Comments for my first build for video editing.

[themisfit610]

funny that their own hardware (M-Audio) doesn't work out of the box 🙂

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: themisfit610
funny that their own hardware (M-Audio) doesn't work out of the box 🙂

Sort of in their defense but not making excuses... they did buy M-Audio after it came out 😉

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: saneman

Originally posted by: gsellis

Saneman, don't miss this resource Avid Community. I go by the same name there too, but usually hang in the Liquid forum on occasion.

Thanks gsellis, I checked the Avid forum and looks like the Audigy 2 ZS is the only compatible audio card for Xpress Pro. Although, none are fully supported by Avid, the Audigy seems to work the best so far (or until Avid gives a list of approved audio cards)

Saneman

Sigh... It is good enough. I have one. But for higher-end stuff, it can introduce a little noise. Very little noise, but guys running good monitors say they can tell the difference. All I hear is WindTunnels anyway (Intel stock fans for Xeon are the loudest created).

 

[pkme2]

Looks like you're getting it together and nearing your ultimate build. I'm glad you're getting excellent feedback. Good building.

 

[saneman]

Thank you all! Being a first timer on AT and this being my first post, I'm very happy with the suggestions and advice y'all have given me. Thank you all once again. Hopefully my build will be as successful as this thread or otherwise I'll be bothering y'all again until I get it right. Thanks!

 

[VisionxOrb]

I dont know about yo guys but Im pretty fed up with avid. Seems like they cant write code worth a damn. Every release since 4.6 has been getting buggier and buggier. I liked liquid 7 but it doesnt work right with over 2 monitors and even with 2 its finiky. Xpress HD muili monitor support is great but it doesnt hardly work with anything other than the soundblaster card and on top of that doesnt support native inport of mpg,wmv,divx etc. Im gonna try the new premier pro and see how that is.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: VisionxOrb
I dont know about yo guys but Im pretty fed up with avid. Seems like they cant write code worth a damn. Every release since 4.6 has been getting buggier and buggier. I liked liquid 7 but it doesnt work right with over 2 monitors and even with 2 its finiky. Xpress HD muili monitor support is great but it doesnt hardly work with anything other than the soundblaster card and on top of that doesnt support native inport of mpg,wmv,divx etc. Im gonna try the new premier pro and see how that is.

Yep, Liquid is not well suited for more than 2 displays and a monitor using the Pro version. You going to go with the new Matrox card and PP? I think the PP render wait times will be longer, but if you throw new hardware at it, that might be a wash (now that they finally are multi-threaded - a dual dual might smoke!) Hey, and it integrates with After Effects for some strange reason (for those going huh, Adobe makes them both).

 

[VisionxOrb]

Matox? no... My computer has dual video cards to run three monitors. Actually I wouldnt mind if liquid can only use 2 but the problem is, if it doesnt like how your system is setup it defaults to one monitor and wont let you change it. If would stay open on 2 and let me use my 3rd for other stuff that would be fantastic but it wont and editing on one screen is a no go. By the way my system is a a C2D e6600 clocked to 3.6 and encoding on this thing just rips.

 

[Frangelina]

Personnaly....9/10. For video editing with the size of the files it produces, I prefer a small fast drive for booting eg. 15k-36gig. another fast one for producing but a little bit bigger eg. 15k-73gig. and then a super big one other than scsi to archive. The rest you wrote seems A1 to me.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: Frangelina
Personnaly....9/10. For video editing with the size of the files it produces, I prefer a small fast drive for booting eg. 15k-36gig. another fast one for producing but a little bit bigger eg. 15k-73gig. and then a super big one other than scsi to archive. The rest you wrote seems A1 to me.

The only problem with small drives is they are too small for projects. My current project 16 tapes with 5 9-10min segments*. Each tape creates a log of 12GB. So with a small drive, I have media management issues where I have to span drives. That is also why you want to have seperate drives for render and media. It can overwhelm a drive. My current render directory is at 20GB usage and I only have 6 of 17 segments done (multi-cam editing).

* Editors above the consumer ones like Studio and Movie use media management instead of just dropping files into a directory. When I 'log' media in, it is based on the reel (which is the tape) and the timecode. For example, I load a tape, create a reel name, and then start marking the in and out point of the segment I want. I just log what I want, it does not yet capture (or I could capture it then.) In this instance, I work backward through the tape marking the end first and then marking the beginning and saving it in the log. When I finally get to the start of the tape, I have my clips logged and they even have a picon of what the clip starts with. I then batch record the media and the editor will now copy the marked sections while I do something else. You have to be careful about broken timecodes on the same tape. Most systems, you just create a different reel and log that section. If you do not, remember that everything is timecode based and it will write over other clips.

Why do it that way because that is a problem! Not really. It means I can save my edits and tapes, but not have to save the files. I can save and restore a project without the media. I just need to load the correct tapes and have it batch capture the originals again. A reason most of us do not reuse tapes and why I do not like HDD cameras.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: VisionxOrb
Matox? no... My computer has dual video cards to run three monitors. Actually I wouldnt mind if liquid can only use 2 but the problem is, if it doesnt like how your system is setup it defaults to one monitor and wont let you change it. If would stay open on 2 and let me use my 3rd for other stuff that would be fantastic but it wont and editing on one screen is a no go. By the way my system is a a C2D e6600 clocked to 3.6 and encoding on this thing just rips.

Cool. And I was talking about the new RT-X2. But admission is $1995 (but comes with PP 😉 ). It does dual monitor and has a BOB for SD/HD Monitor.