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Chiropteran

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Aren't they pronounced the same?

What the hell is the point of having a unique spelling for the female variation if it's pronounced the exact same?
 
sandorski

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com ee dee enn & com ee dee ann

They are very close, but not the same. I just use comedian, like I just use Actor for both. Making the distinction seems rather silly these days, at least to me.
 
ControlD

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Eh, I'm OK with it because in general I know one is going to be funny (comedian) and one is not (comedienne). At least in regards to stand-up comedy.
 
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ControlD said:
Eh, I'm OK with it because in general I know one is going to be funny (comedian) and one is not (comedienne). At least in regards to stand-up comedy.
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yep. One is men-bashing and the other one is about comedy.
 
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Chiropteran

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sandorski said:
com ee dee enn & com ee dee ann

They are very close, but not the same. I just use comedian, like I just use Actor for both. Making the distinction seems rather silly these days, at least to me.
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So they are pronounced different like can and can.
 
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Comedienne is the feminine in french, is there such a thing in English? Seems to me only someone pretentious (I saw Kathy Griffin mentioned) would use that.

The pronunciation for most french speakers would be:
Comedienne (which should be comédienne) - com-eh-dee-enn
Comedian -Com-eee-dee-enn
 
rga

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Can't we all just agree that a person who tells jokes on stage is a comidian. Whether one thinks one is funny or not just comes down to personal taste.
 
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rga said:
Can't we all just agree that a person who tells jokes on stage is a comidian. Whether one thinks one is funny or not just comes down to personal taste.
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No, that's not even a word. :p

But I'd like to see a man do a whole routine that a woman did with the same material and mannerisms and see the difference in audience approval rating. I've never seen a female comedian that I've found funny. So I'd be genuinely curious if it's really just the fact that it's a woman delivering the jokes or if what they're saying is actually just not funny to me (personal taste).
 
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BurnItDwn

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I am going to be 40 in under 5 years. I am unfamiliar with this word "comedienne"
 
MongGrel

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BurnItDwn said:
I am going to be 40 in under 5 years. I am unfamiliar with this word "comedienne"
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So, you're 35, not sure how that matters anyway.

No they are not pronounced the same, the silly things that get argued about here.

I general usage most people use comedian for both in the US at any rate.
 
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MrPickins

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Some of the replies in this thread make me facepalm...

There are a lot of funny women comedians out there, and plenty that don't bash men (or bash women just as much).
 
Red Squirrel

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comedienne = female
comedien = male

But I think in English it's just comedien as English does not have male/female difference for words.
 
ControlD

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MrPickins said:
Some of the replies in this thread make me facepalm...

There are a lot of funny women comedians out there, and plenty that don't bash men (or bash women just as much).
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I agree, There are plenty of funny female comedians (Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, etc.). I just have never seen a funny one that refers to herself as a comedienne, which I think was the point some of us were making.

When I hear the term comedienne I think Kathy Griffin, Paula Poundstone, Margaret Cho, etc. In other words, not funny.
 
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