daniel1113
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Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: alchemize
I'm quite comfortable that if Gore had been elected, it would have been prevented though
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
Sorry I forget the
Some folks just don't understand that changing the US government is like trying to turn the titanic with a 3 sq ft rudder.
Hmmmm, so I guess we should give up trying to find out what went wrong and perhaps who was responsible? If the government could have prevented 9/11, but didn't, we shouldn't bother trying to determine where things went wrong so we can do it differently next time.
AL QUEDA, BIN LADEN, AND OTHER ANTI-AMERICAN TERRORISTS ARE WHAT WENT WRONG AND ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE. Is this hard to understand?
Exactly. Clinton is as much to blame as Bush and I'm sure if Gore was President it still would of happened. Not at any time have I read where either Clinton or Gore said that if they were President this would have been avoided. Sure there are those in the Bush Administration that screwed the pooch over this but what makes anyone think that Clinton or Gores Administration would have done any better?Originally posted by: daniel1113
Of course 9/11 could have been prevented... then again, so could Pearl Harbor, Oklahoma City Bombing, and every other disaster in this country. Perhaps Bush should be held accountable for those incidents as well... or we could all stop pointing fingers and realize that Bin Laden, Al Queda, and the other anti-American terrorists are the ones responsible.
Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: alchemize
I'm quite comfortable that if Gore had been elected, it would have been prevented though
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
Sorry I forget the
Some folks just don't understand that changing the US government is like trying to turn the titanic with a 3 sq ft rudder.
Hmmmm, so I guess we should give up trying to find out what went wrong and perhaps who was responsible? If the government could have prevented 9/11, but didn't, we shouldn't bother trying to determine where things went wrong so we can do it differently next time.
AL QUEDA, BIN LADEN, AND OTHER ANTI-AMERICAN TERRORISTS ARE WHAT WENT WRONG AND ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE. Is this hard to understand?
August 6, 2001 Bush receives a memo with the headline "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN THE US". Now that is called a warning that something is up. Why did Bush fail to understand that, and the practically countless other warnings?
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Exactly. Clinton is as much to blame as Bush and I'm sure if Gore was President it still would of happened. Not at any time have I read where either Clinton or Gore said that if they were President this would have been avoided. Sure there are those in the Bush Administration that screwed the pooch over this but what makes anyone think that Clinton or Gores Administration would have done any better?Originally posted by: daniel1113
Of course 9/11 could have been prevented... then again, so could Pearl Harbor, Oklahoma City Bombing, and every other disaster in this country. Perhaps Bush should be held accountable for those incidents as well... or we could all stop pointing fingers and realize that Bin Laden, Al Queda, and the other anti-American terrorists are the ones responsible.
Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Exactly. Clinton is as much to blame as Bush and I'm sure if Gore was President it still would of happened. Not at any time have I read where either Clinton or Gore said that if they were President this would have been avoided. Sure there are those in the Bush Administration that screwed the pooch over this but what makes anyone think that Clinton or Gores Administration would have done any better?Originally posted by: daniel1113
Of course 9/11 could have been prevented... then again, so could Pearl Harbor, Oklahoma City Bombing, and every other disaster in this country. Perhaps Bush should be held accountable for those incidents as well... or we could all stop pointing fingers and realize that Bin Laden, Al Queda, and the other anti-American terrorists are the ones responsible.
The fact that there would be no neocon morons in those administrations.
Are you aware that some military numbnuts in the Joints Chiefs once actually planned an operation, a staged Cuban "attack" complete with US casulties, geared towards turning public sentiment to accept a US invasion of Cuba?
Operation Northwoods
Fortunately JFK was sane enough to tell them where to put that plan. Now what would a less astute President have done?
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Exactly. Clinton is as much to blame as Bush and I'm sure if Gore was President it still would of happened. Not at any time have I read where either Clinton or Gore said that if they were President this would have been avoided. Sure there are those in the Bush Administration that screwed the pooch over this but what makes anyone think that Clinton or Gores Administration would have done any better?Originally posted by: daniel1113
Of course 9/11 could have been prevented... then again, so could Pearl Harbor, Oklahoma City Bombing, and every other disaster in this country. Perhaps Bush should be held accountable for those incidents as well... or we could all stop pointing fingers and realize that Bin Laden, Al Queda, and the other anti-American terrorists are the ones responsible.
The fact that there would be no neocon morons in those administrations.
Are you aware that some military numbnuts in the Joints Chiefs once actually planned an operation, a staged Cuban "attack" complete with US casulties, geared towards turning public sentiment to accept a US invasion of Cuba?
Operation Northwoods
Fortunately JFK was sane enough to tell them where to put that plan. Now what would a less astute President have done?
Are you aware that the joint chiefs of staff also advocated bombing an apsiran factory that killed hundreds of innocent children... during the Clinton administration? The list could go on and on, but what good would it do? Probably as much good as your pointless comment.
Originally posted by: daniel1113
AL QUEDA, BIN LADEN, AND OTHER ANTI-AMERICAN TERRORISTS ARE WHAT WENT WRONG AND ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE. Is this hard to understand?
Originally posted by: GrGr
August 6, 2001 Bush receives a memo with the headline "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN THE US". Now that is called a warning that something is up. Why did Bush fail to understand that, and the practically countless other warnings?
...if I was doing the job...
"Appointed by the Bush administration, Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, is now pointing fingers inside the administration and laying blame."Originally posted by: Corn
...if I was doing the job...
This is exactly why I knew this "commission" would be a joke. What "job" are you talking about you doing Mr. Kean? Did these so-called "failures" have a history leading you to this conclusion, or are you claiming that because they failed to stop 9-11 you would have not hired them long before the 9-11 attacks? Do you have a crystal ball Mr. Kean? If so, I could use a little investment advice........
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
"Appointed by the Bush administration, Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, is now pointing fingers inside the administration and laying blame."Originally posted by: Corn
...if I was doing the job...
This is exactly why I knew this "commission" would be a joke. What "job" are you talking about you doing Mr. Kean? Did these so-called "failures" have a history leading you to this conclusion, or are you claiming that because they failed to stop 9-11 you would have not hired them long before the 9-11 attacks? Do you have a crystal ball Mr. Kean? If so, I could use a little investment advice........
You want to be careful trusting a Republican, Corn. They are lying bastards.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
"Appointed by the Bush administration, Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, is now pointing fingers inside the administration and laying blame."
You want to be careful trusting a politician, Corn. They are lying bastards.
Originally posted by: ZaneNBK
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
"Appointed by the Bush administration, Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, is now pointing fingers inside the administration and laying blame."
You want to be careful trusting a politician, Corn. They are lying bastards.
Fixed your post for you.
I wasn't writing for myself as I surely agree, but for Corn who needs one step at a time.Originally posted by: ZaneNBK
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
"Appointed by the Bush administration, Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, is now pointing fingers inside the administration and laying blame."
You want to be careful trusting a politician, Corn. They are lying bastards.
Fixed your post for you.
True. But invading Afghanistan wouldn't have gone over too well in the pre-9/11 era.Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Given Clinton's long game of cat 'n mouse w/ Osama, you would imagine that the Bush administration would have moved immediately on capturing or killing him. Sadly, it doesn't appear they took the threat anymore seriously than Clinton. Too bad.
Given what you're saying, how can anyone claim Clinton didn't do enough?Originally posted by: Shanti
True. But invading Afghanistan wouldn't have gone over too well in the pre-9/11 era.Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Given Clinton's long game of cat 'n mouse w/ Osama, you would imagine that the Bush administration would have moved immediately on capturing or killing him. Sadly, it doesn't appear they took the threat anymore seriously than Clinton. Too bad.
And short of that, I'm not sure how you would expect him to catch him. In fact, we can't even catch him now when we are in Afghanistan.
All Clinton had to do was say "OK, we'll take him".Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Given what you're saying, how can anyone claim Clinton didn't do enough?Originally posted by: Shanti
True. But invading Afghanistan wouldn't have gone over too well in the pre-9/11 era.Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Given Clinton's long game of cat 'n mouse w/ Osama, you would imagine that the Bush administration would have moved immediately on capturing or killing him. Sadly, it doesn't appear they took the threat anymore seriously than Clinton. Too bad.
And short of that, I'm not sure how you would expect him to catch him. In fact, we can't even catch him now when we are in Afghanistan.