left like the A.F.L.-C.I.O. and the Sierra Club.
Corporations affecting US elections. It's up to AFL/CIO and Sierra Club to provide evidence to the contrary and open up their books.
 

Amused

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Lanyap

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His thread title was done that way to mock the thread titles all you neocons usually use. You guys are idiots.


Please don't call Moonbeam an idiot. He's an ok guy and he's smart too.
 

Zebo

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“They’re stealing our democracy, spending millions from secret donors to elect Republicans to do their bidding in Congress,” the narrator intones. “It appears they’ve even taken secret foreign money to influence our elections.”

80% did not want bank and auto bailouts dems did it anyway. Money talks with both of them, all bills are nothing more than payola for money who put them there - once you understand this you'll stop being idealistic and be free.
 

Craig234

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80% did not want bank and auto bailouts dems did it anyway. Money talks with both of them, all bills are nothing more than payola for money who put them there - once you understand this you'll stop being idealistic and be free.

I just looked at auto, try 60% not 80%, and that 60% was wrong, the Dems did the right thing for the country at political cost.

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-12-03/...estic-automakers-auto-industry?_s=PM:POLITICS

You think the auto makers should have had the financial crisis put them out of business permanently as the infrastructure was put out of business and foreign businesses took over?
 

qliveur

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It was like giving a blood transfusion to a corpse. All it managed to do was reward the UAW for voting Democrat and bankrupting their employers.
 

ayabe

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The Chamber elicits donations through their foreign offices and just has to promise that they'll use that cash on things other than political activities. Since cash is fungible, well......

Teabag tag brought you by spidey's leash holders in Bahrain.
 

Moonbeam

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There are two kinds of conservatives, those who are working for the Communists to destroy America and know it and the few really stupid ones who are working for the Communists to destroy America and don't know it. The Communists have been working for years and years to infiltrate the Republican party like pedophiles have been working their way into the Catholic church, where s presumed mantle of anti Communist vigil and moral vigor hides the real evil.
 

Moonbeam

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That's weird, the path to communism is straight through socialism.

You have been brainwashed where, North Korea? Real Americans see through your tricks. The path to Communism is through Communist funded Bush unemployment and takeover of the conservative movement.
 

IronWing

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That's weird, the path to communism is straight through socialism.
And yet dozens of prosperous nations have enjoyed varying levels of socialism for well over a century without budging toward communism. Meanwhile nations with no socialist policies plunged straight into communist revolution.
 

Moonbeam

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werepossum: Medication should always be taken as directed, Moonie.

Hey you fluorine rotted limpadicted Viagra popper, your brain has gone soft too.

w: The article you quoted makes no mention of Chinese Communism funding the Republican Party.

M: No fucking kidding. It's there big as life between the lines. You Communist shills, naturally, are going to deny. Its what you Communist moles do.

w: The only accusations leveled even by the desperate and delusional in the White House are that "foreign companies" may be funding the US Chamber of Commerce. Their "evidence"? That the Chamber won't disclose their contributors (so that the Dems may properly punish them for exercising their free speech rights.) I suppose it's possible that the Chicoms don't want a second Communist world power, but absolutely nothing in this article is evidence of that.

M: Liar, you are in the pocket of the Communists, a trained obfuscation expert and patsy.

w: Do feel free to entertain us further, though. And everyone remember to chant "The party that wants to imprison us if we use our own money for our own health care is the party of freedom." (Best chanted with our special DNC Kool-Aid.)

M: Right, drink this Kool-Aid down. More Communist slide of hand.
 

lothar

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I don't understand why these allegations aren't sticking. I mean, if you don't have any solid evidence of something, say WMD's, it just means they're hiding it really well, right?
 

lothar

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I don't understand why these allegations aren't sticking. I mean, if you don't have any solid evidence of something, say WMD's, it just means they're hiding it really well, right?
The allegations seem to be sticking well in the media and here on Anandtech without any solid evidence...