Commission chairman - 9/11 Attack was preventable.

[SuperTool]

Something the Blame Clinton First crowd isn't posting

Appointed by the Bush administration, Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, is now pointing fingers inside the administration and laying blame.

"There are people that, if I was doing the job, would certainly not be in the position they were in at that time because they failed. They simply failed," Kean said.

To find out who failed and why, the commission has navigated a political landmine, threatening a subpoena to gain access to the president's top-secret daily briefs. Those documents may shed light on one of the most controversial assertions of the Bush administration ? that there was never any thought given to the idea that terrorists might fly an airplane into a building.

"I don't think anybody could have predicted that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile," said national security adviser Condoleeza Rice on May 16, 2002.

"How is it possible we have a national security advisor coming out and saying we had no idea they could use planes as weapons when we had FBI records from 1991 stating that this is a possibility," said Kristen Breitweiser, one of four New Jersey widows who lobbied Congress and the president to appoint the commission.

 

[DealMonkey]

It's too bad he doesn't finger the individuals who he thinks are responsible. He clearly says "inside the administration," but who does he mean?

 

[SuperTool]

Condie Rice is mentioned. I think it is telling that Bush got her as national security advisor. She is a specialist on Russia, so Bush was still in Cold Warrior mode.

 

[Bowfinger]

Go away, troll. Everyone knows it was BJ Clinton's fault. He could have stopped bin Laden personally if he wasn't so busy being a normal heterosexual male. Thank God we have George W. Bush at the wheel. He's different. He just screws the public. And the environment. And the economy.


(Just thought I'd get that out before the YABA multitudes bleat in.)

 

[Bowfinger]

BTW, great article. It's about time we got some personal responsibility out of this administration . . . even if someone else has to deliver it.

 

[tnitsuj]

Hindsight is bloody wonderful isn't it?

 

[heartsurgeon]

"How is it possible we have a national security advisor coming out and saying we had no idea they could use planes as weapons when we had FBI records from 1991 stating that this is a possibility," said Kristen Breitweiser, one of four New Jersey widows who lobbied Congress and the president to appoint the commission.

from CBS news....

if i recall, He Who Shall Not Be Named was President for more than a few years after this non-specific "revelation" by the FBI..exactly what steps did his administration take to stop it from happening...

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

"How is it possible we have a national security advisor coming out and saying we had no idea they could use planes as weapons when we had FBI records from 1991 stating that this is a possibility," said Kristen Breitweiser, one of four New Jersey widows who lobbied Congress and the president to appoint the commission.

from CBS news....

if i recall, He Who Shall Not Be Named was President for more than a few years after this non-specific "revelation" by the FBI..exactly what steps did his administration take to stop it from happening...

How are any of us supposed to have an answer to that?

 

[Moonbeam]

The Clinton Admins warnings to Bush on AlQuaeda were ignored. They don't do anything Clinton. We will do our won review. Had it happened in Japan the head of government would have killed himself in atonement. Bush started an illegal war with the wrong party. Look busy.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Clinton Admins warnings to Bush on AlQuaeda were ignored. They don't do anything Clinton. We will do our won review. Had it happened in Japan the head of government would have killed himself in atonement. Bush started an illegal war with the wrong party. Look busy.

Lay off the meds dude...

 

[daniel1113]

Of course 9/11 could have been prevented... then again, so could Pearl Harbor, Oklahoma City Bombing, and every other disaster in this country. Perhaps Bush should be held accountable for those incidents as well... or we could all stop pointing fingers and realize that Bin Laden, Al Queda, and the other anti-American terrorists are the ones responsible.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Hindsight is bloody wonderful isn't it?

Yeah i am sure the folks at the fbi feel pretty bad about not following up on those that only wanted to learn how to fly a plane and not land it.

It also sucks to think sudan could have given us bin laden a few years back...

 

[alchemize]

I'm quite comfortable that if Gore had been elected, it would have been prevented though

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: alchemize
I'm quite comfortable that if Gore had been elected, it would have been prevented though

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: alchemize
I'm quite comfortable that if Gore had been elected, it would have been prevented though

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Sorry I forget the

Some folks just don't understand that changing the US government is like trying to turn the titanic with a 3 sq ft rudder.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: alchemize
I'm quite comfortable that if Gore had been elected, it would have been prevented though

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Sorry I forget the

Some folks just don't understand that changing the US government is like trying to turn the titanic with a 3 sq ft rudder.

 

[alchemize]

An interesting quote:

"How is it possible we have a national security advisor coming out and saying we had no idea they could use planes as weapons when we had FBI records from 1991 stating that this is a possibility," said Kristen Breitweiser, one of four New Jersey widows who lobbied Congress and the president to appoint the commission.

Since 1991 we've known? Gee that was like...10 years before? Oh yah, Bush Sr. was president, he probably didn't pass it along to Clinton, so it fell through the cracks. It's Bush Sr's fault

Edit: and of course it was preventable.

Clinton could have prevented it. So could Bush. Neither one took terrorism seriously, because they'd never really had much success before. Nobody took terrorism seriously in the US before 9/11.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: alchemize
I'm quite comfortable that if Gore had been elected, it would have been prevented though

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Sorry I forget the

Some folks just don't understand that changing the US government is like trying to turn the titanic with a 3 sq ft rudder.

Hmmmm, so I guess we should give up trying to find out what went wrong and perhaps who was responsible? If the government could have prevented 9/11, but didn't, we shouldn't bother trying to determine where things went wrong so we can do it differently next time.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: alchemize
I'm quite comfortable that if Gore had been elected, it would have been prevented though

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Sorry I forget the

Some folks just don't understand that changing the US government is like trying to turn the titanic with a 3 sq ft rudder.

Hmmmm, so I guess we should give up trying to find out what went wrong and perhaps who was responsible? If the government could have prevented 9/11, but didn't, we shouldn't bother trying to determine where things went wrong so we can do it differently next time.

I absolutely think we should try and find out where the failures were. That wasn't the point of this article. The point of the article was trying to point it at the 9-month old administration which I think is silly. I also think it is silly to blame it on Clinton. Sure he could have done more, but so could have Bush.

The true failure was likely at the FBI and CIA. And even then, we just couldn't conceive something like this would ever work.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize
I absolutely think we should try and find out where the failures were. That wasn't the point of this article. The point of the article was trying to point it at the 9-month old administration which I think is silly. I also think it is silly to blame it on Clinton. Sure he could have done more, but so could have Bush.

The true failure was likely at the FBI and CIA. And even then, we just couldn't conceive something like this would ever work.

I don't know what's so silly about it. I mean, 9/11 happened during this administration's watch. There is a certain responsibility on their part. Certainly the intel communities share a burden in this too. And perhaps even the previous administration to some degree, but the point of the independent commission setup to investigate 9/11 is to determine where the failures were specifically. You're going to dismiss their findings now simply on the basis that you (and others here) don't like where they're pointing the finger?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Clinton Admins warnings to Bush on AlQuaeda were ignored.

Ummm....ok. If Clinton was so worried about them he should have take OBL when it was offered to him.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Clinton Admins warnings to Bush on AlQuaeda were ignored.

Ummm....ok. If Clinton was so worried about them he should have take OBL when it was offered to him.

And this is what, your concept of deep comprehension? Worry always equates to take out. I see.

 

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Clinton Admins warnings to Bush on AlQuaeda were ignored.

Ummm....ok. If Clinton was so worried about them he should have take OBL when it was offered to him.

And this is what, your concept of deep comprehension? Worry always equates to take out. I see.

This coming from someone who is extremely worried that Bush is going to be reelected.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The Clinton Admins warnings to Bush on AlQuaeda were ignored.

Ummm....ok. If Clinton was so worried about them he should have take OBL when it was offered to him.

And this is what, your concept of deep comprehension? Worry always equates to take out. I see.

This coming from someone who is extremely worried that Bush is going to be reelected.

And this is what, your concept of clearing your bung hole?

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: alchemize
I'm quite comfortable that if Gore had been elected, it would have been prevented though

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Sorry I forget the

Some folks just don't understand that changing the US government is like trying to turn the titanic with a 3 sq ft rudder.

Hmmmm, so I guess we should give up trying to find out what went wrong and perhaps who was responsible? If the government could have prevented 9/11, but didn't, we shouldn't bother trying to determine where things went wrong so we can do it differently next time.

AL QUEDA, BIN LADEN, AND OTHER ANTI-AMERICAN TERRORISTS ARE WHAT WENT WRONG AND ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE. Is this hard to understand?