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miketheidiot

Lifer
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Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
In response to this, the British government passed the Tea Act, which allowed the East India Company to sell tea to the colonies directly and without "payment of any customs or duties whatsoever" in Britain, instead paying the much lower American duty. This tax break allowed the East India Company to sell tea for half the old price and cheaper than the price of tea in England, enabling them to undercut the prices offered by the colonial merchants and smugglers granting them a virtual monopoly.

the boston tea party occurred because the british got rid of the tax.

lol at this thread and the idiots marching around.
This is truly a lame attempt at deflection.

someone is butthurt

i just thought it was really ironic.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Fern
Unsurprisingly, when the left holds silly protests they are hartily defended here. Now the same crowd derides this.


Fern

wow what p&n do you post on? :confused:

Any that particularly come to mind?
 

miketheidiot

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Fern
Unsurprisingly, when the left holds silly protests they are hartily defended here. Now the same crowd derides this.


Fern

wow what p&n do you post on? :confused:

Any that particularly come to mind?

i dunno. I remember the old anti-war protests being colossal troll/hate fests
 

ayabe

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So protesting the Iraq war was "silly"(though nearly everyone agrees that it was a huge mistake) but this is high minded democracy in action.....

Gotcha.
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
They probably resemble some of those McCain Rallys back last fall like this one Text

What does that link have to do with the topic? Oh wait... I know... nothing... just another troll by RedDawn

So you think they aren't anything like those rallys?

Lets see. One is a campaign rally where some radical leftist pieced together some footage to suggest McCain supporters were racist(which is why you chose that video). So what is racist about a tea party? What does it have to do with McCain?

That's right- absolutely nothing - just an attempt at duhverting the thread by someone who should know better.
LOL @ being lectured by the "Great Duhverter" himself:laugh:

True dat!

LOL
 

boomerang

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Jun 19, 2000
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
someone is butthurt
Not in the slightest. Just trying to put the kibosh on the usual Modus Operandi here. That being to deflect a post in a different direction.

 

quest55720

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Originally posted by: alien42
conservatives protesting the govt saving their asses, lol

Yep putting in a provision into the porkulus to let AIG get those bonuses really saved our asses. A 4 trillion dollar budget that will lead to hyper inflation will really save our asses. I won't even getting into the housing bail out crap and giving people a 1000 dollars a year to pay their fucking mortgage.

Nope people have had enough with this corrupt government wasting money.
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: alien42
conservatives protesting the govt saving their asses, lol

Yep putting in a provision into the porkulus to let AIG get those bonuses really saved our asses. A 4 trillion dollar budget that will lead to hyper inflation will really save our asses. I won't even getting into the housing bail out crap and giving people a 1000 dollars a year to pay their fucking mortgage.

Nope people have had enough with this corrupt government wasting money.

where was your outrage when we wasted billions in Iraq and did not even include it in the budget?
 

Fern

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Sep 30, 2003
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Fern, are you saying this is a silly protest?

I think it's great that people are standing up for what they believe in. I find two things funny about it though, first that they are calling them 'tea parties' when the Boston Tea Party was actually protesting a removal of taxes, and secondly, the paranoid screeching about made up media bias is ridiculous as usual.

Don't know if it's silly or not. It will have been for naught unless they get enough people and exposure. But the bailouts are definately unpopular among a wide segment of voters.

If they influence the Obama admin aginst bailouts it won't be silly at all. That would be some serious policy influence.

I see your about about the Bostson RTea Party. But I've always understood it was about a tax protest. I never heard the story appearing in thsi thread that it was in response to a reduction in tax and carried out by smugglers losing profit over the reduction.

Claims of some MSM silence are not entirely without merit.

I also don't understand the (implied) assumption that these are only Repubs protesting. I thought the Dems were fiscal conservatives now and therefor expect them to be protesting too.

Fern
 
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Originally posted by: quest55720
I can only hope these spread and can help stop Obama's 4 trillion dollar budget. It is about time people get pissed off by the wasteful spending of this corrupt government.

Too bad fiscal conservatives and people against wasteful government spending have taken a back seat over the last 10 or so years...

Everyone likes to bitch about this stuff here, but how many of you guys are writing to your representatives and senators to express your wishes? (And writing more than just "stop spending so much money").
 

boomerang

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Jun 19, 2000
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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Fern, are you saying this is a silly protest?

I think it's great that people are standing up for what they believe in. I find two things funny about it though, first that they are calling them 'tea parties' when the Boston Tea Party was actually protesting a removal of taxes, and secondly, the paranoid screeching about made up media bias is ridiculous as usual.

Don't know if it's silly or not. It will have been for naught unless they get enough people and exposure. But the bailouts are definately unpopular among a wide segment of voters.

If they influence the Obama admin aginst bailouts it won't be silly at all. That would be some serious policy influence.

I see your about about the Bostson RTea Party. But I've always understood it was about a tax protest. I never heard the story appearing in thsi thread that it was in response to a reduction in tax and carried out by smugglers losing profit over the reduction.

Claims of some MSM silence are not entirely without merit.

I also don't understand the (implied) assumption that these are only Repubs protesting. I thought the Dems were fiscal conservatives now and therefor expect them to be protesting too.

Fern
I'd like to see these protests take hold and grow with a slightly different objective. I'd like all of those in Washington, regardless of their party affiliation, to make their major consideration the people of the United States. Not themselves, not their biggest campaign contributor, not the lobbyist with the biggest payout, not the party, not a big corporation, us. There's little to no accountability and integrity in Washington and hasn't been for many decades.

If normal, everyday people start demonstrating in great enough numbers, the pressure will be on. IMO
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Fern, are you saying this is a silly protest?

I think it's great that people are standing up for what they believe in. I find two things funny about it though, first that they are calling them 'tea parties' when the Boston Tea Party was actually protesting a removal of taxes, and secondly, the paranoid screeching about made up media bias is ridiculous as usual.

Don't know if it's silly or not. It will have been for naught unless they get enough people and exposure. But the bailouts are definately unpopular among a wide segment of voters.

If they influence the Obama admin aginst bailouts it won't be silly at all. That would be some serious policy influence.

I see your about about the Bostson RTea Party. But I've always understood it was about a tax protest. I never heard the story appearing in thsi thread that it was in response to a reduction in tax and carried out by smugglers losing profit over the reduction.

Claims of some MSM silence are not entirely without merit.

I also don't understand the (implied) assumption that these are only Repubs protesting. I thought the Dems were fiscal conservatives now and therefor expect them to be protesting too.

Fern

Since when are the Democrats fiscal conservatives?

As for the claims of MSM silence, they appear completely without merit to me, but I'm not expecting to change any minds on this, as a belief in media bias is a primary component of modern conservatism. (sorry, but it is)
 

Fern

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OK, I should have 'fiscally responsible' (as in deficit hawks, PAYGO etc)

Fern
 

miketheidiot

Lifer
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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: alien42
conservatives protesting the govt saving their asses, lol

Yep putting in a provision into the porkulus to let AIG get those bonuses really saved our asses. A 4 trillion dollar budget that will lead to hyper inflation will really save our asses. I won't even getting into the housing bail out crap and giving people a 1000 dollars a year to pay their fucking mortgage.

Nope people have had enough with this corrupt government wasting money.

oh brilliant sage of politics, economics, and natual philosophy, please justify the bolded using facts, evidence and logic
 

Andrew1990

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Sweet, now time to see if there will be one in chicago. Time to make my signs!

*Looks at State Income Tax bill for $40

This is too MUCH!!!



Anyways, maybe I can sneak in and make one of these protest violent and therefore start a new civil war. LOL
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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I am sure many ATPN members are not aware of this, but "Boston tea parties" have been thrown all over the USA during the past couple of weeks, drawing thousands of people to protest the federal government's out of control spending.

Of course, the media dare not show these parties. The world is almost perfect now that Obama is President.

So, has anyone joined one of these protests lately?

Jack Cafferty / CNN decided to give them some press.
 

Steeplerot

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Mar 29, 2004
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Well, if it works just half as well as the Iraqi War protests we are saved!

Actually this will get coverage, unlike the war ones. This is another corporate sponsored game.

So much for Grass-roots spontaneous protest. Does anyone else see the irony in a Teaparty" sponsored by corporations?

/facepalm

Never underestimate the stupidity of old angry white dudes and their outrage over tax monies.


Link
As described by Ames and Levine, Santelli's call for a "tea party" in Chicago next summer was quickly picked up by a website called ChicagoTeaParty.com and spread from there to the Drudge Report. However, the ChicagoTeaParty.com domain is not new. It was registered last summer by the producer of a right-wing radio show in Chicago and, the writers allege, is one of several tied to the anti-tax group FreedomWorks, which is among the sponsors of the current protests.

FreedomWorks is the latest incarnation of an organization formerly known as Citizens for a Sound Economy, which was founded in 1984 "to anonymously leverage corporate contributions into debates on public policy." CSE had close ties to Koch Industries and became one of the major recipients of grant money from conservative foundations and major corporations such as Exxon, Philip Morris, and General Motors.

In 2003, CSE's affiliate, the Citizens for a Strong Economy Foundation, split off and renamed itself Americans for Prosperity. (That group is also a sponsor of the current protests.) CSE itself merged the following year with Empower America -- another fake grassroots group created by Republican Party insiders to promote conservative candidates -- and formed FreedomWorks.