Communist China funding takeover of America by Republican Party.

[PJABBER]

Don't worry, looks like it's mostly just Indian:
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/13/chamber-foreign-funded-media/

LOL, a bunch of consulting firms?

Paying $5,000 - $15,000 annual membership dues to be part of the American Chambers overseas (almost every country has one!) - wow, that isn't even going to pay for the annual local Christmas party! I know for a fact that you also have to pay $10, $20, maybe $25 bucks a head for the rubber chicken dinners. The meals aren't even worth half that price! And drinks are extra! Always a cash bar! Maybe that is where the AMCHAMS are getting funneled funds!

Consulting firms? These are the bad guys that the Dems are pointing fingers at?

These guys use the Chamber events to flog their services. They go to the meetings to meet potential customers and they pay dues for the privilege of networking with other business execs.

It is marketing involvement! Most of the people going to AMCHAM events are sales people trying to do sales to other sales people! LOL! And hard work it is, too, swallowing those rubber chicken dinners every month!

I've been to over a hundred AMCHAM dinners/events all over world. Maybe once there has been a political discussion at the dinner table, never on the agenda of a guest speaker. People belong and attend to shmooze and pick up business contacts.

I know! It must be a conspiracy against rubber chicken dinners!

Where do I sign up?

 

[cubby1223]

*sigh*

The real truth to the President and the Democrats on this issue is they don't care one bit about possible "foreign campaign contributions". They want the U.S. Chamber to come out and reveal their Domestic contributors.

In this case, "disclosure" is not being used in the sense that it makes the campaign process more transparent, more honest - "disclosure" is being used as a campaign strategy to favor the side of the political fence that is more vicious. Think Moveon.org's attack on Target, or the attacks on the Arizona Diamondbacks for examples of what "the left" wants to make of full disclosure. They feel they can out-muscle "the right" in a Battle Royale.

 

[trenchfoot]

Oh wait wait....now what party fillibustered the Disclose Act twice which affects both Dems and repubs equally?

 

[werepossum]

Oh wait wait....now what party fillibustered the Diclose Act twice which affects both Dems and repubs equally?

Just out of morbid curiosity, how dos a bill that exempts all the Dems' major contributors "affect both Dems and repubs equally?"

 

[trenchfoot]

Just out of morbid curiosity, how dos a bill that exempts all the Dems' major contributors "affect both Dems and repubs equally?"

Ooops, sorry...I didn't know the NRA was a major Dem contributor.

 

[LunarRay]

Finally I think I get it. What you're calling greed I'd call ego, the mask that covers self hate, the compulsion to compete with another and beat him because feeling worthless drives you to need to feel superior. It's all about a need to fill a self inflicted vacuum.

Self hate is the root of all evil. It is what creates the whole notion of evil in the first place. There isn't any evil but the belief in lies.

Sure, greed is a state of mind that is derived from some obsession that has as its agenda the destruction of itself. Greed is justified by the greedy much like the bigot justifies their proclivities. Greed is called ambition... The Ego's need to advance... even to invoke the assassin theory (my term - to insure the ladder above is empty for your progress you assassinate or you cultivate... either way you use and abuse.).

The smart folks know the nature of their greed and that of the minions and play it for all it's worth... They tend to succeed because greed tends to be dumb to its own demise. ~~ "A greedy fool and his money are soon separated."

I've often wondered... IF greed is ambition is the beggar without greed or ambition... or both and is that cuz he uses yet another trick to entice the giving.... heheheheheheheheh He works on the self hate that the giving tries to dissolve.

 

[PJABBER]

Ooops, sorry...I didn't know the NRA was a major Dem contributor.

The NRA is very issue specific and supports legislators who are pro-gun rights. Other issues are irrelevant. They usually contribute to pro-gun incumbents as they can then rely on actual voting records.

The latest numbers show that they are currently contributing $2 to Republicans for every $1 they give to Democrats. Over the past 10 years 80% of their money has gone to Republicans.

The NRA is the 250th largest political donor in the country. Their power is not in the money they spend but in the voting power of its membership.

The real beneficiaries of exemptions to the failed Disclose Act are the unions. And it is here that you see the real money.

The NRA is not even on the list of the top 200 donors to political campaigns. That list is dominated by unions. And unions donate to Democrats almost exclusively in amounts that are astounding. Hence, the targeted exemptions offer to them by the Democrat Congress.

Top National Donors

 

[Moonbeam]

LOL, a bunch of consulting firms?

Paying $5,000 - $15,000 annual membership dues to be part of the American Chambers overseas (almost every country has one!) - wow, that isn't even going to pay for the annual local Christmas party! I know for a fact that you also have to pay $10, $20, maybe $25 bucks a head for the rubber chicken dinners. The meals aren't even worth half that price! And drinks are extra! Always a cash bar! Maybe that is where the AMCHAMS are getting funneled funds!

Consulting firms? These are the bad guys that the Dems are pointing fingers at?

These guys use the Chamber events to flog their services. They go to the meetings to meet potential customers and they pay dues for the privilege of networking with other business execs.

It is marketing involvement! Most of the people going to AMCHAM events are sales people trying to do sales to other sales people! LOL! And hard work it is, too, swallowing those rubber chicken dinners every month!

I've been to over a hundred AMCHAM dinners/events all over world. Maybe once there has been a political discussion at the dinner table, never on the agenda of a guest speaker. People belong and attend to shmooze and pick up business contacts.

I know! It must be a conspiracy against rubber chicken dinners!

Where do I sign up?

Have you ever read sweet talking Comme bull pucky like this?

 

[werepossum]

Ooops, sorry...I didn't know the NRA was a major Dem contributor.

Yes, the NRA supports mainly Republicans - because as PJabber said they are a single issue advocacy group and Democrats tend to have little or no regard for the Second Amendment. However, including one 2/3 Republican group hardly offsets including all 9/10 Democrat groups.

More to the point, making one set of rules for even both parties' traditional supporters and another, more restrictive set for the rest of us is WRONG. Everyone needs to play by the same rules, including Democrats and Republicans but not JUST Democrats and Republicans.

 

[Scotteq]

We won't really know until (next week??) when the disclosures are due.



Though: The Wall Street Journal says Dems have more money that Repubs: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704164004575548451695013866.html

Democratic candidates, notably incumbents, have raised more cash than many of their Republican rivals in this year's most competitive House races, according to a Wall Street Journal tally of Federal Election Commission data. In the 40 races deemed toss-ups by the Cook Political Report, a political handicapper, Democratic candidates had a combined $39.3 million of cash on hand as of June 30, the most-recent filing deadline. Republican candidates had $16.5 million in the bank.

 

[trenchfoot]

Yes, the NRA supports mainly Republicans - because as PJabber said they are a single issue advocacy group and Democrats tend to have little or no regard for the Second Amendment. However, including one 2/3 Republican group hardly offsets including all 9/10 Democrat groups.

More to the point, making one set of rules for even both parties' traditional supporters and another, more restrictive set for the rest of us is WRONG. Everyone needs to play by the same rules, including Democrats and Republicans but not JUST Democrats and Republicans.

I agree. Good point.

 

[werepossum]

I agree. Good point.

Thank you.

 

[JSt0rm]

I agree. Good point.

Thank you.

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