Colo. candidate slams 'birthers' on tape

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upsho...tacks-tea-party-base-calls-birthers-dumbasses

U.S. Senate candidate Ken Buck of Colorado has had another bumpy run through the news cycle, after a Democratic video tracker caught Buck lamenting the visibility of the "birther" contingent in the state tea party movement. Birthers — people who believe that President Obama has concealed evidence that he is not, in fact, a U.S. citizen — are indeed vocal tea party supporters in Colorado. The problem for Buck, however, is that they also form part of his own voter base.

"Will you tell those dumb----- at the tea party to stop asking questions about birth certificates while I'm on the camera?" the Republican said at a campaign event in June. "God, what am I supposed to do?" The exchange was secretly taped, according to the Denver Post and local NBC affiliate 9NEWS. -- theres more...


Fortunately for the news mwedia this guy speaks his mind...to his detriment !!

Everybody knows that in order to even run for POTUS you need to file the proper papaerwork, which is then scrutinized and there are massive background checks......

After all is said and done these birthers need to get a ,life -- Sheese!!
 
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Craig234

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Sounds like he wants the votes of the birthers, but without the cost of the voters who will be against him if he agrees with them publically. Typical principled Republican.

A bit like the Nixon 'southern strategy' to use race enough to get the racist vote, not not enough - speaking in 'codes' or what's now called 'dog whistle politics' - not to offend.

That's the sad state of some races - take position A and lose, take position B and lose, but use 'code phrases' and such to get both and win.

Bush did the same thing with the religious right, getting them with nudge nudge wink wink things like scripture in speeches others didn't notice, but some restraint too.
 

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Everybody knows that in order to even run for POTUS you need to file the proper papaerwork, which is then scrutinized and there are massive background checks for security reasons.

The only form is one from the FEC where the candidate signs it him/herself.

No, it's not scrutinized.

No, the person elected President does not have to undergo background checks. They are elected and that's that.

Can you imagine if someone wins the vote but then some gov org says they can't be POTUS because they can't pass a background check? That's incredibly absurd.

Fern
 
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Mursilis

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Sounds like he wants the votes of the birthers, but without the cost of the voters who will be against him if he agrees with them publically. Typical principled Republican.

Ugh, what a partisan troll you are! Do you think Obama didn't want the votes of dependent leeches who had zero initiative and just wanted the gov't to give them free things? Every politician wants votes, even from the less-educated parts of the electorate (the majority, really) and will say all sorts of things to get them. This is true for both parties.
 

BoberFett

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Mursilis, just look who you're talking to. If you're not careful, he'll call you an idiot and ignore you.
 

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Ugh, what a partisan troll you are! Do you think Obama didn't want the votes of dependent leeches who had zero initiative and just wanted the gov't to give them free things? Every politician wants votes, even from the less-educated parts of the electorate (the majority, really) and will say all sorts of things to get them. This is true for both parties.

Get off Obama's back. Like all of the rest of the Democrats, he's solely in politics to serve a selfless benevolent agenda.

But Bush!

Now Craigbot doesn't have to answer.
 

cubby1223

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Sounds like he wants the votes of the birthers, but without the cost of the voters who will be against him if he agrees with them publically.

Same with the progressives wanting the votes of the extreme left without publicly supporting their ideas, as well as votes from whatever other voting block they think they can capture.

That's what politicians do, and all of your starry-eyed visions of perfect humanity-loving progressives in charge, will never happen. So get over yourself with your preaching that all we need to do is vote more progressives into offices.
 

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The only form is one from the FEC where the candidate signs it him/herself.

No, it's not scrutinized.

No, the person elected President does not have to undergo background checks. They are elected and that's that.

Can you imagine if someone wins the vote but then some gov org says they can't be POTUS because they can't pass a background check? That's incredibly absurd.

Fern

Any candidate of either of the two major parties who is running for POTUS is relentlessly scrutinized and vetted by the opposing campaign, the opposing political party, and the entire vast news media (with biases all over the map.) You seriously think a POTUS doesn't receive the equivalent of a tenfold standard "background check"? Get real.

- wolf
 

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Any candidate of either of the two major parties who is running for POTUS is relentlessly scrutinized and vetted by the opposing campaign, the opposing political party, and the entire vast news media (with biases all over the map.) You seriously think a POTUS doesn't receive the equivalent of a tenfold standard "background check"? Get real.

- wolf

And how did the whole question of Obama's birthplace arise?

Yes, by the very scrutiny you mention. However, they don't carry the force of law and so can't actually resolve anything. The MSM, political parties, other candidates etc cannot request and obtain that type of information (in this case a copy of the actual birth certificate). Therefore, they do not rise to level the OP claims.

Fern
 

Craig234

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Same with the progressives wanting the votes of the extreme left without publicly supporting their ideas, as well as votes from whatever other voting block they think they can capture.

That's what politicians do, and all of your starry-eyed visions of perfect humanity-loving progressives in charge, will never happen. So get over yourself with your preaching that all we need to do is vote more progressives into offices.

Of course the left isn't immune to this, but I see it a lot more often and egregiously from the right.

If you look at Obama's 2008 campaign, you will find issue after issue that he came out to the right of where the liberal base wanted him to be.

There are some he did fall short on after the election - just as, for example, Jimmy Carter reversed his position on marijuana legalization - but they were relatively few.
 
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Jhhnn

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Even a blind squirrel finds a few acorns, and that pretty much sums up Buck calling down the birthers. They're whacked out.

I think your assertions are way off base, Fern, wrt nobody checking the eligibility of a potus candidate long before the election. There may be no formal requirements beyond what you offered, but I rather suspect that the FBI, CIA, NSA and any other security agency with an acronym checks out the candidates rather thoroughly... particularly wrt Obama's candidacy and the repubs in the Whitehouse. They'd much rather have faced Clinton, given the years of effort they'd applied towards Hillary Hate and their general sense of paranoia and persecution. If the birthers were onto anything meaningful, it would have come out before the election- Rush, Hannity, OReilly and Beck, among others, would have been screaming it from the rooftops...

Rightie fringewhacks are big on proof, except when it comes to something they already believe, in which case none is required.
 

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Even a blind squirrel finds a few acorns, and that pretty much sums up Buck calling down the birthers. They're whacked out.
I think your assertions are way off base, Fern, wrt nobody checking the eligibility of a potus candidate long before the election. There may be no formal requirements beyond what you offered, but I rather suspect that the FBI, CIA, NSA and any other security agency with an acronym checks out the candidates rather thoroughly... particularly wrt Obama's candidacy and the repubs in the Whitehouse. They'd much rather have faced Clinton, given the years of effort they'd applied towards Hillary Hate and their general sense of paranoia and persecution. If the birthers were onto anything meaningful, it would have come out before the election- Rush, Hannity, OReilly and Beck, among others, would have been screaming it from the rooftops...
Rightie fringewhacks are big on proof, except when it comes to something they already believe, in which case none is required.
Never mind the Republicans; if there was any chance that Barack Obama was not a native-born citizen, what are the odds that the Clinton campaign would have missed it?
 

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Conservatives really need to let this birth certificate issue die. They look like idiots when this is brought up.
 

IGBT

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aah. the end result of not being forth coming and telling the truth. your obama's lie needs to be serviced.
 

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I think the birthers need to band together and litmus test every single conservative and make them take a stand. Only by banding together will you get your way. While your at it make sure you publish every single name with a picture and the state/district that they govern in so their constituents know how they stand on such an important issue...
 

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If we could just get a lot more GOP saying it, maybe we can get them to go away.
Perhaps this can be the new wedge issue: who thinks birthers are biggest fuckwits?
 

Jhhnn

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Conservatives really need to let this birth certificate issue die. They look like idiots when this is brought up.

Sometimes things are just as they appear to be, and this is one of them.

Righties' ideas and governance failed to deliver. Failed. Let me say that one more time for emphasis- Failed! And birthers engage in the most twisted form of logic for their losses at the polls- that they were somehow cheated because Obama is really a Furriner... as if that makes any sense at all.

Here's a news flash for y'all- Hillary probably would have whupped your sorry butts just the same, because you deserved it.