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MagickMan

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Data isn't a limited resource, this is just another way to fleece the ignorant.
 

SheHateMe

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Glad I have FiOS in my area. Left Comcast and never looked back. Every once and a while a Comcast rep comes by the house or calls trying to get us back over. They are such a joke.
 

Brian Stirling

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Nobody said that peak throughout and data use are totally unrelated, just that measuring total data use is a bad way of accounting for it.

Here's the deal ... pricing based on connection speed doesn't work for all the reasons I've listed. But, the folks who eat the most data are the ones hammering the network the most. That is, there is a direct relationship between total data use and the impact on the network.

So, if connection speed isn't the basis for pricing internet service what would you suggest?


Brian
 

fskimospy

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Here's the deal ... pricing based on connection speed doesn't work for all the reasons I've listed. But, the folks who eat the most data are the ones hammering the network the most. That is, there is a direct relationship between total data use and the impact on the network.

So, if connection speed isn't the basis for pricing internet service what would you suggest?


Brian

Connection speed DOES work, and amount of data consumed doesn't for all the reasons I've listed. I seriously don't know how you can continue to say that amount of data consumed is a useful metric after we've shown you repeatedly that it isn't. Do you at least accept now that off peak data is much much less expensive than peak data for the ISP?

Connection speed is the best way to provision a limited resource because it effectively allows people to bid for access based on how important it is to them.

Finally, you know that even the ISPs themselves have described this as a business move, not a technology one, right?
 

Subyman

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Why not have people pay for speed and priority instead?

The limited resource we are primarily trying to conserve is bandwidth during peak times. So why not structure your pricing and billing around that instead of some amount of data usage that may or may not be done during the times that really matter?

Little late to respond, just saw this. I don't think priority charges could be done under net neutrality. Data rates could fluctuate with congestion.
 
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dmcowen674

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If nobody is using the internet in the middle of the night they can put the systems into standby mode.They're doing this with the digital cable TV signals. The only time a lot of the channels are put into the cable is when a cable box or cable card requests them. They may not be saving as much as they would like to because of evening shift workers who turn their TVs and computers on at midnight. Therefore it may cost more to use the internet at 1am because they're having to keep the system powered up for a lower volume of users.

You and a bunch of your ilk are talking out of your ass.

Network Routers don't get shut off because you went to sleep. :rolleyes: