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Colo. lawmakers suggest carrying pens rather than carrying a gun

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umbrella39 said:
Grow up and move on with your life. WTF cares what these people think as if pens will be the order of the day. Enough fucking gun threads already. Your fear and hatred will be your demise.
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I am not the one with the fear of the big scarry 15 round magazine or the big scarry pistol grip on a gun.
 
umbrella39 said:
Grow up and move on with your life. WTF cares what these people think as if pens will be the order of the day. Enough fucking gun threads already. Your fear and hatred will be your demise.
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Cease and desist any further attempts to violate the second amendment. Then we'll "grow up and move on" with our "fear and hatred".
 
I'll be onboard with this the day I see the Secret Service protecting Obama with a pen. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.
 
People like these, and well most of you are whats wrong with our country. Take make a general stand against a certain side is stupid. How about this we get these nut jobs out of office, and refuse to put another nut job in even though he's on our "side".

Both sides have nut jobs, and will probably close 90% of the pricks are. Sooner the people under stand that neither side is for them, and act on it the better off we'll be.
 
sourn said:
People like these, and well most of you are whats wrong with our country. Take make a general stand against a certain side is stupid. How about this we get these nut jobs out of office, and refuse to put another nut job in even though he's on our "side".

Both sides have nut jobs, and will probably close 90% of the pricks are. Sooner the people under stand that neither side is for them, and act on it the better off we'll be.
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won't happen. far to many are willing to fuck over the nation to put there party in office.
 
waggy said:
won't happen. far to many are willing to fuck over the nation to put there party in office.
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Oh it'll happen. When our unemployment rate is 80% and those people finally start running for office and voting.

A democracy is based on people running the government, and right now the driver has taken his/her hands off the wheel while pushing the accelerator to the floor.
 
If the bombs that Harris and Klebold set at Columbine had gone off they would have killed most of the people in the building and the perps would have been in the parking lot picking off the survivors. They only went inside shooting because their bombs failed. They may have been trying to kill more than died at Jonesboro Arkansas.
 
gun nuts compare guns to cars and anything else metal in ridiculous comparisons that make no sense, to comparing the presidents kids having security to all kids. they just hate it when somebody else does.
 
PixelSquish said:
gun nuts compare guns to cars and anything else metal in ridiculous comparisons that make no sense, to comparing the presidents kids having security to all kids. they just hate it when somebody else does.
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Seriously? I can acknowledge the flaws in the guns/cars analogy, but I'm pretty sure suggesting one bring a ballpoint pen to a gunfight is far worse.

Fact is most gun control advocates are woefully ignorant about guns, tactics, and in many cases common sense. And it shows. When they arrogantly double down on their ignorance, it shows even more.
 
Pen? No, if I don't have a gun for what ever reason (let's assume twilight zone) , next choice is my Sog.
 
Article was a typo.... he meant pen knife.

Most likely a deliberate omission on the writer's behalf to make the lawmakers look batshit crazy.

The fact of the matter is that guns are a self-defense relic that signifies back when self-defense meant SELF-defense. We have evolved past that and must look at self-defense in terms of what we are allowing in terms of the whole population.

To explain further - when one person has a gun and is attacked, he possesses the ultimate self-defense tool, that's great, for that single person. Now let's extend that rule to the whole, when EVERYBODY has a gun for self-defense and guns are widely available, then SELF-defense just made the world a whole lot less safe and actually puts the POPULATION in greater danger. Laws need to be focused on what is best for the population that they control, not on what is best for the individual.

So by abandoning the notion that guns are good for self-defense and instead take a team approach, you will quickly see that pen knifes, judo, and buddy systems offer greater protection as a whole, because it will lower the amount of guns in the society, and the chances that they fall into the wrong hands and hurt a member of the POPULATION.

So as a member of society, and caring more about your neighbor than yourself, put down your guns and take up pen knives, or invite your buddy to a self-defense pact, ultimately we will be lowering violent crime, and become a less selfish society.
 
I'm getting one of these. I haven't figure out where to put the high cap mag yet.

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Ballpoint pens can be used to defend yourselves.

Well...so can metal alarm clocks. Should we all carry large metal alarm clocks because they aren't guns?
 
momeNt said:
Article was a typo.... he meant pen knife.

Most likely a deliberate omission on the writer's behalf to make the lawmakers look batshit crazy.

The fact of the matter is that guns are a self-defense relic that signifies back when self-defense meant SELF-defense. We have evolved past that and must look at self-defense in terms of what we are allowing in terms of the whole population.

To explain further - when one person has a gun and is attacked, he possesses the ultimate self-defense tool, that's great, for that single person. Now let's extend that rule to the whole, when EVERYBODY has a gun for self-defense and guns are widely available, then SELF-defense just made the world a whole lot less safe and actually puts the POPULATION in greater danger. Laws need to be focused on what is best for the population that they control, not on what is best for the individual.

So by abandoning the notion that guns are good for self-defense and instead take a team approach, you will quickly see that pen knifes, judo, and buddy systems offer greater protection as a whole, because it will lower the amount of guns in the society, and the chances that they fall into the wrong hands and hurt a member of the POPULATION.

So as a member of society, and caring more about your neighbor than yourself, put down your guns and take up pen knives, or invite your buddy to a self-defense pact, ultimately we will be lowering violent crime, and become a less selfish society.
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At least where I live the only people who can legally own/carry guns are people who have not committed crimes, are in good legal standing, etc. But, the "bad guys" e.g. criminals, will ALWAYS be able to get guns. If you take away the right of upstanding citizens to carry guns (note that a massive chunk of the US' population is not eligible to carry a gun), you will have effectively empowered criminals to do whatever they wish, without fear of retribution from anyone save the police.

That's not a good thing. Look at London's crime troubles, or Washington, D.C.

EDIT: Incidentally, since I'm not old enough to carry a firearm, I do indeed carry a "penknife". I'm a martial artist, I've taken self defense courses, taught others, I'm in good physical shape, etc. But none of that can stop a bullet. Only a fool would suggest you run up and try to stop someone with a loaded firearm. You'll die. The only thing that can stop a maniac with a firearm, effectively, and quickly, is a police officer or noble citizen who also has a firearm.
 
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