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flashbacck

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I am considering getting it. Most of the reviews (ok two) seem to think it's pretty good, although the earlier posts here don't... :(

My system is a GF 3 ti 500 for all intents and purposes with 512 ram, but only a celeron 1000. The CPU is the bottleneck. It's better than the minimum and I am thinking single player would probably be ok, but I'm not sure...

check out metacritic. they try to compile reviews from a bunch of sources and give a rough overall score.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Download the impossible creatures demo... now thats a different kind of RTS

Tried it, thought it was very unique, but never got the actual game. I think it was because you can only have up to 4 creatures at once, but I could be wrong about that (and probably am).
 

dquan97

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Ok, I spent the past two days playing the Chinese campaign and the last one (level7) took about four-five hours to complete. Whew...finally finished it though. Pretty fun game!!!
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: dquan97
Ok, I spent the past two days playing the Chinese campaign and the last one (level7) took about four-five hours to complete. Whew...finally finished it though. Pretty fun game!!!

What difficulty?

I remember the Chinese last level was hard... I am playing on hard.
 

dquan97

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: dquan97
Ok, I spent the past two days playing the Chinese campaign and the last one (level7) took about four-five hours to complete. Whew...finally finished it though. Pretty fun game!!!

What difficulty?

I remember the Chinese last level was hard... I am playing on hard.

I'm playing on normal mode. Been playing on brutal level on skirmishes.
 

TallBill

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Apr 29, 2001
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man.. i think this game is great... we played it 4 player for a bit tonight.. lots of fun
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: TallBill
man.. i think this game is great... we played it 4 player for a bit tonight.. lots of fun

Yah I just got off of playing it for 5 hours with a bud.

Love this game!
 

BD2003

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Its not worth buying yet.

The single player is short, I beat each campaign in about 3 hours. As an rts it should be nearly twice as long. The missions are pretty fun though.

But the interface/AI in this game is TERRIBLE. I dunno, maybe I'm just spoiled by WC3 and newer games. For example:

You select a bunch of units, and there is no way of telling how much of each unit you have other than manually scanning the screen. Unlike in other games like AOM there are little portraits down at the bottom.

There are practically no formations whatsoever. Now I know you can use ctrl-F to supposedly set some form of formations, but as far as I can tell, it does nothing. If I set a fast car and a super slow (and I mean SLOW) tank together, the car will be on the other side of the map before the tank even gets started.

Say you have 20 tanks, and youre fighting in the city, and your tanks are weaving through the street. Your units are too retarded to pick decent targets on their own for the most part, so you have to manually click each one. So you try to get all your tanks to attack one unit, which is normally a good strategy. However, in this game, since there are no formations, your tanks will basically try to go into battle in single file. So when the first tank gets within range of the target, it stops and starts firing, and the rest of the tanks sit there blocked and start to act retarded because theyre not smart enough to go around and the first tank isnt smart enough to keep the line going. Never mind the fact that all your small fast units are long dead because they got to the enemy way before your tanks because theyre not smart enough to slow down.

Not to mention your harvestors stopping for no reason, you are unable to hold shift and click units to attack in sequence.

And the computer AI is just stupid. He doesnt try to wage successful attack on you, you will just get a slow stream of infantry and a tank or two or three against you. The infantry will walk directly into your gatling guns. The tanks sit there and get stupid. At the end of each match, you lost like 40 units to his 400. Its absurd. And the 40 units you did lose are likely your infantry, which can get run over with the greatest of ease by the computer who has immaculate control when running over your units. Try and do it to his, and they manage to dodge your every move.

And the final nail in the coffin is that online play is barely working at this point.

The problem is, is that it would be such an awesome game if it was not so retarded. Red alert 2 was smarter than this. Its ridiculous, and almost makes it not worth playing.

Nice gfx though. :D
 

datalink7

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I just finished a awesome online game.

It was 2 v 2, but my partner was trash. His base got overrun very early. The help I sent over did more damage to the attacking force than his defenses. He started another base behind mine, but it was basically 2 v 1 against me.

I ended up winning :D They sent wave after wave against me, and I barely held on. I finally managed to get up a super weapon (particle beam) and laid wreck to some of their structures. Since They thought they were just going to over run me, they didn't focus on building superweapons at all. This killed them in the end because they didn't manage to get past my defenses, so I just destroyed them with air units and particle beams.

I'm now 2-1 in online play, and the game I lost my partner got disconnected in the beginning so it was 2 v 1 from the start :)
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: LH
Well EA did close out Westwood.... They probably told them to hurry and finish it up so they could close and release it. May EA get what it deserves.

The closing of Westwood had ZERO effect on Generals. C&C Generals was NOT done by Westwood. It was done by EA Irvine, which they didnt close or lay off people from, the just combined the remaing Westwood staff, EA Irvine and I think the Battlefeild 1942 development team to form EA LA. Yes they did layoff 50 people from Westwood, and to the others theyd have to relocate, but like I said Westwood wasnt doing Generals. Westwood has just been a brand name for the past 3 years. EAs were calling the shots there for along time.

FYI EA Irvine, used to be called Westwood Irvine, I believe they were the developers of Nox, and Westwood took them on board. Later EA seperated the two and EA Irvine did RA2, the expansions and started work on Generals. Westwood was still going to be allowed to do C&C3.

So I guess this means C&C 3 is no longer going to be dveloped?
 

Phuz

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Heck, I didn't even play War3 SP all the way through.. I'm just looking at the game for its Multiplayer... providing my modem can handle it... :p
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: Phuz
Heck, I didn't even play War3 SP all the way through.. I'm just looking at the game for its Multiplayer... providing my modem can handle it... :p

I get decent speeds with my Cable connection. Better than I expected actually. Some lag but nothing that detracts from playing.

Just finished yet another game. I am 4-1 online now :)